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Who will you vote for in the federal election?

Conservative (Stephen Harper)
156
30%
Liberal (Justin Trudeau)
117
23%
NDP (Thomas Mulcair)
132
25%
Green Party (Elizabeth May)
25
5%
Bloc Québécois (Gilles Duceppe)
25
5%
Other party please specify
11
2%
Undecided
9
2%
I'm not voting
44
8%
 
Total votes : 519

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Charellia
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Postby Charellia » Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:53 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Charellia wrote:Climate change is as politicized as it is possible for an issue to be. You need only google a climate related topic to see this. A climate scientist gave a guest lecture at my university class last week and even then the science took a back seat to his politics. Climate change as a scientific issue has largely become buried beneath climate change as a moral issue on which almost everybody is firmly entrenched on one side or the other and unwilling to even consider the arguments of the other side, the very opposite of how scientifically minded people should think.

Climate change is a scientific issue but not doing anything about it has moral consequences.

I agree, however, the scientific and moral sides of the issue have become so conflated as to influence how scientific findings are reported

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Postby Oneracon » Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:01 pm

Fanosolia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
I agree. The more people vote the better. There is no legitimate reason not to be registered and to not vote. If you don';t vote you have no right to complain about whose in office and what they do.


To a point I agree, but I think people still have the right to complain. True that voting is one and the most obvious way of political engagement, but it's not the only way. Even if one did not vote for say, reasons of no agreeing with any canidate in a very harsh way, there's no reason they couldn't still protest legislation they're against, be vocal about issues, or engage in civil disobedience (hey, it's they choice man), or other such methods. Mind you, I still urge people to do so on principle, even if it's just to deface the ballot. that's doing something, but still, voting isn't the only way of getting you voice out their. It's just one that the common person uses the most regularly.

I do wonder how people feel about none of the above voting? You know, have it actually mean something instead of just making it some of error in the system because writing mickey mouse in, if you catch my cold. :p

In some ridings of this election, not voting is essentially the same as voting Conservative.

As for none of the above voting, I'm in favour of putting it in if we institute mandatory voting. Of course... when barely anyone actually shows up to vote for it, then it will just go to show that a good portion of the "edgy non-voters" are actually just covering up being lazy. :p
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Postby Fanosolia » Fri Oct 09, 2015 7:43 am

Oneracon wrote:
Fanosolia wrote:
To a point I agree, but I think people still have the right to complain. True that voting is one and the most obvious way of political engagement, but it's not the only way. Even if one did not vote for say, reasons of no agreeing with any canidate in a very harsh way, there's no reason they couldn't still protest legislation they're against, be vocal about issues, or engage in civil disobedience (hey, it's they choice man), or other such methods. Mind you, I still urge people to do so on principle, even if it's just to deface the ballot. that's doing something, but still, voting isn't the only way of getting you voice out their. It's just one that the common person uses the most regularly.

I do wonder how people feel about none of the above voting? You know, have it actually mean something instead of just making it some of error in the system because writing mickey mouse in, if you catch my cold. :p

In some ridings of this election, not voting is essentially the same as voting Conservative.

As for none of the above voting, I'm in favour of putting it in if we institute mandatory voting. Of course... when barely anyone actually shows up to vote for it, then it will just go to show that a good portion of the "edgy non-voters" are actually just covering up being lazy. :p


True, I don't refute that (I mean look at my riding, 77% chance of winnin), just that in general it's good to keep up pressure even if you don't.

That is a concern. Idk, I just think in principal its more effort to show up, and the opinion is more clear and overt than writin mickey mouse. Plus isn't only a $20 fine not to vote in australia?
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Fanosolia
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Postby Fanosolia » Fri Oct 09, 2015 7:50 am

Oh I also want to know how true this is. "Canada has alway picked the refugees that are likely to thrive" was a statement I hear on the radio. Have we always prioritize reugees in this way?
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Nation of Quebec
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Postby Nation of Quebec » Fri Oct 09, 2015 3:36 pm

Looks like there's going to be record numbers at the advance voting. I take that as a good sign.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/10/09 ... a-politics
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Oct 09, 2015 3:45 pm

Nation of Quebec wrote:Looks like there's going to be record numbers at the advance voting. I take that as a good sign.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/10/09 ... a-politics


What is that a good sign for? Which party does that benefit?

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Eroda Saaniah
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Postby Eroda Saaniah » Fri Oct 09, 2015 3:46 pm

Fanosolia wrote:Oh I also want to know how true this is. "Canada has alway picked the refugees that are likely to thrive" was a statement I hear on the radio. Have we always prioritize reugees in this way?

Most countries do, I would not be surprised.
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Postby Nation of Quebec » Fri Oct 09, 2015 4:05 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Nation of Quebec wrote:Looks like there's going to be record numbers at the advance voting. I take that as a good sign.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/10/09 ... a-politics


What is that a good sign for? Which party does that benefit?


