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Postby Gauthier » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:45 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:
New Grestin wrote:In his house in San Francisco, Max Barry waits dreaming.

Soon, the stars shall be right, and we will be delivered unto salvation.

Ia! Ia! Barry Fhtagn!


Max Barry is Australian.


Are you for certain Max Barry doesn't have a house in San Francisco?
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Postby Zanera » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:45 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:
Zanera wrote:I think the moderators on NationStates are very fond of what they do, when they don't have to worry about rulebreakers.


That and Max keeps them in a state of semi-permanent inebriation.


It is genius. Shall we applaud our God Emperor Max Barry? :clap:

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Postby New Grestin » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:45 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:
New Grestin wrote:In his house in San Francisco, Max Barry waits dreaming.

Soon, the stars shall be right, and we will be delivered unto salvation.

Ia! Ia! Barry Fhtagn!


Max Barry is Australian.

I, uh, knew that.

Oh, and Voat is overloaded on my end too.

The exodus has begun, it seems.

EDIT: Actually, if my knowledge of Lovecraft lore is correct, Max would actually be Azathoth. [violet] would probably be Cthulhu.

Then again, "The Blind Idiot God" isn't a very flattering nickname.
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Luziyca
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Postby Luziyca » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:46 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:
DesAnges wrote:It was amusing to watch it unfold as I, like most sane people, have unsubbed from most of the default subs and the ones I still enjoy are not ones I browse too often.

It did raise some interesting points about the disconnect between moderator and admin on one of the world's largest websites - how shit and uncaring must you be that people are actually shutting down the website to get their point across? I'm glad that doesn't happen here. People just throw spamtrums instead.

We're also a fraction of Reddit's size and activity, and not armed with the sort of tools that would allow us to quickly or easily go all Madagascar on the site and Shut. Down. EVERYTHING!

I mean, I could potentially seriously fuck up the forums, but I damn well know better. (Besides, Max knows where I live! :P) Also helps that [v] is in pretty constant contact with the mod team, so I don't see a situation with such a massive disconnect arising here.

EDIT TO ADD: Also, "spamtrum", I like that!

Spamtrums should be used if someone spams the shit out of the forums because "X thing y mod did was unfairz!!!"

Anyways, meh. I don't really care much for Reddit, and realistically, why would I start caring now?
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Postby Esceen » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:47 pm

New Grestin wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
Max Barry is Australian.

I, uh, knew that.

Oh, and Voat is overloaded on my end too.

The exodus has begun, it seems.

I never understood how reddit was ever over-capacity. They have more than enough servers to host the site. Maybe Ellen Pao is bitcoin mining?

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Thanatttynia
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Postby Thanatttynia » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:47 pm

Esceen wrote:
Thanatttynia wrote:Redditors have had it in for her from the beginning. I can't help but get the feeling this is because she's a woman and (worse) a feminist.

Well, it's not. Women can be greedy sociopaths as well you know

I'm not disputing that. I'm just saying I think Reddit as a whole has had it in for her since before she was revealed as a greedy sociopath (if indeed that's what she is.)

Benuty wrote:Apparently Voat is overloaded with people attempting to cross over from Reddit, and as a result I cannot see what it is.


It's pretty much a carbon copy of Reddit with worse servers. I won't go there since the name reminds me of Goatse (and the logo doesn't help).
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Postby Costa Fierro » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:48 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
Max Barry is Australian.


Are you for certain Max Barry doesn't have a house in San Francisco?


San Franciscan house prices.
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Postby Reploid Productions » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:48 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:
Zanera wrote:I think the moderators on NationStates are very fond of what they do, when they don't have to worry about rulebreakers.


That and Max keeps them in a state of semi-permanent inebriation.

*hic!* I jusht wanna letcha all know, when I'm not busy shmacking the shit outta rulebreakersh, I love all your guysh, yer the besht!

:p
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Postby Benuty » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:49 pm

Luziyca wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:We're also a fraction of Reddit's size and activity, and not armed with the sort of tools that would allow us to quickly or easily go all Madagascar on the site and Shut. Down. EVERYTHING!

I mean, I could potentially seriously fuck up the forums, but I damn well know better. (Besides, Max knows where I live! :P) Also helps that [v] is in pretty constant contact with the mod team, so I don't see a situation with such a massive disconnect arising here.

EDIT TO ADD: Also, "spamtrum", I like that!

Spamtrums should be used if someone spams the shit out of the forums because "X thing y mod did was unfairz!!!"

Anyways, meh. I don't really care much for Reddit, and realistically, why would I start caring now?

Because of the fair actually decent subreddits for civil debate, and learning are being tossed asunder in a pyre?

Besides /r/AskHistorians is simply too massive to archive for future generations to look upon a once glorious civilization.
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Postby New Grestin » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:50 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
That and Max keeps them in a state of semi-permanent inebriation.

