LGBT Rights & Issues Thread, V3

[Vassenor]

Lesbian teen asked to prove gender, ejected from McDonald’s for using women’s toilet

[Val Halla]

Lesbian teen asked to prove gender, ejected from McDonald’s for using women’s toilet

That's incredibly bizarre

[Wallenburg]

Lesbian teen asked to prove gender, ejected from McDonald’s for using women’s toilet

Okay, I can see how the manager mistook her for a guy, but really? You're going to call the police?

On an unrelated note, I tried to get a table at California Pizza Kitchen yesterday, and I'm pretty sure the hostess mistook me for being transgender. Not sure why she did though. I'm a manly man!

[Sungai Pusat]

Lesbian teen asked to prove gender, ejected from McDonald’s for using women’s toilet

It's going to sound weird, but I'm now concentrating more on why they decided to use her/one of her selfies as the picture to end the article on. (Or, at the least, to give before the final bit of the article)

It seems rather unnecessary to the situation that the writer is reporting on.

[The Flutterlands]

I believe that everyone deserves the same inherent rights as a person, not legal rights granted by any one sovereign state on this planet or "Holy" rights granted/dictated by any supposedly sacred book. No I believe that regards of whatever color you may be, whatever gender you are, wherever you come from, whatever gender you happen to favor and so forth; there is a moniker that science classifies every person on the planet as. What is this label they give us? Oh correct, human being, the human race. I hope that sounds familiar.

Now for those of you who may be inclined to find a form of "Holy" writing as a solid work of non-fiction, when you see something like "Homosexual's are an abomination", before you preach this yourself. Stop and think, even with what this book I believe says, besides personal preference what makes a Homosexual different than me? Are they another species? No. Do they come from another planet? No. Then ask yourself, or if your really Religious ask "God", and say "Then what oh Almighty Father, makes them any different from me?" And if you get an answer you could either be crazy or have somehow destroyed the fabric of reality.

We as humans strive to give ourselves individuality and uniqueness which in turn divides us. What we all must remember is that we may be different and be our own person, but also that we are all just the same in how we were built (I'm talking genetics and being a human being here not about any physical characteristics) and we are all the same species. Uniqueness can breed hatred when one strives to believe themselves more unique than another, whereas if everybody were to say recognize that we are all human, we are all the same yet what we do to with ourselves on the road of life is what makes us unique, if we just stopped hating people because they look different or have different preferences, imagine what we could do as a species.

When it comes down to it, yes there should be LGBT rights but they should not have to be specified separately from the rights of others. I mean look at the United States, where in their Constitution does it say you can only be married if you are a male-female couple. No one group should have to have their rights and freedoms separately identified, no matter where you are. In America for example; they say Freedom and Justice for all, then shouldn't every citizen be covered with one law instead of groups needing to have their freedoms granted a decade later with a special law.


Hands up anyone who agrees with this though process or at least followed the whole way through

Agreed.

[Grenartia]

Lesbian teen asked to prove gender, ejected from McDonald’s for using women’s toilet

The shitty consequences of these bathroom bills.

[Vassenor]

Lesbian teen asked to prove gender, ejected from McDonald’s for using women’s toilet

The shitty consequences of these bathroom bills.

This wasn't even the result of a bathroom bill, unless the British government passed one while I wasn't paying attention.

[Anywhere Else But Here]

The shitty consequences of these bathroom bills.

This wasn't even the result of a bathroom bill, unless the British government passed one while I wasn't paying attention.

Worth noting that (AFAIK) there is no law enforcing gender segregation in toilets in the UK, just social convention, so calling the police would have been entirely pointless even if that girl had been a seven foot bodybuilder with a Gandalf beard. And since denying service without good reason would be a breach of the Equality Act, the only possible legal consequence would be McDonalds getting sued. I would have stayed put and insisted that they call the police.

[Nature-Spirits]

This wasn't even the result of a bathroom bill, unless the British government passed one while I wasn't paying attention.

Worth noting that (AFAIK) there is no law enforcing gender segregation in toilets in the UK, just social convention, so calling the police would have been entirely pointless even if that girl had been a seven foot bodybuilder with a Gandalf beard. And since denying service without good reason would be a breach of the Equality Act, the only possible legal consequence would be McDonalds getting sued. I would have stayed put and insisted that they call the police.