Typically advance voting means that the incumbent government is going to be hurt, as was the case in the recent provincial election in Alberta.
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National-Socialist France
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Postby National-Socialist France » Fri Oct 09, 2015 4:50 pm

I am glad that Stephen Harper is winning.
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Geilinor
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Postby Geilinor » Fri Oct 09, 2015 4:52 pm

National-Socialist France wrote:I am glad that Stephen Harper is winning.

Except for the obvious fact he isn't.
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Postby National-Socialist France » Fri Oct 09, 2015 4:54 pm

Geilinor wrote:
National-Socialist France wrote:I am glad that Stephen Harper is winning.

Except for the obvious fact he isn't.

In the polls here he is.
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Postby Geilinor » Fri Oct 09, 2015 4:55 pm

National-Socialist France wrote:
Geilinor wrote:Except for the obvious fact he isn't.

In the polls here he is.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-election-2015-grenier-polls-oct8-1.3262692
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Postby Kraylandia » Fri Oct 09, 2015 4:57 pm

Which party is similar to the UK Conservatives? I'm aware different terms differ by country and stuff..
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Postby Fanosolia » Fri Oct 09, 2015 5:10 pm

Eroda Saaniah wrote:
Fanosolia wrote:Oh I also want to know how true this is. "Canada has alway picked the refugees that are likely to thrive" was a statement I hear on the radio. Have we always prioritize reugees in this way?

Most countries do, I would not be surprised.

Huh, I didn't think it was that common. I guess it makes some sense though.
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Postby MERIZoC » Fri Oct 09, 2015 5:28 pm

Kraylandia wrote:Which party is similar to the UK Conservatives? I'm aware different terms differ by country and stuff..

Cons, easily.

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Postby Atlanticatia » Fri Oct 09, 2015 6:43 pm

Merizoc wrote:
Kraylandia wrote:Which party is similar to the UK Conservatives? I'm aware different terms differ by country and stuff..

Cons, easily.


Canadian Tories are more socially conservative than UK Tories, though.
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Postby Canadian Davsland » Fri Oct 09, 2015 6:50 pm

Voting in advanced polls tomorrow. Voting NDP!

if anything to get rid of Harper and his fascist Conservative cronies, and restore the Canada we used to love.
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Postby Canadian Davsland » Fri Oct 09, 2015 6:51 pm

National-Socialist France wrote:I am glad that Stephen Harper is winning.


No he isn't. And even if he gets a minority his govt would be dead after a day.
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Postby Fanosolia » Fri Oct 09, 2015 6:55 pm

Canadian Davsland wrote:
National-Socialist France wrote:I am glad that Stephen Harper is winning.


No he isn't. And even if he gets a minority his govt would be dead after a day.


How so?
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Postby Canadian Davsland » Fri Oct 09, 2015 7:04 pm

Fanosolia wrote:
Canadian Davsland wrote:
No he isn't. And even if he gets a minority his govt would be dead after a day.


How so?


The Liberals and NDP can form a coalition (which a majority of each parties support) and end the Conservative's regime of tyranny.
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Postby Camicon » Fri Oct 09, 2015 7:04 pm

Fanosolia wrote:
Canadian Davsland wrote:
No he isn't. And even if he gets a minority his govt would be dead after a day.


How so?

The Libs and NDP can block a Tory budget, allowing them to hold a vote of no-confidence, which would allow the runner up a chance to form government.
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Postby Fanosolia » Fri Oct 09, 2015 7:05 pm

Camicon wrote:
Fanosolia wrote:
How so?

The Libs and NDP can block a Tory budget, allowing them to hold a vote of no-confidence, which would allow the runner up a chance to form government.

oh, that's how that works. I didn't know the budget came into that.

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Fanosolia wrote:
How so?


The Liberals and NDP can form a coalition (which a majority of each parties support) and end the Conservative's regime of tyranny.

that's really possible? Justin stopped being stubborn?
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Postby Canadian Davsland » Fri Oct 09, 2015 7:14 pm

Camicon wrote:
Fanosolia wrote:
How so?

The Libs and NDP can block a Tory budget, allowing them to hold a vote of no-confidence, which would allow the runner up a chance to form government.


That's true. That would have been another way the CPC govt could fall.
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Postby Canadian Davsland » Fri Oct 09, 2015 7:16 pm

Fanosolia wrote:
Camicon wrote:The Libs and NDP can block a Tory budget, allowing them to hold a vote of no-confidence, which would allow the runner up a chance to form government.

oh, that's how that works. I didn't know the budget came into that.

Canadian Davsland wrote:
The Liberals and NDP can form a coalition (which a majority of each parties support) and end the Conservative's regime of tyranny.

that's really possible? Justin stopped being stubborn?


it is possible. And the pressure will be ratcheted up on Justin from Liberal voters to go into a coalition with the NDP. The same thing will also happen to Mulclair from NDP voters determined to bring down the RefCons.
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