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Postby Sebtopiaris » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:55 pm

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Sebtopiaris wrote:Yeeeeeees! Reddit must come to NSG.

oh god no please no please god

It's not bad if you sit back and watch.
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Postby Esceen » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:56 pm

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Esceen wrote:Yes I agree. /r/atheism is a beacon of intellectual discussion that we couldn't possibly abandon.

The entirety of reddit is worth saving imo. That place is the front page of the internet, after all.

What will be the front page of the internet after Reddit? Google? HAH!

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Postby Luziyca » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:56 pm

Sebtopiaris wrote:
Esceen wrote:Yes I agree. /r/atheism is a beacon of intellectual discussion that we couldn't possibly abandon.

The entirety of reddit is worth saving imo. That place is the front page of the internet, after all.

No, the front page of the internet is Google.
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Postby Zanera » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:56 pm

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I am pretty sure the Mods are efficient at closing down such threads after describing in formal detail what their errors were.

Yes, but spamtrums can be used as a fun way to describe them. Like the DOS user that enables Reppy to use the mod picture that has her jump up and down.


I have never seen the picture.

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Postby Benuty » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:57 pm

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Benuty wrote:Because of the fair actually decent subreddits for civil debate, and learning are being tossed asunder in a pyre?

Besides /r/AskHistorians is simply too massive to archive for future generations to look upon a once glorious civilization.

Yes I agree. /r/atheism is a beacon of intellectual discussion that we couldn't possibly abandon.

Actually /r/TrueAtheism doesn't usually contain the historically/religiously terrifying generalizations often displayed by people for all to see in the subreddits of /r/badhistory, /r/badreligion, and /r/badphilosophy. I mean sure every now, and then there is a slip up, but it isn't to the level of /r/atheism (which often delves into moments of downright self parody).
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Postby Thanatttynia » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:58 pm

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Voat's been overloaded since FPH. It's not a suitable replacement, because of this and because it introduces barely any new ideas. It will fall prey to exactly the same problems as Reddit.

Why did people even go to Voat in the first place?

Seems like kind of a random site to choose as Reddit 2. I mean, at least 8chan is functional.


It's just been set up, you can participate there already (or, when the servers are working) and it seems familiar because it is literally smaller reddit with a design change.
8chan is completely different and Redditors probably don't want to make that much of a change.
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Postby Sebtopiaris » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:58 pm

Esceen wrote:
Sebtopiaris wrote:The entirety of reddit is worth saving imo. That place is the front page of the internet, after all.

What will be the front page of the internet after Reddit? Google? HAH!

Google if the front door of the internet, silly.
It'd wind up being some shitty meme website like 9gag, or maybe even 4chan.
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Postby Gauthier » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:59 pm

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New Grestin wrote:Why did people even go to Voat in the first place?

Seems like kind of a random site to choose as Reddit 2. I mean, at least 8chan is functional.


It's just been set up, you can participate there already (or, when the servers are working) and it seems familiar because it is literally smaller reddit with a design change.
8chan is completely different and Redditors probably don't want to make that much of a change.


It's pretty much an internet refugee flight.
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Postby Esceen » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:59 pm

Benuty wrote:
Esceen wrote:Yes I agree. /r/atheism is a beacon of intellectual discussion that we couldn't possibly abandon.

Actually /r/TrueAtheism doesn't usually contain the historically/religiously terrifying generalizations often displayed by people for all to see in the subreddits of /r/badhistory, /r/badreligion, and /r/badphilosophy. I mean sure every now, and then there is a slip up, but it isn't to the level of /r/atheism (which often delves into moments of downright self parody).

The reason /r/Atheism is so bad honestly is because it was a default sub

Imagine if NS was in a state of constant summer and you have a default sub

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Postby Esceen » Fri Jul 03, 2015 9:01 pm

Thanatttynia wrote:
New Grestin wrote:Why did people even go to Voat in the first place?

Seems like kind of a random site to choose as Reddit 2. I mean, at least 8chan is functional.


It's just been set up, you can participate there already (or, when the servers are working) and it seems familiar because it is literally smaller reddit with a design change.
8chan is completely different and Redditors probably don't want to make that much of a change.

