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Postby Need a Name » Sun May 17, 2015 7:52 am

Roderia wrote:Look, I find the no swastika rule stupid too. I am not a Nazi it still pisses me off, especially seeing as how Communist symbols are allowed, and they easily killed more than any Nazi ever could have dreamed to. It is a rule that is completely idiotic. I always say that if something offends you, send a written complaint, on paper, directly to the nearest garbage bin or fire, don't try to censor people and don't have a bitchy-winge because someone used a picture with a hooked cross on it on the internet.

*looks at communist manifesto* Yup, mhm, I don't think Marx mentioned that he wanted millions of people to die.
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Postby Roderia » Sun May 17, 2015 7:52 am

Jagellion wrote:Nazis were the cause of one of the worst genocides ever, might even be the worst but maybe there were more, the bloodiest war ever, the holacaust, and 56 million deaths. Also probably more deaths from starvation after the loss of food after ww2

So, no wonder that they don't allow swastikas

Yet they allow Sickles and Hammers, and Red Stars.
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Postby Laanvia » Sun May 17, 2015 7:52 am

Solitan wrote:
New Babylonia wrote:How do you think i feel, as a Libertarian Socialist and Harmonist, when i see a Fascist with a disgusting genocidal ideology?

Well, i'm sure as hell not letting off party poppers. There's a number of things i could say here, but i won't. It wouldn't be nice, and the mods wouldn't be nice in turn about that. So i'll just leave it with this; What the fuck makes you promote genocide of anyone or anything? Seriously, what the fuck man?


Nowhere in my post did I promote genocide. Please read what I say before you comment...

You support despicable men who committed genocide. Your questions have been answered many times by moderators. Stop wasting your breath and acting like you're a victim.
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Need a name wrote:
Roderia wrote:Look, I find the no swastika rule stupid too. I am not a Nazi it still pisses me off, especially seeing as how Communist symbols are allowed, and they easily killed more than any Nazi ever could have dreamed to. It is a rule that is completely idiotic. I always say that if something offends you, send a written complaint, on paper, directly to the nearest garbage bin or fire, don't try to censor people and don't have a bitchy-winge because someone used a picture with a hooked cross on it on the internet.

*looks at communist manifesto* Yup, mhm, I don't think Marx mentioned that he wanted millions of people to die.

He never did. It was the people who followed his system that ended up killing people.
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Postby New Babylonia » Sun May 17, 2015 7:53 am

Need a name wrote:
Roderia wrote:Look, I find the no swastika rule stupid too. I am not a Nazi it still pisses me off, especially seeing as how Communist symbols are allowed, and they easily killed more than any Nazi ever could have dreamed to. It is a rule that is completely idiotic. I always say that if something offends you, send a written complaint, on paper, directly to the nearest garbage bin or fire, don't try to censor people and don't have a bitchy-winge because someone used a picture with a hooked cross on it on the internet.

*looks at communist manifesto* Yup, mhm, I don't think Marx mentioned that he wanted millions of people to die.

And this is why the real idea of Communism isn't disgusting and utter shit. "Mass genocide" Was not a step in creating a Communist government. Other people, pretty obviously not Marx, decided it should be. Like our good ol' friend Stalin.
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Postby Roderia » Sun May 17, 2015 7:54 am

Need a name wrote:
Roderia wrote:Look, I find the no swastika rule stupid too. I am not a Nazi it still pisses me off, especially seeing as how Communist symbols are allowed, and they easily killed more than any Nazi ever could have dreamed to. It is a rule that is completely idiotic. I always say that if something offends you, send a written complaint, on paper, directly to the nearest garbage bin or fire, don't try to censor people and don't have a bitchy-winge because someone used a picture with a hooked cross on it on the internet.

*looks at communist manifesto* Yup, mhm, I don't think Marx mentioned that he wanted millions of people to die.

Yeah, but millions of people still died. You can't just let something like that go because "Karl Marx for sure didn't mean for that to happen".
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Postby Solitan » Sun May 17, 2015 7:54 am

I'll be honest. I expected this hate. You have all grown up in societies which say it is WRONG to be a National Socialist or even right-wing.

You then assume that every one of us supports genocide, that we all share the same ideal. National Socialism is a VAGUE ideology. It simply combines pride and socialist views. ANYTHING can be National Socialist, and have no connection to the Third Reich or the Nazi Party.

