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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri May 29, 2015 8:52 pm

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Considering that for some their gang may provide better protection (that is not true for me by the way), and are less likely to cause them harm, that might be one reason why there tend to be so many gangs in high poverty areas. I find it interesting that you are now trying to get away from explaining and sourcing your comments.

I mean unless you want me to fight white community leaders not calling police and an occupying force I don't know what more sources you want because I can find the "Twitter hack" that left the Baltimore DA not knowing how she favorited anti cop and anti white tweets

White community leaders don't call cops an occupying force because cops aren't occupying white communities. Plus cops tend to be a hell of a lot nicer to them than minorities.
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Postby Osterreich-Bayern » Fri May 29, 2015 8:53 pm

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Osterreich-Bayern wrote:I mean unless you want me to fight white community leaders not calling police and an occupying force I don't know what more sources you want because I can find the "Twitter hack" that left the Baltimore DA not knowing how she favorited anti cop and anti white tweets


I already gave an example, the Nevada rancher and his cattle. I want a source that African American leaders are significantly different from ...white leaders. Not one leader at one point, making a claim that is similar to those made by some Caucasian leaders.

Again I have made very few claims, I am asking you to back up your statements. So far you have failed.

He is not as powerful or as respected as Jesse Jackson in respected communities it's inusltinh you can even compare their influence
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Postby Llamalandia » Fri May 29, 2015 8:53 pm

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Llamalandia wrote:Instituitional racism and problematic black culture are not mutually exclusive you know. That said, by and large the only remnants of "institutional racism" seem to stem more from implicit rather than any intentional and overt racism. (perhaps excepting the way big city cops behave and those forced to act as revenue collection agents).

"I'd riot too." Is that a quote from Dr. King or Ghandi?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/2 ... 60380.html

Fuck Gandhi. I'd thought his shittiness was common knowledge by now.


Wow, seriously dude, I mean that is so harsh I have yet to bother reading your link. I mean the man may not have been perfect, but for crying out lout, he is practically the George Washington of India. I mean, Jefferson and Washington owned slaves and yeah, we should condemn that, but people don't generally go around saying "Fuck Washington" and "Fuck Jefferson". Ok now I'll take a look at the link.

Edit: ok read the link. I don't think King actually condoned or encouraged rioting though. Sounds more like he just understands why some people might do it.
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Postby Neutraligon » Fri May 29, 2015 8:54 pm

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I already gave an example, the Nevada rancher and his cattle. I want a source that African American leaders are significantly different from ...white leaders. Not one leader at one point, making a claim that is similar to those made by some Caucasian leaders.

Again I have made very few claims, I am asking you to back up your statements. So far you have failed.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/25/us/michae ... index.html


Again this supports your claim how? This was a man overcome with emotion who was just told that his step-son would not get what he would consider justice, one pushed far beyond reason by a police force that has for decades been a problem in his neighborhood. I could look to college kids in party towns, many of whom are Caucasian if you want.
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Prussia-Steinbach wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/2 ... 60380.html

Fuck Gandhi. I'd thought his shittiness was common knowledge by now.


Wow, seriously dude, I mean that is so harsh I have yet to bother reading your link. I mean the man may not have been perfect, but for crying out lout, he is practically the George Washington of India. I mean, Jefferson and Washington owned slaves and yeah, we should condemn that, but people don't generally go around saying "Fuck Washington" and "Fuck Jefferson". Ok now I'll take a look at the link.

The link is to an article about MLK's views on riots. Don't be scared.

Gandhi was a pedophile and racist. Fuck Gandhi.
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Postby Neutraligon » Fri May 29, 2015 8:56 pm

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I already gave an example, the Nevada rancher and his cattle. I want a source that African American leaders are significantly different from ...white leaders. Not one leader at one point, making a claim that is similar to those made by some Caucasian leaders.

Again I have made very few claims, I am asking you to back up your statements. So far you have failed.

He is not as powerful or as respected as Jesse Jackson in respected communities it's inusltinh you can even compare their influence


Really, he certainly became a leader for a specific crowd. And how is it any more insulting then the claims you have made? Jesse Jackson was making a claim about a specific group in a specific situation where they were indeed acting like an occupying force.
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Again this supports your claim how? This was a man overcome with emotion who was just told that his step-son would not get what he would consider justice, one pushed far beyond reason by a police force that has for decades been a problem in his neighborhood. I could look to college kids in party towns, many of whom are Caucasian if you want.