*hic!* I jusht wanna letcha all know, when I'm not busy shmacking the shit outta rulebreakersh, I love all your guysh, yer the besht!

:p

Go home Rep, you're drunk.
Esceen wrote:
New Grestin wrote:I, uh, knew that.

Oh, and Voat is overloaded on my end too.

The exodus has begun, it seems.

I never understood how reddit was ever over-capacity. They have more than enough servers to host the site. Maybe Ellen Pao is bitcoin mining?

Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.
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Postby Esceen » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:50 pm

Thanatttynia wrote:
Esceen wrote:Well, it's not. Women can be greedy sociopaths as well you know

I'm not disputing that. I'm just saying I think Reddit as a whole has had it in for her since before she was revealed as a greedy sociopath (if indeed that's what she is.)

Benuty wrote:Apparently Voat is overloaded with people attempting to cross over from Reddit, and as a result I cannot see what it is.


It's pretty much a carbon copy of Reddit with worse servers. I won't go there since the name reminds me of Goatse (and the logo doesn't help).

She filed a 1.8 million dollar sexual harrassment lawsuit against her former work in order to pay her husbands legal bills, which where 1.8 million dollars. Because he and Ellen Pao where committing fraud to get more money

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Postby Sebtopiaris » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:50 pm

The United Remnants of America wrote:I'll just wait and prepare for the moderator-admin civil wars to spread to other sites.

Like Nationstates.

the end is nigh, my brothers and sisters.

This is why ALL my factbooks and dispatches are in a word document.
Because NS is hella easy to hack if history has shown us anything, and shutting this place down in the past has been used to express discontent.
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Postby Luziyca » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:51 pm

Benuty wrote:
Luziyca wrote:Spamtrums should be used if someone spams the shit out of the forums because "X thing y mod did was unfairz!!!"

Anyways, meh. I don't really care much for Reddit, and realistically, why would I start caring now?

Because of the fair actually decent subreddits for civil debate, and learning are being tossed asunder in a pyre?

Besides /r/AskHistorians is simply too massive to archive for future generations to look upon a once glorious civilization.

We can port all of these subreddits to this very website. Think of all the new people that can participate in Esquarium, or NSG! :twisted: It will be fun for everybody!
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Postby Thanatttynia » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:51 pm

New Grestin wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
Max Barry is Australian.

I, uh, knew that.

Oh, and Voat is overloaded on my end too.

The exodus has begun, it seems.

EDIT: Actually, if my knowledge of Lovecraft lore is correct, Max would actually be Azathoth. [violet] would probably be Cthulhu.

Then again, "The Blind Idiot God" isn't a very flattering nickname.


Voat's been overloaded since FPH. It's not a suitable replacement, because of this and because it introduces barely any new ideas. It will fall prey to exactly the same problems as Reddit.
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Postby Esceen » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:51 pm

Benuty wrote:
Luziyca wrote:Spamtrums should be used if someone spams the shit out of the forums because "X thing y mod did was unfairz!!!"

Anyways, meh. I don't really care much for Reddit, and realistically, why would I start caring now?

Because of the fair actually decent subreddits for civil debate, and learning are being tossed asunder in a pyre?

Besides /r/AskHistorians is simply too massive to archive for future generations to look upon a once glorious civilization.

Yes I agree. /r/atheism is a beacon of intellectual discussion that we couldn't possibly abandon.

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Postby Sebtopiaris » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:52 pm

Luziyca wrote:
Benuty wrote:Because of the fair actually decent subreddits for civil debate, and learning are being tossed asunder in a pyre?

Besides /r/AskHistorians is simply too massive to archive for future generations to look upon a once glorious civilization.

We can port all of these subreddits to this very website. Think of all the new people that can participate in Esquarium, or NSG! :twisted: It will be fun for everybody!

Yeeeeeees! Reddit must come to NSG.
Maybe some can even come to my home region- we do need some fresh blood there.
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Postby Zanera » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:52 pm

Luziyca wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:We're also a fraction of Reddit's size and activity, and not armed with the sort of tools that would allow us to quickly or easily go all Madagascar on the site and Shut. Down. EVERYTHING!

I mean, I could potentially seriously fuck up the forums, but I damn well know better. (Besides, Max knows where I live! :P) Also helps that [v] is in pretty constant contact with the mod team, so I don't see a situation with such a massive disconnect arising here.

EDIT TO ADD: Also, "spamtrum", I like that!

Spamtrums should be used if someone spams the shit out of the forums because "X thing y mod did was unfairz!!!"

Anyways, meh. I don't really care much for Reddit, and realistically, why would I start caring now?


I am pretty sure the Mods are efficient at closing down such threads after describing in formal detail what their errors were.

Reploid Productions wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
That and Max keeps them in a state of semi-permanent inebriation.

