2015 Canadian Election

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

What does it mean to become Canadian? To become a Good dedicated Citizen of Canada, If you come to this country you better love it, and I feel if you love it, you should take it's culture.

So you'd feel the same way if you went to another country and had to do the same, correct?

100% It's a two way street.

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

Did I state Canada is Anglo-French because they were the first nationalities from Europe to be in it? No, I care very little who was here first, I care about who built this country, who died for it the World Wars, who died for the Empire, Who defended it from America, who united it.

Aren't you Italian?

Yes I am by birth, Luckily for Integration I was born to an Anglo-Canadian Father

[Grunberg-Ludbach]

Aren't you Italian?

Yes I am by birth, Luckily for Integration I was born to an Anglo-Canadian Father[/quote

I think you're too fixated on being Anglo-French. Canada has a strong and unique culture, and I'd agree that immigrants must adopt this culture or go back. That said, you're Italian, and integrated just fine, seemingly. If a Polish man were to come to Canada and become "Canadian", would that be alright as well?

I myself am an immigrant, from Germany to the UK.

[Fanosolia]

So, that whole becoming canadian thing? What does it mean to become one?

As far as I'm concerned, that's a non-issue. Even more so than some cultural practices. To quote a libertarian "That's just nanny state-ish."

The State ensures the cohesion and solidarity of society. In fact, in most developed nations -excluding America- this is one of the most important duties of the State.

The nanny State does not exist despite its citizens' wishes, it exists because they wish for it to do so.

I don't want the state telling me what name I can give my child. Sure, there's still the society's expectation of my not naming it something like curse word, but you're talking me the state decides my name or anyone's name to be a smith?

Again, I understand things like language, economics, laws and stuff like that. I don't understand the smaller crap from names to the religion the practices (so long as I live in a country with freedom of religion as my home in the charter.).

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

Yes I am by birth, Luckily for Integration I was born to an Anglo-Canadian Father[/quote

I think you're too fixated on being Anglo-French. Canada has a strong and unique culture, and I'd agree that immigrants must adopt this culture or go back. That said, you're Italian, and integrated just fine, seemingly. If a Polish man were to come to Canada and become "Canadian", would that be alright as well?

I myself am an immigrant, from Germany to the UK.

Anglo-French Culturally, Of course doesn't matter your origin as long as you assimilate I could care less.

[Grunberg-Ludbach]

Yes I am by birth, Luckily for Integration I was born to an Anglo-Canadian Father[/quote

I think you're too fixated on being Anglo-French. Canada has a strong and unique culture, and I'd agree that immigrants must adopt this culture or go back. That said, you're Italian, and integrated just fine, seemingly. If a Polish man were to come to Canada and become "Canadian", would that be alright as well?

I myself am an immigrant, from Germany to the UK.

Anglo-French Culturally, Of course doesn't matter your origin as long as you assimilate I could care less.

I'd argue that Canadian culture is neither English nor French.

It's Canadian, despite it's history. It's been it's own thing for quite some time, so it's natural that Canada is distinct from both "parent nations."

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

Anglo-French Culturally, Of course doesn't matter your origin as long as you assimilate I could care less.

I'd argue that Canadian culture is neither English nor French.

It's Canadian, despite it's history. It's been it's own thing for quite some time, so it's natural that Canada is distinct from both "parent nations."

Anglo-Canadian (Meaning to me, British) and French Canadian are the two usually considered sections of the Canadian Culture so saying Canadian and them are generally the same thing, but yeah your right that is shorter.

[MERIZoC]

I'm offended that your name isn't a good traditional name like Apisi.

Did I state Canada is Anglo-French because they were the first nationalities from Europe to be in it? No, I care very little who was here first, I care about who built this country, who died for it the World Wars, who died for the Empire, Who defended it from America, who united it.

Well you sure didn't do any of those things.

[Iberonia]

I'd argue that Canadian culture is neither English nor French.

It's Canadian, despite it's history. It's been it's own thing for quite some time, so it's natural that Canada is distinct from both "parent nations."

Anglo-Canadian (Meaning to me, British) and French Canadian are the two usually considered sections of the Canadian Culture so saying Canadian and them are generally the same thing, but yeah your right that is shorter.