But let me tell you something. No person, government, union, alliance or pact has the authority or right to tell you or anyone else what is right and what is wrong.

There is no right and wrong. Say I kill a person? Which universal law do I break? None, because no one has the right to set that law. It's like human rights, realistically speaking, we gave them to ourselves so they aren't really valid.

You have to think on a much wider scale to determine what you approve of in detail. If you say something is wrong. Someone somewhere will think it is right. And NEITHER of you will be able to prove your views correct, because neither of them are.

I can't make this any clearer, so I'll have to rely on the more intelligent amongst you to actually think this through, and generally ignore the keyboard warriors believing exactly what they were taught in school. An outside view. You know nothing of the Party or the Reich unless you look at it from the inside.
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Postby Multiversal Domanaeii » Sun May 17, 2015 7:55 am

New Babylonia wrote:
Solitan wrote:Mainly the bit about no swastikas, yes, I am a National Socialist. But not like those idiots you find in America and such, I mean the National Socialism the soldiers of the Wehrmacht fought and died for. And the people the Wehrmacht fought are allowed to wave their flags and symbols which are so anti-German simply because they won.

I am expecting this thread to be locked because of the one-sidedness of the game.

My general point is that a Jew may feel offended when he/she sees a Swastika, but how do you think I feel when I see a Star of David on my screen?

"Victory requires no explanation. Defeat allows none." Understand this, then think about what your societies and governments have told you about WWII. Have they ever taught you the point of view of the Reich? No. So who are you to judge them?

How do you think i feel, as a Libertarian Socialist and Harmonist, when i see a Fascist with a disgusting genocidal ideology?

Well, i'm sure as hell not letting off party poppers. There's a number of things i could say here, but i won't. It wouldn't be nice, and the mods wouldn't be nice in turn about that. So i'll just leave it with this; What the fuck makes you promote genocide of anyone or anything? Seriously, what the fuck man?


The hell is a Harmonist?
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Postby Jagellion » Sun May 17, 2015 7:55 am

Roderia wrote:
Jagellion wrote:Nazis were the cause of one of the worst genocides ever, might even be the worst but maybe there were more, the bloodiest war ever, the holacaust, and 56 million deaths. Also probably more deaths from starvation after the loss of food after ww2

So, no wonder that they don't allow swastikas

Yet they allow Sickles and Hammers, and Red Stars.

Yes, communism is terrible, but the original idea by Karl Marx was not bad, it was just dictators like Lenin, Stalin, and Zedong, and many more used it in a terrible way. I'm not a communist and I see your point
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Postby Need a Name » Sun May 17, 2015 7:56 am

Cyrisnia wrote:
Need a name wrote:*looks at communist manifesto* Yup, mhm, I don't think Marx mentioned that he wanted millions of people to die.

He never did. It was the people who followed his system that ended up killing people.

I don't think it really mattered that the people who committed the atrocities were "communist", it would have happened regardless.
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Postby Imperial New Vegas » Sun May 17, 2015 7:56 am

This thread got derailed fast.
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Postby Valaran » Sun May 17, 2015 7:56 am

Solitan wrote:I'll be honest. I expected this hate. You have all grown up in societies which say it is WRONG to be a National Socialist or even right-wing.

You then assume that every one of us supports genocide, that we all share the same ideal. National Socialism is a VAGUE ideology. It simply combines pride and socialist views. ANYTHING can be National Socialist, and have no connection to the Third Reich or the Nazi Party.

But let me tell you something. No person, government, union, alliance or pact has the authority or right to tell you or anyone else what is right and what is wrong.

There is no right and wrong. Say I kill a person? Which universal law do I break? None, because no one has the right to set that law. It's like human rights, realistically speaking, we gave them to ourselves so they aren't really valid.

You have to think on a much wider scale to determine what you approve of in detail. If you say something is wrong. Someone somewhere will think it is right. And NEITHER of you will be able to prove your views correct, because neither of them are.

I can't make this any clearer, so I'll have to rely on the more intelligent amongst you to actually think this through, and generally ignore the keyboard warriors believing exactly what they were taught in school. An outside view. You know nothing of the Party or the Reich unless you look at it from the inside.



What lovely moral relativist bullshit.
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Postby New Babylonia » Sun May 17, 2015 7:57 am

Jagellion wrote:
Roderia wrote:Yet they allow Sickles and Hammers, and Red Stars.