8chan was 4chans response, not reddit's response. Reddit's response was voat, a carbon copy of reddit

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Postby Thanatttynia » Fri Jul 03, 2015 9:01 pm

Alyakia wrote:
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I have no idea, sorry. I think it's that one. I come and go in drifts and waves every few months or so. This time I'm trying to stay. If we are thinking about the same thing, it's probably fair to call it minor in the sense that this Reddit debacle is 'major'.
What were the two causes, incidentally? Was one something about the mods looking into telegrams? If so, that's the very same.


im going to spoiler this because i feel weird talking about it and bringing it up now

the first was mods going through moderation candidates TGs with a fine comb without telling them before they even know it happened or that they are candidates, which is yeah probably the same thing we're thinking of. i can't remember how it ended though. the second was discontent with the mishandling of a report about a poster pretty much doing everything short of posting "i rape children" to let people know that if he had not already done so he would very much like to go to thailand where their laws are not bound by petty western morality. it all got mostly sorted out in the end but for a while it was understandably a source of intermittent problems. but i don't want to end up sparking it off again.


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Thanatttynia wrote:
It's just been set up, you can participate there already (or, when the servers are working) and it seems familiar because it is literally smaller reddit with a design change.
8chan is completely different and Redditors probably don't want to make that much of a change.


It's pretty much an internet refugee flight.


You hit the nail on the head there, though I don't really know what sort of persecution they think they're fleeing from.
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Postby Sebtopiaris » Fri Jul 03, 2015 9:01 pm

Esceen wrote:
Benuty wrote:Actually /r/TrueAtheism doesn't usually contain the historically/religiously terrifying generalizations often displayed by people for all to see in the subreddits of /r/badhistory, /r/badreligion, and /r/badphilosophy. I mean sure every now, and then there is a slip up, but it isn't to the level of /r/atheism (which often delves into moments of downright self parody).

The reason /r/Atheism is so bad honestly is because it was a default sub

Imagine if NS was in a state of constant summer and you have a default sub

Do they have a summer phenomena of their own?
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Postby Reploid Productions » Fri Jul 03, 2015 9:02 pm

Zanera wrote:
Luziyca wrote:Yes, but spamtrums can be used as a fun way to describe them. Like the DOS user that enables Reppy to use the mod picture that has her jump up and down.


I have never seen the picture.

There's the large size version of it. :P I don't bust that one out very often in my mod sigs, because I literally made that pic in reaction to a particularly obnoxious DOS around 2009 who's entire shtick was basically "YOU CAN'T BAN ME I'LL KEEP COMING BACK UNTIL YOU CAVE TO MY UNREASONABLE DEMANDS!" The pic is essentially a response to that meaning "YAY I GET TO KILL SHIT! :twisted: "

As for Reddit, I suppose it will be interesting to see how long the furor lasts. I've watched small forums implode (and in the past decade and change seen plenty of "Screw you guys, I'm making my OWN forum! With blackjack! And hookers!" NS spinoffs do likewise,) but I don't recall seeing a large site foot-nuke itself. I kinda have to wonder if this will blow over in a week or two and things go back to the status quo, or if this is major enough to truly spark a long-term exodus and community collapse.
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Postby The Lone Alliance » Fri Jul 03, 2015 9:02 pm

Well this is interesting for sure, I can't see this ending well though.

Though it's clear that Pao wasn't the right person to put in a CEO position.


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Pao might have skipped a step there, though.

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Postby New Grestin » Fri Jul 03, 2015 9:02 pm

Sebtopiaris wrote:
Esceen wrote:The reason /r/Atheism is so bad honestly is because it was a default sub

Imagine if NS was in a state of constant summer and you have a default sub

Do they have a summer phenomena of their own?

Reddit enjoys summer all year long.

The poor bastards.
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Postby Sebtopiaris » Fri Jul 03, 2015 9:02 pm

Esceen wrote:
Thanatttynia wrote:
It's just been set up, you can participate there already (or, when the servers are working) and it seems familiar because it is literally smaller reddit with a design change.
8chan is completely different and Redditors probably don't want to make that much of a change.

8chan was 4chans response, not reddit's response. Reddit's response was voat, a carbon copy of reddit

What is 8chan, anyway?
I thought 4chan had no mods.
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Postby Thanatttynia » Fri Jul 03, 2015 9:03 pm

Esceen wrote:
Thanatttynia wrote:
It's just been set up, you can participate there already (or, when the servers are working) and it seems familiar because it is literally smaller reddit with a design change.
8chan is completely different and Redditors probably don't want to make that much of a change.