There is no shame in being proud of European roots. I don't get how it is offensive to wish for people who would be more compatible for immigration into Canada. The U.S had a policy of allowing only Northwestern European migrants into the country for quite a while, it had the effect of introducing a pioneering and culturally compatible people into the landscape. They developed the land and made it prosperous. Canada is stronger for having a pronounced Anglo-French heritage.

[Olerand]

The State ensures the cohesion and solidarity of society. In fact, in most developed nations -excluding America- this is one of the most important duties of the State.

The nanny State does not exist despite its citizens' wishes, it exists because they wish for it to do so.

1- I don't want the state telling me what name I can give my child. 2- Sure, there's still the society's expectation of my not naming it something like curse word, but you're talking me the state decides my name or anyone's name to be a smith?

Again, I understand things like language, economics, laws and stuff like that. 3- I don't understand the smaller crap from names to the religion the practices (so long as I live in a country with freedom of religion as my home in the charter.).

1- Then live in a nation-State that does not do so.
2- If the nation-State in question has a list of culturally approved names that must be chosen for infants, then yes.

3- Names are an immense part of successful assimilation, or integration. Polish immigrants to France who forsook their traditional names for French ones have assimilated into French society, Muslim immigrants who insist on naming their children Muhammad or Sofiane, or Abdulaziz, or Abdullah, or any collection of names not native to France and to the French tongue have -in their majority, not their entirety- not assimilated. Names are important for employment, socialization, finding places to live, and many more facets of successful assimilation, or integration.

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

Did I state Canada is Anglo-French because they were the first nationalities from Europe to be in it? No, I care very little who was here first, I care about who built this country, who died for it the World Wars, who died for the Empire, Who defended it from America, who united it.

Well you sure didn't do any of those things.

Nor did my Relatives, but I recognize and revere the culture of those who did, because I am loyal to this country and it's values.

[Fanosolia]

1- I don't want the state telling me what name I can give my child. 2- Sure, there's still the society's expectation of my not naming it something like curse word, but you're talking me the state decides my name or anyone's name to be a smith?

Again, I understand things like language, economics, laws and stuff like that. 3- I don't understand the smaller crap from names to the religion the practices (so long as I live in a country with freedom of religion as my home in the charter.).

1- Then live in a nation-State that does not do so.
2- If the nation-State in question has a list of culturally approved names that must be chosen for infants, then yes.

3- Names are an immense part of successful assimilation, or integration. Polish immigrants to France who forsook their traditional names for French ones have assimilated into French society, Muslim immigrants who insist on naming their children Muhammad or Sofiane, or Abdulaziz, or Abdullah, or any collection of names not native to France and to the French tongue have -in their majority, not their entirety- not assimilated. Names are important for employment, socialization, finding places to live, and many more facets of successful assimilation, or integration.

1- Which I'm pretty sure I do, thank you.
2. Yeah, I'd be on of the, probably, few not supporting that.

3- And yet people with those names, still find work here, in my country. Maybe that's the cultural difference, and if so fine, but the name in my mind is not say important as communicating to me. I might be wrong in this, but I think it's more important to understand the person, than what his/her name is.

[The Liberated Territories]

Did I state Canada is Anglo-French because they were the first nationalities from Europe to be in it? No, I care very little who was here first, I care about who built this country, who died for it the World Wars, who died for the Empire, Who defended it from America, who united it.

Aren't you Italian?

Don't worry, he's "integrated."

[Olerand]

1- Then live in a nation-State that does not do so.
2- If the nation-State in question has a list of culturally approved names that must be chosen for infants, then yes.

3- Names are an immense part of successful assimilation, or integration. Polish immigrants to France who forsook their traditional names for French ones have assimilated into French society, Muslim immigrants who insist on naming their children Muhammad or Sofiane, or Abdulaziz, or Abdullah, or any collection of names not native to France and to the French tongue have -in their majority, not their entirety- not assimilated. Names are important for employment, socialization, finding places to live, and many more facets of successful assimilation, or integration.

1- Which I'm pretty sure I do, thank you.
2. Yeah, I'd be on of the, probably, few not supporting that.