You said I couldn't find a leader inciting violence I find it easily may I add and you denenouce because "emotions" some things are more important than that and a rational person wouldn't even think of
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Postby Osterreich-Bayern » Fri May 29, 2015 8:57 pm

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Wow, seriously dude, I mean that is so harsh I have yet to bother reading your link. I mean the man may not have been perfect, but for crying out lout, he is practically the George Washington of India. I mean, Jefferson and Washington owned slaves and yeah, we should condemn that, but people don't generally go around saying "Fuck Washington" and "Fuck Jefferson". Ok now I'll take a look at the link.

The link is to an article about MLK's views on riots. Don't be scared.

Gandhi was a pedophile and racist. Fuck Gandhi.

No one in history lives up to today's ideals like the man said Lincoln often said how blacks were unequal to whites
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Postby Neutraligon » Fri May 29, 2015 8:58 pm

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Again this supports your claim how? This was a man overcome with emotion who was just told that his step-son would not get what he would consider justice, one pushed far beyond reason by a police force that has for decades been a problem in his neighborhood. I could look to college kids in party towns, many of whom are Caucasian if you want.

You said I couldn't find a leader inciting violence I find it easily may I add and you denenouce because "emotions" some things are more important than that and a rational person wouldn't even think of


Calling a group an occupying force does not incite violence, and no that is not what I said. I asked you to provide evidence that African American leaders are different from Caucasian leaders. People are not always rational, especially when they have been dealing with a shit police force for as long as they have.
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Postby Llamalandia » Fri May 29, 2015 8:58 pm

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Wow, seriously dude, I mean that is so harsh I have yet to bother reading your link. I mean the man may not have been perfect, but for crying out lout, he is practically the George Washington of India. I mean, Jefferson and Washington owned slaves and yeah, we should condemn that, but people don't generally go around saying "Fuck Washington" and "Fuck Jefferson". Ok now I'll take a look at the link.

The link is to an article about MLK's views on riots. Don't be scared.

Gandhi was a pedophile and racist. Fuck Gandhi.


Yeah, knew he was racist. Thought he was celibate though. Plus, as far as I can tell there was never any concrete proof, just accusations. I mean, he is at worst on Par with wacko jacko. At worst.

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri May 29, 2015 8:58 pm

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Prussia-Steinbach wrote:The link is to an article about MLK's views on riots. Don't be scared.

Gandhi was a pedophile and racist. Fuck Gandhi.

No one in history lives up to today's ideals like the man said Lincoln often said how blacks were unequal to whites

Agreed, I fucking hate Lincoln, for more reasons than that.

No sympathy for racists. Or pedophiles. Two of the worst kinds of people.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri May 29, 2015 8:59 pm

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Prussia-Steinbach wrote:The link is to an article about MLK's views on riots. Don't be scared.

Gandhi was a pedophile and racist. Fuck Gandhi.


Yeah, knew he was racist. Thought he was celibate though. Plus, as far as I can tell there was never any concrete proof, just accusations. I mean, he is at worst on Par with wacko jacko. At worst.

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri May 29, 2015 9:00 pm

Osterreich, going to reply to my various other posts or admit defeat on the whole "black culture" thing?
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Postby Llamalandia » Fri May 29, 2015 9:00 pm

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Prussia-Steinbach wrote:The link is to an article about MLK's views on riots. Don't be scared.

Gandhi was a pedophile and racist. Fuck Gandhi.

No one in history lives up to today's ideals like the man said Lincoln often said how blacks were unequal to whites


Yeah, but no one goes around saying Fuck Lincoln either. Thats all. Not saying you can't just that you ought not.

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri May 29, 2015 9:00 pm

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Osterreich-Bayern wrote:No one in history lives up to today's ideals like the man said Lincoln often said how blacks were unequal to whites


Yeah, but no one goes around saying Fuck Lincoln either. Thats all. Not saying you can't just that you ought not.