8chan was 4chans response, not reddit's response. Reddit's response was voat, a carbon copy of reddit


Yes, sorry. I thought he was wondering why Redditors wouldn't go to 8chan. Stupid. Sorry, it's 05:03 here in Good Old England.
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Postby Alyakia » Fri Jul 03, 2015 9:04 pm

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I have never seen the picture.

There's the large size version of it. :P I don't bust that one out very often in my mod sigs, because I literally made that pic in reaction to a particularly obnoxious DOS around 2009 who's entire shtick was basically "YOU CAN'T BAN ME I'LL KEEP COMING BACK UNTIL YOU CAVE TO MY UNREASONABLE DEMANDS!" The pic is essentially a response to that meaning "YAY I GET TO KILL SHIT! :twisted: "

As for Reddit, I suppose it will be interesting to see how long the furor lasts. I've watched small forums implode (and in the past decade and change seen plenty of "Screw you guys, I'm making my OWN forum! With blackjack! And hookers!" NS spinoffs do likewise,) but I don't recall seeing a large site foot-nuke itself. I kinda have to wonder if this will blow over in a week or two and things go back to the status quo, or if this is major enough to truly spark a long-term exodus and community collapse.


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Postby Esceen » Fri Jul 03, 2015 9:05 pm

Sebtopiaris wrote:
Esceen wrote:8chan was 4chans response, not reddit's response. Reddit's response was voat, a carbon copy of reddit

What is 8chan, anyway?
I thought 4chan had no mods.

4chan does have mods

They do it 4 free

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Postby Zanera » Fri Jul 03, 2015 9:06 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:
Zanera wrote:
I have never seen the picture.

There's the large size version of it. :P I don't bust that one out very often in my mod sigs, because I literally made that pic in reaction to a particularly obnoxious DOS around 2009 who's entire shtick was basically "YOU CAN'T BAN ME I'LL KEEP COMING BACK UNTIL YOU CAVE TO MY UNREASONABLE DEMANDS!" The pic is essentially a response to that meaning "YAY I GET TO KILL SHIT! :twisted: "

As for Reddit, I suppose it will be interesting to see how long the furor lasts. I've watched small forums implode (and in the past decade and change seen plenty of "Screw you guys, I'm making my OWN forum! With blackjack! And hookers!" NS spinoffs do likewise,) but I don't recall seeing a large site foot-nuke itself. I kinda have to wonder if this will blow over in a week or two and things go back to the status quo, or if this is major enough to truly spark a long-term exodus and community collapse.


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Postby Sebtopiaris » Fri Jul 03, 2015 9:06 pm

Esceen wrote:
Sebtopiaris wrote:What is 8chan, anyway?
I thought 4chan had no mods.

4chan does have mods

They do it 4 free

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Postby Esceen » Fri Jul 03, 2015 9:07 pm

Sebtopiaris wrote:
Esceen wrote:4chan does have mods

They do it 4 free

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Ahh you triggered me my life has been a lie too

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Postby New Grestin » Fri Jul 03, 2015 9:07 pm

Esceen wrote:
Sebtopiaris wrote:What is 8chan, anyway?
I thought 4chan had no mods.

4chan does have mods

They do it 4 free

That's not true.

They're paid in hot pockets.
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Postby Sebtopiaris » Fri Jul 03, 2015 9:07 pm

Esceen wrote:
Sebtopiaris wrote:What is 8chan, anyway?
I thought 4chan had no mods.

4chan does have mods

They do it 4 free

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Postby Thanatttynia » Fri Jul 03, 2015 9:08 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:I kinda have to wonder if this will blow over in a week or two and things go back to the status quo, or if this is major enough to truly spark a long-term exodus and community collapse.


I have a feeling it will just blow over. And I've never been wrong about something like this before. I've also never been right but who cares.

Sebtopiaris wrote:
Esceen wrote:8chan was 4chans response, not reddit's response. Reddit's response was voat, a carbon copy of reddit

What is 8chan, anyway?
I thought 4chan had no mods.

It was a new site in 2013 to protest what was percieved as censorship on 4chan. Basically 4chan, but freeeeer. I can't wait for 16chan.
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