*hic!* I jusht wanna letcha all know, when I'm not busy shmacking the shit outta rulebreakersh, I love all your guysh, yer the besht!

:p


I am sure you do not appreciate me as you have probably never seen me before, but I am sure the others give you much entertainment.

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Postby New Grestin » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:53 pm

Thanatttynia wrote:
New Grestin wrote:I, uh, knew that.

Oh, and Voat is overloaded on my end too.

The exodus has begun, it seems.

EDIT: Actually, if my knowledge of Lovecraft lore is correct, Max would actually be Azathoth. [violet] would probably be Cthulhu.

Then again, "The Blind Idiot God" isn't a very flattering nickname.


Voat's been overloaded since FPH. It's not a suitable replacement, because of this and because it introduces barely any new ideas. It will fall prey to exactly the same problems as Reddit.

Why did people even go to Voat in the first place?

Seems like kind of a random site to choose as Reddit 2. I mean, at least 8chan is functional.
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Postby Sebtopiaris » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:53 pm

Thanatttynia wrote: (and the logo doesn't help).

*stares at logo for like twenty seconds*
heh heh.
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Postby Thanatttynia » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:53 pm

Sebtopiaris wrote:
Luziyca wrote:We can port all of these subreddits to this very website. Think of all the new people that can participate in Esquarium, or NSG! :twisted: It will be fun for everybody!

Yeeeeeees! Reddit must come to NSG.

oh god no please no please god
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Postby Luziyca » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:54 pm

Zanera wrote:
Luziyca wrote:Spamtrums should be used if someone spams the shit out of the forums because "X thing y mod did was unfairz!!!"

Anyways, meh. I don't really care much for Reddit, and realistically, why would I start caring now?


I am pretty sure the Mods are efficient at closing down such threads after describing in formal detail what their errors were.

Yes, but spamtrums can be used as a fun way to describe them. Like the DOS user that enables Reppy to use the mod picture that has her jump up and down.
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Postby Sebtopiaris » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:54 pm

Esceen wrote:
Benuty wrote:Because of the fair actually decent subreddits for civil debate, and learning are being tossed asunder in a pyre?

Besides /r/AskHistorians is simply too massive to archive for future generations to look upon a once glorious civilization.

Yes I agree. /r/atheism is a beacon of intellectual discussion that we couldn't possibly abandon.

The entirety of reddit is worth saving imo. That place is the front page of the internet, after all.
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Postby New Grestin » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:55 pm

Sebtopiaris wrote:
Luziyca wrote:We can port all of these subreddits to this very website. Think of all the new people that can participate in Esquarium, or NSG! :twisted: It will be fun for everybody!

Yeeeeeees! Reddit must come to NSG.
Maybe some can even come to my home region- we do need some fresh blood there.

Yes...I can only imagine how well a Reddit exodus to NSG would go.
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Postby Reploid Productions » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:55 pm

Sebtopiaris wrote:
The United Remnants of America wrote:I'll just wait and prepare for the moderator-admin civil wars to spread to other sites.

Like Nationstates.

the end is nigh, my brothers and sisters.

This is why ALL my factbooks and dispatches are in a word document.
Because NS is hella easy to hack if history has shown us anything, and shutting this place down in the past has been used to express discontent.

There's a difference between hacking, password cracking, and DDOS attacks. To the best of my knowledge, the site has never actually been hacked, though there was that glitch that risked potentially exposing a little data, but it was fixed quickly and everybody informed. Password cracking isn't hacking, it's simply guessing or phishing passwords out of people. DDOS attacks aren't hacking either, that literally amounts to using a script to essentially hit F5 in a bajillion browser tabs at once to overwhelm the server's ability to respond.

Besides, everybody knows that our greatest opponent ever was a rogue moose.
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Postby Alyakia » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:55 pm

Thanatttynia wrote:
Alyakia wrote:
do you mean when a bunch of people made a secondary forum? because there are two major incidents that fostered it and neither of them were minor. there have been a few shitstorms though so it's hard to tell which you are referring to.


I have no idea, sorry. I think it's that one. I come and go in drifts and waves every few months or so. This time I'm trying to stay. If we are thinking about the same thing, it's probably fair to call it minor in the sense that this Reddit debacle is 'major'.
What were the two causes, incidentally? Was one something about the mods looking into telegrams? If so, that's the very same.


im going to spoiler this because i feel weird talking about it and bringing it up now

the first was mods going through moderation candidates TGs with a fine comb without telling them before they even know it happened or that they are candidates, which is yeah probably the same thing we're thinking of. i can't remember how it ended though. the second was discontent with the mishandling of a report about a poster pretty much doing everything short of posting "i rape children" to let people know that if he had not already done so he would very much like to go to thailand where their laws are not bound by petty western morality. it all got mostly sorted out in the end but for a while it was understandably a source of intermittent problems. but i don't want to end up sparking it off again.
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