[US Election 2016] Democratic Primary Megathread

[Hetalia Dakota 2 II]

I hope Biden runs, that would drain a lot of Hillary support.

It would also suck a lot of the media attention from Sanders, and he's had to fight for every second of airtime to date.

I feel Biden would be a better President.

[Hetalia Dakota 2 II]

yeah I think the narrative would immediately become Clinton vs biden. the media wants to be able to ignore sanders.

Not to mention Clinton automatically has 1/5th of the delegates since the "Democratic" party has a fairly undemocratic way of nominating candidates.

That said, she also had them when Obama won.

Do you mean feminists?

[Ashmoria]

yeah I think the narrative would immediately become Clinton vs biden. the media wants to be able to ignore sanders.

Not to mention Clinton automatically has 1/5th of the delegates since the "Democratic" party has a fairly undemocratic way of nominating candidates.

That said, she also had them when Obama won.

yeah she knows the tricks now.

I think she announced the super delegate count so as to discourage biden from jumping into the race.

[Actan]

Not to mention Clinton automatically has 1/5th of the delegates since the "Democratic" party has a fairly undemocratic way of nominating candidates.

That said, she also had them when Obama won.

Do you mean feminists?

No, the "superdelegates", which are basically appointed delegates that got their position due to political or economic influence. They are all rigidly establishment so would never support someone like Sanders. One of the worst aspects of the Democratic Party.

[Actan]

Not to mention Clinton automatically has 1/5th of the delegates since the "Democratic" party has a fairly undemocratic way of nominating candidates.

That said, she also had them when Obama won.

yeah she knows the tricks now.

I think she announced the super delegate count so as to discourage biden from jumping into the race.

I mean I don't doubt she has them.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

It would also suck a lot of the media attention from Sanders, and he's had to fight for every second of airtime to date.

I feel Biden would be a better President.

Than who? Hillary? Perhaps. There's not much daylight between them, honestly. Sanders? Why?

[Hetalia Dakota 2 II]

Do you mean feminists?

No, the "superdelegates", which are basically appointed delegates that got their position due to political or economic influence. They are all rigidly establishment so would never support someone like Sanders. One of the worst aspects of the Democratic Party.

Could they go for Biden?

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Not to mention Clinton automatically has 1/5th of the delegates since the "Democratic" party has a fairly undemocratic way of nominating candidates.

That said, she also had them when Obama won.

Do you mean feminists?

Superdelegates.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

No, the "superdelegates", which are basically appointed delegates that got their position due to political or economic influence. They are all rigidly establishment so would never support someone like Sanders. One of the worst aspects of the Democratic Party.

Could they go for Biden?

Easily.

[Actan]

No, the "superdelegates", which are basically appointed delegates that got their position due to political or economic influence. They are all rigidly establishment so would never support someone like Sanders. One of the worst aspects of the Democratic Party.

Could they go for Biden?

Yes. Biden is very connected to the establishment, arguably more so than Hillary. That said, they also weigh electability.

[Hetalia Dakota 2 II]

Could they go for Biden?

Yes. Biden is very connected to the establishment, arguably more so than Hillary. That said, they also weigh electability.

I really really want him to win.

[Actan]

Yes. Biden is very connected to the establishment, arguably more so than Hillary. That said, they also weigh electability.

I really really want him to win.

He won't, I don't see him winning, but I won't discount him.

[Marylandonia]

Yes. Biden is very connected to the establishment, arguably more so than Hillary. That said, they also weigh electability.

I really really want him to win.

If he got in and Hillary's fade continued unabated, he'd win.

[Marxist Nations]

FEEL THE BERN!!!!!!!!!!

[Genivaria]

I really really want him to win.

If he got in and Hillary's fade continued unabated, he'd win.

I wouldn't discount Bernie's populist anti-establishment theme, especially among young people.

[Hetalia Dakota 2 II]

If he got in and Hillary's fade continued unabated, he'd win.

I wouldn't discount Bernie's populist anti-establishment theme, especially among young people.

I really wish the Internet would stop their obsession over him.

[Genivaria]

I wouldn't discount Bernie's populist anti-establishment theme, especially among young people.

I really wish the Internet would stop their obsession over him.

They will when the election is over.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

I wouldn't discount Bernie's populist anti-establishment theme, especially among young people.

I really wish the Internet would stop their obsession over him.

Why?

[Hetalia Dakota 2 II]

I really wish the Internet would stop their obsession over him.

Why?

people like generic "Feel the bern!!!111" guy just convince me to of vote for him and to convince others to do the same. He's all over my fucking Facebook too

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Why?

people like generic "Feel the bern!!!111" guy just convince me to of vote for him and to convince others to do the same. He's all over my fucking Facebook too

I admit, I do wish that a different slogan had caught on, but the fact that he's raising such enthusiasm shows that his message has struck a chord with many people. I can see how this would be annoying, though. Tell you what: rather than judge an entire movement by the actions of those whose enthusiasm outweighs their common sense or tact, check out his positions and decide for yourself. If you're not into the platform, that's fine. Vote your conscience. However, if he does appeal to you, wouldn't it be a shame to refrain from supporting him due to the foolishness of a handful of True Believer types?