Unfortunately, some police are dickwads and arrest people for things that aren't illegal. They don't always know the law as well as they should.

[Salandriagado]

This wasn't even the result of a bathroom bill, unless the British government passed one while I wasn't paying attention.

Worth noting that (AFAIK) there is no law enforcing gender segregation in toilets in the UK, just social convention, so calling the police would have been entirely pointless even if that girl had been a seven foot bodybuilder with a Gandalf beard. And since denying service without good reason would be a breach of the Equality Act, the only possible legal consequence would be McDonalds getting sued. I would have stayed put and insisted that they call the police.

Hell, my local swimming pool has had gender neutral toilets and changing rooms since the early 2000s, at the very least, and we've just finished redoing our scout hut with gender neutral toilets.

[Sungai Pusat]

Apparently, having minorities/generally disadvantaged individuals helps improve the market price of your company's stock...?

And on the other hand, John Kasich and telling discriminated LGBTs to get over it.

[Renewed Imperial Germany]

And on the other hand, John Kasich and telling discriminated LGBTs to get over it.

Ugh. There is no sane person in the GOP room anymore.

[Sungai Pusat]

And on the other hand, John Kasich and telling discriminated LGBTs to get over it.

Ugh. There is no sane person in the GOP room anymore.

Regarding this issue?

I'm not even sure there was one to begin with.

[The New Falkland Islands]

And on the other hand, John Kasich and telling discriminated LGBTs to get over it.

Ugh. There is no sane person in the GOP room anymore.

I second that. Hey i know you...

[Wallenburg]

And on the other hand, John Kasich and telling discriminated LGBTs to get over it.

And he's the "moderate"...

[Sungai Pusat]

And on the other hand, John Kasich and telling discriminated LGBTs to get over it.

And he's the "moderate"...

Moderate my ass.

I guess I'll give him this; he's still somewhat willing to inch anywhere but the denial of rights to LGBTs.

...which actually is a useful analogy for what the entire Republican Party seems to have become recently.

[Oneracon]

And on the other hand, John Kasich and telling discriminated LGBTs to get over it.

And he's the "moderate"...

Compared to Trump and Cruz, he definitely is. Which goes to show the sorry state of the Republican Party...

[Destiny Island]

And on the other hand, John Kasich and telling discriminated LGBTs to get over it.

Ugh. There is no sane person in the GOP room anymore.

McCain?

[Val Halla]

Ugh. There is no sane person in the GOP room anymore.

McCain?

I thought he was the main character in Die Hard

[White Sox]

McCain?

I thought he was the main character in Die Hard

Amazing you've managed to confuse a fictional cop to a former PoW

[Vassenor]

I thought he was the main character in Die Hard

Amazing you've managed to confuse a fictional cop to a former PoW

Amazing that you can't spot sarcasm.

[Geilinor]

Apparently, having minorities/generally disadvantaged individuals helps improve the market price of your company's stock...?

And on the other hand, John Kasich and telling discriminated LGBTs to get over it.

What I would like to say is just relax, and if you don’t like what somebody’s doing, pray for them, and if you’re feeling like somebody is doing something wrong against you, can you just for a second get over it?”

"Get over it" was directed at the people who are trying to discriminate against LGBT people. The Advocate got it wrong.

[New confederate ramenia]

Apparently, having minorities/generally disadvantaged individuals helps improve the market price of your company's stock...?

And on the other hand, John Kasich and telling discriminated LGBTs to get over it.

What I would like to say is just relax, and if you don’t like what somebody’s doing, pray for them, and if you’re feeling like somebody is doing something wrong against you, can you just for a second get over it?”

"Get over it" was directed at the people who are trying to discriminate against LGBT people. The Advocate got it wrong.

Journalism in a nutshell

[Geilinor]

"Get over it" was directed at the people who are trying to discriminate against LGBT people. The Advocate got it wrong.

Journalism in a nutshell

This was especially egregious. They saw a Republican saying something about LGBT people and assumed it must be bad.

[New confederate ramenia]

Journalism in a nutshell

This was especially egregious. They saw a Republican saying something about LGBT people and assumed it must be bad.

Liberal journalism in a nutshell