Yes, communism is terrible, but the original idea by Karl Marx was not bad, it was just dictators like Lenin, Stalin, and Zedong, and many more used it in a terrible way. I'm not a communist and I see your point

Woah woah woah. Learn your shit. Lenin did not ever, nor did he have any intention, to commit any sort of genocide like Stalin did. It's always why he appointed Trotsky as his successor, because he did not trust Stalin.

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New Babylonia wrote:How do you think i feel, as a Libertarian Socialist and Harmonist, when i see a Fascist with a disgusting genocidal ideology?

Well, i'm sure as hell not letting off party poppers. There's a number of things i could say here, but i won't. It wouldn't be nice, and the mods wouldn't be nice in turn about that. So i'll just leave it with this; What the fuck makes you promote genocide of anyone or anything? Seriously, what the fuck man?


The hell is a Harmonist?

I'm just going to assume as i usually do, that if you knew, you would smash your face into a desk due to its origin.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun May 17, 2015 7:57 am

Solitan wrote:I'll be honest. I expected this hate. You have all grown up in societies which say it is WRONG to be a National Socialist or even right-wing.

You then assume that every one of us supports genocide, that we all share the same ideal. National Socialism is a VAGUE ideology. It simply combines pride and socialist views. ANYTHING can be National Socialist, and have no connection to the Third Reich or the Nazi Party.

But let me tell you something. No person, government, union, alliance or pact has the authority or right to tell you or anyone else what is right and what is wrong.

There is no right and wrong. Say I kill a person? Which universal law do I break? None, because no one has the right to set that law. It's like human rights, realistically speaking, we gave them to ourselves so they aren't really valid.

You have to think on a much wider scale to determine what you approve of in detail. If you say something is wrong. Someone somewhere will think it is right. And NEITHER of you will be able to prove your views correct, because neither of them are.

I can't make this any clearer, so I'll have to rely on the more intelligent amongst you to actually think this through, and generally ignore the keyboard warriors believing exactly what they were taught in school. An outside view. You know nothing of the Party or the Reich unless you look at it from the inside.


You obviously have no idea what real National Socialism is and what it calls for. Concepts like Drang nach osten are pretty key concepts to it.
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Postby Valaran » Sun May 17, 2015 7:57 am

Imperial New Vegas wrote:This thread got derailed fast.



Was that surprising though?
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Sun May 17, 2015 7:57 am

Imperial New Vegas wrote:This thread got derailed fast.

It was never on the rails. :roll:
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Postby Imperial New Vegas » Sun May 17, 2015 7:58 am

Solitan wrote:I'll be honest. I expected this hate. You have all grown up in societies which say it is WRONG to be a National Socialist or even right-wing.

You then assume that every one of us supports genocide, that we all share the same ideal. National Socialism is a VAGUE ideology. It simply combines pride and socialist views. ANYTHING can be National Socialist, and have no connection to the Third Reich or the Nazi Party.

But let me tell you something. No person, government, union, alliance or pact has the authority or right to tell you or anyone else what is right and what is wrong.

There is no right and wrong. Say I kill a person? Which universal law do I break? None, because no one has the right to set that law. It's like human rights, realistically speaking, we gave them to ourselves so they aren't really valid.

You have to think on a much wider scale to determine what you approve of in detail. If you say something is wrong. Someone somewhere will think it is right. And NEITHER of you will be able to prove your views correct, because neither of them are.

I can't make this any clearer, so I'll have to rely on the more intelligent amongst you to actually think this through, and generally ignore the keyboard warriors believing exactly what they were taught in school. An outside view. You know nothing of the Party or the Reich unless you look at it from the inside.


It was a jumbled, unorganized mess of people vying for power and trying get in favor with Hitler.

It seems Nazi propaganda is still affective to this day.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun May 17, 2015 7:58 am

Kaboomlandia wrote:
Imperial New Vegas wrote:This thread got derailed fast.

It was never on the rails. :roll:

It was a burnt out wreck lying by the river bed.
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Postby New Babylonia » Sun May 17, 2015 7:58 am

Solitan wrote:I'll be honest. I expected this hate. You have all grown up in societies which say it is WRONG to be a National Socialist or even right-wing.

You then assume that every one of us supports genocide, that we all share the same ideal. National Socialism is a VAGUE ideology. It simply combines pride and socialist views. ANYTHING can be National Socialist, and have no connection to the Third Reich or the Nazi Party.