[Indian Empire]

I decided to analyze the top 3 (official) candidates in the Democratic Presidential Race, and determine a final conclusion as to which one I feel has the best chance to allow the democrats to win.

Hillary Clinton- Biography
Age: 67
Previous Office: Secretary of State (2009-2013)
Previous Runs: 2008

Positives: Has Ran for president previously and is one of the more experienced candidates in the field. Is also a heavy supporter of the Obama administration.

Negatives: Clinton is a lady (no female has ever became president). Hillary is also a former secretary of state, the last former secretary of state to become president was James Buchanan. Clinton could also be facing criminal charges for her non-co-operation. Her Age may also be a factor in her potential presidency.

Conclusion: Clinton started high in the polls, due to being the one most closely associated to Obama, but the scandals and several other factors have led to a decline in the polls, and I think this is likely close to the end of Clinton being a viable presidential candidate. I predict Clinton will fall to 2nd place and remain there throughout the rest of the elections.

Bernard "Bernie" Sanders- Biography
Age: 73
Previous Office: Vermont Senator
Previous Runs: N/A

Positives: Sanders is a candidate who matches many democratic views- while holding a officially "Independent" Stance, allowing the republicans to agree on some issues and get things done in Washington. Bernie is a peace believing person- Much like Scandinavia. No new Wars would likely take place, allowing more problems here in the US to be solved.

Negatives: The Democrats may view him as a "Independent" candidate, and the democrats could consider running a second candidate- like Clinton, against Sanders. His Age is almost guaranteed to get in his way, if he wins a 2nd term he'd likely be in Frail health throughout.

Conclusion: Sanders is a candidate who has gained steam due to Clinton's demise, and is likely a frontrunner to become the democratic Nominee. He should be someone who would be a nice compromise guy between both parties- some of the republican states may go with the democrats in voting for Sanders. Sanders will likely serve 4 years in the White House- and in doing so bring Peaceful feelings to the United States, and alternatives to war that the democrats and maybe even some republicans will consider in the future.

Martin O'Malley- Biography
Age: 52
Previous Office: Governor of Maryland 2007-
Previous Runs: N/A

Positives: Knows how to lead and is really a under the radar potential candidate. Younger than the other 2 front runners.

Negatives: With Joe Biden considering a run, O'Malley's campaign could fall completely off a already tough attempt for him to win.

Conclusion: If Biden does not run, O'Malley will probably make some noise in the next few months before his campaign quickly falls apart.

Final Conclusion: Sanders may be the oldest, but he is likely the best chance for the democrats to win, however the democrats would likely have to run him un-opposed since otherwise will not fully side with the democrats. If such an agreement fails, the Democratic Vote will likely be split.

Final Pick: Bernie Sanders will be the democratic Nominee for President.

[Indian Empire]

Bernie Sanders becoming president will likely mean peace and non aggression short term- but it will likely allow the US to be a greater power in the future.

[Indian Empire]

The last one of these was locked for an insufficient OP just as I hit "reply" with my own response, so I'm starting it over.

Who do you support for the Democratic nomination for the U.S. Presidency? While Clinton seems a prohibitive favorite, Martin O'Malley and Jim Webb (one of whom has declared and the other of whom has expressed interest) provide experience and non-threatening moderate viewpoints to those suffering from Clinton fatigue, and Sanders has supporters who make up for in vigor and passion what they lack in numbers. I don't think that Biden is going to declare, but he's in the poll anyway, and while I like Chafee, I'm honestly confused as to what he thinks he's going to accomplish with this.

Me? I'm Sanders all the way, though if Clinton gets the nomination, I'll almost certainly vote for her against any of the GOP candidates.

What are your thoughts?

Nice to see some like minded democrats on NationStates! Not many in my current state of residence Kentucky however.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

The last one of these was locked for an insufficient OP just as I hit "reply" with my own response, so I'm starting it over.

Who do you support for the Democratic nomination for the U.S. Presidency? While Clinton seems a prohibitive favorite, Martin O'Malley and Jim Webb (one of whom has declared and the other of whom has expressed interest) provide experience and non-threatening moderate viewpoints to those suffering from Clinton fatigue, and Sanders has supporters who make up for in vigor and passion what they lack in numbers. I don't think that Biden is going to declare, but he's in the poll anyway, and while I like Chafee, I'm honestly confused as to what he thinks he's going to accomplish with this.

Me? I'm Sanders all the way, though if Clinton gets the nomination, I'll almost certainly vote for her against any of the GOP candidates.

What are your thoughts?

Nice to see some like minded democrats on NationStates! Not many in my current state of residence Kentucky however.

Network!

[Indian Empire]

Nice to see some like minded democrats on NationStates! Not many in my current state of residence Kentucky however.

Network!

True, but I meant we are the minority here.