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Postby Caribica » Sat May 30, 2015 2:08 pm

If I had to, I'd be a USAAC bomber pilot over Europe. You get a nice view of the French/German countryside from your "office" and if there's any trouble from the Luftwaffe your gunners and escorts will handle them. But of course there's no MP3 in 194X so you just have to imagine relaxing music or bring a gramophone.
My second choice would be a US army tank driver in the Pacific. Japanese tanks suck so there's not much to worry about and again, the gunner does the work.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Sat May 30, 2015 2:08 pm

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Genivaria wrote:And then you use German civilians as target practice.
Poor Berlin.

It's either I kill them or I get a bullet to the brain for going against orders. It's also revenge for the 7,000,000 or so civilians the Germans killed, so it kinda makes up for it.

13.7 million civilians in the USSR alone.
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Postby New Emphillon » Sat May 30, 2015 2:17 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
New Emphillon wrote:It's either I kill them or I get a bullet to the brain for going against orders. It's also revenge for the 7,000,000 or so civilians the Germans killed, so it kinda makes up for it.

13.7 million civilians in the USSR alone.

That sounds more like it. From the various sources that I read, the numbers usually vary between 7 and 20 million civilians killed in the USSR of the 28 million total deaths of the Soviet Union.

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Postby United Marxist Nations » Sat May 30, 2015 2:23 pm

New Emphillon wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:13.7 million civilians in the USSR alone.

That sounds more like it. From the various sources that I read, the numbers usually vary between 7 and 20 million civilians killed in the USSR of the 28 million total deaths of the Soviet Union.

Yeah, it was terrible what the Nazis did. And that doesn't even include the dead from Poland.
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Postby Filimons » Sat May 30, 2015 2:37 pm

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Postby New Emphillon » Sat May 30, 2015 2:42 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
New Emphillon wrote:That sounds more like it. From the various sources that I read, the numbers usually vary between 7 and 20 million civilians killed in the USSR of the 28 million total deaths of the Soviet Union.

Yeah, it was terrible what the Nazis did. And that doesn't even include the dead from Poland.

The Poles definitely suffered terribly under Nazi occupation. All those people dead for nothing other than being considered to be sub-human and inferior. And that applies to everyone that the Nazis targeted and sent to concentration camps. On the other hand, the Soviets raped, murdered, and pillaged several thousand German refugees as they tried to flee from them for nothing else but the fact that the refugees were of Germanic descent. They also could have helped the Polish during the Warsaw Uprising but failed to do so and then forced the country under its heel for another forty-five years. Both sides were evil and committed their share of atrocities, but the Nazis were definitely more devious than the Soviets.
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Postby Lydenburg » Sat May 30, 2015 2:51 pm

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Having to see combat? Eh, I reckon I'd want to be with UDF Armoured Cars' in Somalia 1941. Now those chaps knew how to have a good time. Plus they didn't have to fight half competent Germans.

Mopped up those idiot blackshirts in no time and enjoyed the rest of the war sunning themselves on some white Eritrean seashore.

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Postby Dray » Sat May 30, 2015 2:55 pm

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I was not aware that they used crossbows in World War II

They still do.

If I had to, I'd be one of those French countrysiders who joined, took Paris, then left again and went back to their farms.
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Postby Meryuma » Sat May 30, 2015 3:20 pm

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Postby Cetacea » Sat May 30, 2015 3:40 pm

I'd be part of a platoon of the Queen's Own Royal West Kent Regiment based in Walmington-on-Sea

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Postby Genivaria » Sat May 30, 2015 4:11 pm

New Emphillon wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:Yeah, it was terrible what the Nazis did. And that doesn't even include the dead from Poland.

The Poles definitely suffered terribly under Nazi occupation. All those people dead for nothing other than being considered to be sub-human and inferior. And that applies to everyone that the Nazis targeted and sent to concentration camps. On the other hand, the Soviets raped, murdered, and pillaged several thousand German refugees as they tried to flee from them for nothing else but the fact that the refugees were of Germanic descent. They also could have helped the Polish during the Warsaw Uprising but failed to do so and then forced the country under its heel for another forty-five years. Both sides were evil and committed their share of atrocities, but the Nazis were definitely more devious than the Soviets.

The Eastern Front was a real life case of Evil VS Evil and innocent civilians on both sides were caught in the crossover.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Sat May 30, 2015 4:16 pm

Genivaria wrote:
New Emphillon wrote:The Poles definitely suffered terribly under Nazi occupation. All those people dead for nothing other than being considered to be sub-human and inferior. And that applies to everyone that the Nazis targeted and sent to concentration camps. On the other hand, the Soviets raped, murdered, and pillaged several thousand German refugees as they tried to flee from them for nothing else but the fact that the refugees were of Germanic descent. They also could have helped the Polish during the Warsaw Uprising but failed to do so and then forced the country under its heel for another forty-five years. Both sides were evil and committed their share of atrocities, but the Nazis were definitely more devious than the Soviets.