But let me tell you something. No person, government, union, alliance or pact has the authority or right to tell you or anyone else what is right and what is wrong.

There is no right and wrong. Say I kill a person? Which universal law do I break? None, because no one has the right to set that law. It's like human rights, realistically speaking, we gave them to ourselves so they aren't really valid.

You have to think on a much wider scale to determine what you approve of in detail. If you say something is wrong. Someone somewhere will think it is right. And NEITHER of you will be able to prove your views correct, because neither of them are.

I can't make this any clearer, so I'll have to rely on the more intelligent amongst you to actually think this through, and generally ignore the keyboard warriors believing exactly what they were taught in school. An outside view. You know nothing of the Party or the Reich unless you look at it from the inside.

Lolno. Nice try.

National Socialism = Nazism. Really, it does. It's a form of Fascism. A very bad form that's even worse than the normal form.
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Postby Need a Name » Sun May 17, 2015 7:58 am

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Postby Solitan » Sun May 17, 2015 7:58 am

Valaran wrote:
Solitan wrote:I'll be honest. I expected this hate. You have all grown up in societies which say it is WRONG to be a National Socialist or even right-wing.

You then assume that every one of us supports genocide, that we all share the same ideal. National Socialism is a VAGUE ideology. It simply combines pride and socialist views. ANYTHING can be National Socialist, and have no connection to the Third Reich or the Nazi Party.

But let me tell you something. No person, government, union, alliance or pact has the authority or right to tell you or anyone else what is right and what is wrong.

There is no right and wrong. Say I kill a person? Which universal law do I break? None, because no one has the right to set that law. It's like human rights, realistically speaking, we gave them to ourselves so they aren't really valid.

You have to think on a much wider scale to determine what you approve of in detail. If you say something is wrong. Someone somewhere will think it is right. And NEITHER of you will be able to prove your views correct, because neither of them are.

I can't make this any clearer, so I'll have to rely on the more intelligent amongst you to actually think this through, and generally ignore the keyboard warriors believing exactly what they were taught in school. An outside view. You know nothing of the Party or the Reich unless you look at it from the inside.



What lovely moral relativist bullshit.


It's not moralist, it is a philosophical view which quite frankly carries more truth in it than any ideology implanted to peoples skulls on Earth. Whatever we do on Earth, plant a tree or kill 100,000,000 people, is insignificant. The universe can't judge, it doesn't care, it won't change anything. Everyone on Earth could die and so what?
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Postby Cyrisnia » Sun May 17, 2015 7:58 am

Kaboomlandia wrote:
Imperial New Vegas wrote:This thread got derailed fast.

It was never on the rails. :roll:

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Postby Valaran » Sun May 17, 2015 7:58 am

Imperial New Vegas wrote:
It was a jumbled, unorganized mess of people vying for power and trying get in favor with Hitler.

It seems Nazi propaganda is still affective to this day.



Well, that and edginess.

Stir and mix.
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Postby Laanvia » Sun May 17, 2015 7:59 am

Solitan wrote:I'll be honest. I expected this hate. You have all grown up in societies which say it is WRONG to be a National Socialist or even right-wing.

You then assume that every one of us supports genocide, that we all share the same ideal. National Socialism is a VAGUE ideology. It simply combines pride and socialist views. ANYTHING can be National Socialist, and have no connection to the Third Reich or the Nazi Party.

But let me tell you something. No person, government, union, alliance or pact has the authority or right to tell you or anyone else what is right and what is wrong.

There is no right and wrong. Say I kill a person? Which universal law do I break? None, because no one has the right to set that law. It's like human rights, realistically speaking, we gave them to ourselves so they aren't really valid.

You have to think on a much wider scale to determine what you approve of in detail. If you say something is wrong. Someone somewhere will think it is right. And NEITHER of you will be able to prove your views correct, because neither of them are.

I can't make this any clearer, so I'll have to rely on the more intelligent amongst you to actually think this through, and generally ignore the keyboard warriors believing exactly what they were taught in school. An outside view. You know nothing of the Party or the Reich unless you look at it from the inside.

1. From what you're offended by, you look like you support genocide.
2. I'm pretty sure a government has the authority to say what's right and wrong. :lol2:
3. There isn't a law to prohibit killing? Are you sure?

I think you're just here to provoke a reaction out of NSers.
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