3- And yet people with those names, still find work here, in my country. Maybe that's the cultural difference, and if so fine, but the name in my mind is not say important as communicating to me. I might be wrong in this, but I think it's more important to understand the person, than what his/her name is.

1- Wonderful.

3- What country is that? The only Western nation that does not face problems with the assimilation and integration of Muslims that I can think of is, ironically enough, America. Mostly due to its lack of Muslim ghettoization, its average immigrant's higher economic class than that of Europe's, and the lack of a significant Muslim minority. All conditions that do not exist on the Old Continent.

Unless if you are from a non-Western nation.

[The imperial canadian dutchy]

Aren't you Italian?

Don't worry, he's "integrated."

I'd like to think so, but we all have lengths to go.

[Saint-Thor]

So why have the Conservatives risen as well, apparently all at the expense of the NDP? Did Mulcair do bad?

Wedge/dog-whistle politics. Basically, Harper proposed banning the niqab in citizenship ceremonies. That gave Harper a boost, while it really hurt the NDP in Quebec (which was their principal base of support) since Quebecers are receptive to that sort of politics I think.

Receptive sure, but not necessarily caused by the niqab, as shown by the most recent polls. The Conservative can barely get 20% in Québec, ranking right under the Bloc. This is not a significant rise on a national scale. We currently have a laughable 5 conservative seats in Québec. I highly doubt Québec could give more than 10 seats, like in 2006 and 2008. Québec is the only place in Canada where the NDP can hope to hold a large number of seats. So if the Conservatives are doing so well in Canada, it's mostly due to their supporters outside Québec.

The thing is that votes in Québec can not be taken for granted. The province has changed political affiliation many times in a short period of time and it doesn't take much to lose the public favor, especially outside of Montréal where a good campaign can make a huge difference. Québec has voted massively for the Liberals of Pierre Trudeau in 1980 (74/75 seats, forming 50% of the federal government) while having a massive PQ governement in the province at the same time. They voted massively for the Conservatives of Mulroney a few years later. Then they gave an outstanding support to the Bloc québécois in the 90's until late 2000's. Finally they were seduced by Jack Layton, which caused an enthousiasm for the NDP (we called it the "orange wave") with 59 seats, more than all the other provinces combined.

[New Werpland]

Anglo-French Culturally, Of course doesn't matter your origin as long as you assimilate I could care less.

I'd argue that Canadian culture is neither English nor French.

It's Canadian, despite it's history. It's been it's own thing for quite some time, so it's natural that Canada is distinct from both "parent nations."

Therefor multicultural. A Canadian is not defined based on ethnic background.

[Napkiraly]

This is gold.

[Camicon]

This is gold.

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Anyone But Harper
Get Out The Vote
Immortan Joe For Prime Minister

[Malkorian Empire]

I find it very disappointing with the amount of support for the PCs on here after Bill C-51.

[Camicon]

I find it very disappointing with the amount of support for the PCs on here after Bill C-51.

Someone made a bunch of puppets to skew this poll, and artificially inflate Harper's support.
*snip*

[Canadian Davsland]

Voting in advanced polls tomorrow. Voting NDP!

if anything to get rid of Harper and his fascist Conservative cronies, and restore the Canada we used to love.

Restore Canada?
By voting for the people who want to allow immigrants to bring there entire families? Screw that.

By voting for the Tories, you say you don't give a fuck about Canada or it's people. The Cons have cheated, lied, and stole the election and committed electoral fraud.

FUCK THAT!

[Canadian Davsland]

I find it very disappointing with the amount of support for the PCs on here after Bill C-51.

They aren't PC's, they are fascist RefCons.

[Camicon]

I find it very disappointing with the amount of support for the PCs on here after Bill C-51.

They aren't PC's, they are fascist RefCons.

I find it very disappointing that you didn't bother to learn what fascism actually means before you started plastering it all over things you don't like. Seriously, the Tories are not fascist; not even close.

[Olerand]

They aren't PC's, they are fascist RefCons.

I find it very disappointing that you didn't bother to learn what fascism actually means before you started plastering it all over things you don't like. Seriously, the Tories are not fascist; not even close.

What a fascist thing to say.