The Eastern Front was a real life case of Evil VS Evil and innocent civilians on both sides were caught in the crossover.

It certainly was not an equal evil.
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Postby Genivaria » Sat May 30, 2015 4:21 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Genivaria wrote:The Eastern Front was a real life case of Evil VS Evil and innocent civilians on both sides were caught in the crossover.

It certainly was not an equal evil.

In what way?
Genocide? Check.
Political persecution? Check.
Death and Labor Camps? Check.

They weren't equally punished of course but that doesn't make the Soviets less guilty.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Sat May 30, 2015 4:23 pm

Genivaria wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:It certainly was not an equal evil.

In what way?
1) Genocide? Check.
2) Political persecution? Check.
3) Death and Labor Camps? Check.

They weren't equally punished of course but that doesn't make the Soviets less guilty.

1) Completely disproportionally (Nazi planned to kill 110 million people).
2) See above.
3) Soviets didn't have death camps.
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Postby Confederate Ramenia » Sat May 30, 2015 4:24 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Genivaria wrote:In what way?
1) Genocide? Check.
2) Political persecution? Check.
3) Death and Labor Camps? Check.

They weren't equally punished of course but that doesn't make the Soviets less guilty.

1) Completely disproportionally (Nazi planned to kill 110 million people).
2) See above.
3) Soviets didn't have death camps.

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Postby United Marxist Nations » Sat May 30, 2015 4:26 pm

Confederate Ramenia wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:1) Completely disproportionally (Nazi planned to kill 110 million people).
2) See above.
3) Soviets didn't have death camps.

Planned to

Out of which they did kill more than 30 million. And, yes, plans are a good way to decide how evil a group is.
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Postby Napkiraly » Sat May 30, 2015 4:39 pm

Top 3.
1) US Marine, preferably 1st Marine Division.
2) Canadian infantryman, Italian or Western Europe campaign.
3) Soviet tank gunner.

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Postby Napkiraly » Sat May 30, 2015 4:40 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Genivaria wrote:The Eastern Front was a real life case of Evil VS Evil and innocent civilians on both sides were caught in the crossover.

It certainly was not an equal evil.

Which doesn't take away from the fact that it was still Evil vs Evil. The Predator is less evil than the Xenomorph, doesn't make the Predator any less of a dickbat.

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Postby Benuty » Sat May 30, 2015 4:42 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:It certainly was not an equal evil.

Which doesn't take away from the fact that it was still Evil vs Evil. The Predator is less evil than the Xenomorph, doesn't make the Predator any less of a dickbat.

Technically the Predator is evil with standards (doesn't kill unarmed people).
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Postby Napkiraly » Sat May 30, 2015 4:45 pm

Benuty wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Which doesn't take away from the fact that it was still Evil vs Evil. The Predator is less evil than the Xenomorph, doesn't make the Predator any less of a dickbat.

Technically the Predator is evil with standards (doesn't kill unarmed people).

Or pregnant women. Indeed the Soviet Union during WWII was a lesser evil, but still evil nonetheless.
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Postby The Germanian states » Sat May 30, 2015 4:52 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Benuty wrote:Technically the Predator is evil with standards (doesn't kill unarmed people).

Or pregnant women. Indeed the Soviet Union during WWII was a lesser evil, but still evil nonetheless.


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Postby Mefpan » Sat May 30, 2015 4:55 pm

Can I opt for "Wherever Jack Churchill, that crazy fucking bastard, happens to be at that point" as combat theatre, obviously on the side of the British army?
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Postby Napkiraly » Sat May 30, 2015 4:57 pm

Caribica wrote:If I had to, I'd be a USAAC bomber pilot over Europe. You get a nice view of the French/German countryside from your "office" and if there's any trouble from the Luftwaffe your gunners and escorts will handle them. But of course there's no MP3 in 194X so you just have to imagine relaxing music or bring a gramophone.
My second choice would be a US army tank driver in the Pacific. Japanese tanks suck so there's not much to worry about and again, the gunner does the work.

You know bomber pilots had one of the most dangerous jobs during the war right? It wasn't a picnic.

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Postby Napkiraly » Sat May 30, 2015 4:57 pm

The Germanian states wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Or pregnant women. Indeed the Soviet Union during WWII was a lesser evil, but still evil nonetheless.


"Wrong, Hitler is the 3rd most hated man in History but Stalin is the 2nd. The Red army Looted the Germans and raped their women killing civilians in their path."

Are you going to tell me that the Nazis didn't loot or rape?

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