by Waldeck-Pyrmont » Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:18 pm
by Libreng » Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:21 pm
by Llamalandia » Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:23 pm
Waldeck-Pyrmont wrote:A topic that prods into where I live often is the debate over the ownership of firearms and such.
I live in the State of New York, where my neighbors scream how we're being oppressed by the SAFE act, and where people in the cities writhe in fear over the thought of a gun. Me, myself, is the owner of 3 different firearms, all of them non-assault rifle and hunting oriented. To me, the SAFE act is really legislating for the cities, and I'd prefer a more decentralized argument to gun ownership (As people in urban areas want firearms for protection, my firearms help feed myself and the family).
Thoughts, anyone?
Sorry if this has been done before. Not going to look back 2002 pages of threads to see.
by Occupied Deutschland » Mon Jun 01, 2015 7:11 pm
by Steamtopia » Mon Jun 01, 2015 7:14 pm
by Glorious KASSRD » Mon Jun 01, 2015 7:26 pm
Steamtopia wrote:Oh boy, we've never done this before.
I've yet to meet anyone who owns a gun, or anyone who has wanted one. Seems to work pretty well to me if we just all stay away from them.
by Glorious KASSRD » Mon Jun 01, 2015 7:31 pm
by Big Jim P » Mon Jun 01, 2015 7:32 pm
Steamtopia wrote:Oh boy, we've never done this before.
I've yet to meet anyone who owns a gun, or anyone who has wanted one. Seems to work pretty well to me if we just all stay away from them.
by Wallenburg » Mon Jun 01, 2015 7:35 pm
by Wallenburg » Mon Jun 01, 2015 7:37 pm
Occupied Deutschland wrote:Assault weapons are a made-up scare tactic designed to win lying fuckwads the votes of the ignorant and/or manipulative, many 'gun-control' ideas are racist (either in their effect(s) or by their very design), a modernization of the NICS program in the US could avoid the racial discrimination problems of other typically proposed systems for a 'universal' background check (and such should be carefully implemented as opposed to rushed into as by the aforementioned fuckwads in ways that has the ACLU criticizing it's shittiness), 922(r) provisions could be axed entirely, the ban on newly-manufactured NFA items could be lifted seeing as how such legal NFA items haven't been an issue, Jesus was black, Ronald Reagan was the devil, and the government is lying about...well, a whole lot of shit, really.
Thank you.
by Llamalandia » Mon Jun 01, 2015 7:39 pm
Wallenburg wrote:I thought Second Amendment / Gun Control was still active...
by Big Jim P » Mon Jun 01, 2015 7:40 pm
Wallenburg wrote:Occupied Deutschland wrote:Assault weapons are a made-up scare tactic designed to win lying fuckwads the votes of the ignorant and/or manipulative, many 'gun-control' ideas are racist (either in their effect(s) or by their very design), a modernization of the NICS program in the US could avoid the racial discrimination problems of other typically proposed systems for a 'universal' background check (and such should be carefully implemented as opposed to rushed into as by the aforementioned fuckwads in ways that has the ACLU criticizing it's shittiness), 922(r) provisions could be axed entirely, the ban on newly-manufactured NFA items could be lifted seeing as how such legal NFA items haven't been an issue, Jesus was black, Ronald Reagan was the devil, and the government is lying about...well, a whole lot of shit, really.
Thank you.
This is why gun rights advocates have such a problem winning over moderates.
by Celsuis » Mon Jun 01, 2015 7:42 pm
by Washington Resistance Army » Mon Jun 01, 2015 7:44 pm
by Llamalandia » Mon Jun 01, 2015 7:45 pm
Celsuis wrote:Criminals will always have firearms, illegal or not. Law-abiding civilians ought to have the means to defend themselves. So-called assault weapons are almost never used in crimes, but if people desire them to defend themselves with them , they ought not to be restricted from doing so. Ultimately, ownership of guns/firearms is of utmost importance to personal safety as well as the security of a free state. It is my personal belief that the ownership of any weapon capable of being used with extreme discretion should not be restricted.
by Llamalandia » Mon Jun 01, 2015 7:48 pm
Merizoc wrote:Never understood the appeal. Must be nice in Britain not to have the kind of gun culture that exists here.
by Celsuis » Mon Jun 01, 2015 7:50 pm
Llamalandia wrote:Celsuis wrote:Criminals will always have firearms, illegal or not. Law-abiding civilians ought to have the means to defend themselves. So-called assault weapons are almost never used in crimes, but if people desire them to defend themselves with them , they ought not to be restricted from doing so. Ultimately, ownership of guns/firearms is of utmost importance to personal safety as well as the security of a free state. It is my personal belief that the ownership of any weapon capable of being used with extreme discretion should not be restricted.
Well in fairness if you don't mind a jack booted police state=, I'm sure gun control measures could be taken to such extremes as to confiscate most illegal weapons. Of course the cost is not worth. A few thousands deaths are a reasonable price to pay for securing gun rights and liberties to the vast overwhelming majority of non-violent citizenry.
by The Joseon Dynasty » Mon Jun 01, 2015 8:17 pm
by Washington Resistance Army » Mon Jun 01, 2015 8:17 pm
The Joseon Dynasty wrote:As always, I'm viscerally opposed to any sort of gun ownership.
by Confederate Ramenia » Mon Jun 01, 2015 8:31 pm
Celsuis wrote:Llamalandia wrote:Well in fairness if you don't mind a jack booted police state=, I'm sure gun control measures could be taken to such extremes as to confiscate most illegal weapons. Of course the cost is not worth. A few thousands deaths are a reasonable price to pay for securing gun rights and liberties to the vast overwhelming majority of non-violent citizenry.
Considering how contraband and drugs still manage to slip into US Supermax prisons, I highly doubt any government however powerful or pervasive is capable of confiscating weapons/firearms. It just won't happen. We should recognize this fact that give people the means necessary to defend themselves.
The Flutterlands wrote:Because human life and dignity is something that should be universally valued above all things in society.
Benito Mussolini wrote:Everybody has the right to create for himself his own ideology and to attempt to enforce it with all the energy of which he is capable.
by The Joseon Dynasty » Mon Jun 01, 2015 8:40 pm
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