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Postby Neutraligon » Fri May 29, 2015 9:03 pm

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Osterreich-Bayern wrote:No one in history lives up to today's ideals like the man said Lincoln often said how blacks were unequal to whites


Yeah, but no one goes around saying Fuck Lincoln either. Thats all. Not saying you can't just that you ought not.


For all the good the Lincoln did, his own ideology when it came to race was disgusting.
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Postby Llamalandia » Fri May 29, 2015 9:04 pm

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Osterreich-Bayern wrote:He is not as powerful or as respected as Jesse Jackson in respected communities it's inusltinh you can even compare their influence


Really, he certainly became a leader for a specific crowd. And how is it any more insulting then the claims you have made? Jesse Jackson was making a claim about a specific group in a specific situation where they were indeed acting like an occupying force.


Maybe. but that is kinda their job. plus they were taking orders from a black mayor right? I mean, 99% well 95% of this "occupying force" is made up of people willing to put on a uniform that already makes them a target and go try and protect the some of the very people who now see them all as only racists and thugs. Perhaps calling them an occupying force, doesn't necessarily incite violence, but it certainly seems to give some cover to anyone who wants riot and harm cops to later claim inspiration from it.
Besides, Jesse Jackson and Sharpton have zero credibility if anyone is actually listening to these morons, well maybe heavy handed policing really is needed.

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Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Osterreich, going to reply to my various other posts or admit defeat on the whole "black culture" thing?

I have responded to everything with multiple sources you mentioned one radical rancher denounced by majority of the white community while i mentioned two of the most infulteional members of the black community directly incite violence
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri May 29, 2015 9:05 pm

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Yeah, but no one goes around saying Fuck Lincoln either. Thats all. Not saying you can't just that you ought not.


For all the good the Lincoln did, his own ideology when it came to race was disgusting.

And should not be ignored.

That's my point here. Not only do I dislike pacifism, Gandhi had a lot of bad aspects. Like, a lot. Like, really bad ones. Not mildly contentious. Like, disgusting, and terrible.
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Yeah, but no one goes around saying Fuck Lincoln either. Thats all. Not saying you can't just that you ought not.


For all the good the Lincoln did, his own ideology when it came to race was disgusting.


Meh, product of his time. Relative to many people heck most people, he was pretty darn progressive.

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri May 29, 2015 9:05 pm

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Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Osterreich, going to reply to my various other posts or admit defeat on the whole "black culture" thing?

I have responded to everything with multiple sources you mentioned one radical rancher denounced by majority of the white community while i mentioned two of the most infulteional members of the black community directly incite violence

Bullshit, I never mentioned the ranch guy. And bullshit, no they aren't. You didn't respond to but one of my posts on the matter.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri May 29, 2015 9:06 pm

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For all the good the Lincoln did, his own ideology when it came to race was disgusting.


Meh, product of his time. Relative to many people heck most people, he was pretty darn progressive.

White separatism isn't better than "civilize the black man" imo.
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Postby Osterreich-Bayern » Fri May 29, 2015 9:06 pm

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Yeah, but no one goes around saying Fuck Lincoln either. Thats all. Not saying you can't just that you ought not.


For all the good the Lincoln did, his own ideology when it came to race was disgusting.

My last comment is with a democrat black mayor black DA black police chef democrat governor democrat senators tell me how the "instutional racism" is still a huge probelm
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Postby Osterreich-Bayern » Fri May 29, 2015 9:07 pm

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For all the good the Lincoln did, his own ideology when it came to race was disgusting.

And should not be ignored.

That's my point here. Not only do I dislike pacifism, Gandhi had a lot of bad aspects. Like, a lot. Like, really bad ones. Not mildly contentious. Like, disgusting, and terrible.

You despise pacifism... Do U want a civil war before every descion that way no one loses jesus man
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Fri May 29, 2015 9:08 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
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For all the good the Lincoln did, his own ideology when it came to race was disgusting.

And should not be ignored.

That's my point here. Not only do I dislike pacifism, Gandhi had a lot of bad aspects. Like, a lot. Like, really bad ones. Not mildly contentious. Like, disgusting, and terrible.


Pacifism should not be a means to a political end, but the end itself. It should also be a personal conviction, not a set of rules. This is basically where Gandhi's pacifism differs from mine.

Anyway, please swerve back on topic. The topic here is O'Reilly and his outright lies regarding his position on the Syrian Civil War.
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