LGBT Rights & Issues Thread, V3

[Barboneia]

Looks like Mississippi's on the bandwagon.

Mississippi’s New Anti-LGBT Bill Claims That Women Can Be Fired For Wearing Pants

I guess they think it's 1816, not 2016.

[New confederate ramenia]

Yeah, I didn't know that Rhode Island was a state either. *shrugs*

But I mean, I wouldn't expect non-Canadians to know that Prince Edward Island is a province, either, so I guess it goes both ways.

I kind of want to do a social experiment, kind of like the reverse of "Americans know nothing about the rest of the world" stereotypes. Like, I think it'd be hilarious to see a French person try to name and locate all 50 states.

I've actually seen a thread like that on /int/. Most people only got a few states like California or Texas.

[Val Halla]

Looks like Mississippi's on the bandwagon.

Mississippi’s New Anti-LGBT Bill Claims That Women Can Be Fired For Wearing Pants

I guess they think it's 1816, not 2016.

Honestly with the way they wanna treat us it's more like 1984.

[The Flutterlands]

Looks like Mississippi's on the bandwagon.

Mississippi’s New Anti-LGBT Bill Claims That Women Can Be Fired For Wearing Pants

2016 really is turning out to be a sucky year for the LGBT community...

[Sungai Pusat]

Looks like Mississippi's on the bandwagon.

Mississippi’s New Anti-LGBT Bill Claims That Women Can Be Fired For Wearing Pants

2016 really is turning out to be a sucky year for the LGBT community...

Maybe all the celebration from the achievements of last year took out the willingness of straight allies to commit towards a truer sense of equality or something of that sort...

[Liriena]

2016 really is turning out to be a sucky year for the LGBT community...

Maybe all the celebration from the achievements of last year took out the willingness of straight allies to commit towards a truer sense of equality or something of that sort...

Not just straight allies. Many LGBT+ rights organizations disbanded as soon as SCOTUS ruled for marriage equality, and some of those that remain don't have much of a history of showing enthusiasm for anything other than marriage equality.

[Geilinor]

2016 really is turning out to be a sucky year for the LGBT community...

Maybe all the celebration from the achievements of last year took out the willingness of straight allies to commit towards a truer sense of equality or something of that sort...

The anti-LGBT crowd has reorganized using "religious liberty" as an excuse. They realized that they couldn't stop marriage and so they looked for a new strategy.

[Sungai Pusat]

Maybe all the celebration from the achievements of last year took out the willingness of straight allies to commit towards a truer sense of equality or something of that sort...

Not just straight allies. Many LGBT+ rights organizations disbanded as soon as SCOTUS ruled for marriage equality, and some of those that remain don't have much of a history of showing enthusiasm for anything other than marriage equality.

...oh joy.

Maybe all the celebration from the achievements of last year took out the willingness of straight allies to commit towards a truer sense of equality or something of that sort...

The anti-LGBT crowd has reorganized using "religious liberty" as an excuse. They realized that they couldn't stop marriage and so they looked for a new strategy.

I'd have thought that that was always the excuse given, though?

[Liriena]

Maybe all the celebration from the achievements of last year took out the willingness of straight allies to commit towards a truer sense of equality or something of that sort...

The anti-LGBT crowd has reorganized using "religious liberty" as an excuse. They realized that they couldn't stop marriage and so they looked for a new strategy.

That too. They lost the battle for marriage equality because a growing majority of the population, and the political system, rejected their rhetoric. When it comes to anti-discrimination legislation, and specially protections for trans people, they face a less numerous and solidified opposition, and enough ignorance on gender identity issues to make their case more compelling to large amounts of people.

[Geilinor]

The anti-LGBT crowd has reorganized using "religious liberty" as an excuse. They realized that they couldn't stop marriage and so they looked for a new strategy.

That too. They lost the battle for marriage equality because a growing majority of the population, and the political system, rejected their rhetoric. When it comes to anti-discrimination legislation, and specially protections for trans people, they face a less numerous and solidified opposition, and enough ignorance on gender identity issues to make their case more compelling to large amounts of people.

There's also the "bathroom rape" fearmongering.

[Liriena]

I'd have thought that that was always the excuse given, though?

Not quite, at least as far as I can recall. I actually think it was one of the last excuses that anti-LGBT+ groups came up with, once the "Bible says..." and "states rights" angles started to crumble.

[Liriena]

That too. They lost the battle for marriage equality because a growing majority of the population, and the political system, rejected their rhetoric. When it comes to anti-discrimination legislation, and specially protections for trans people, they face a less numerous and solidified opposition, and enough ignorance on gender identity issues to make their case more compelling to large amounts of people.

There's also the "bathroom rape" fearmongering.

Which is made effective by the fact that far too many people don't quite understand trans issues, and culture still has a lot of catching up to do. It's pretty much Anita Bryant all over again: in the name of "protecting children from predators in public spaces", a sexual minority (that a large segment of the population doesn't understand) is vilified, and has its human rights violated. Back then, it was homosexuals in schools. Now, it's transgender people in public restrooms.

[Ashworth-Attwater]

Looks like Mississippi's on the bandwagon.

Mississippi’s New Anti-LGBT Bill Claims That Women Can Be Fired For Wearing Pants

probably directed at hillary clinton

[Liriena]

Looks like Mississippi's on the bandwagon.

Mississippi’s New Anti-LGBT Bill Claims That Women Can Be Fired For Wearing Pants

probably directed at hillary clinton

Khaleesi shall be merciless.

[Sungai Pusat]

I'd have thought that that was always the excuse given, though?

Not quite, at least as far as I can recall. I actually think it was one of the last excuses that anti-LGBT+ groups came up with, once the "Bible says..." and "states rights" angles started to crumble.

Ah, I see then...

Well, I guess that HAS been the most recently used tactic, really...

There's also the "bathroom rape" fearmongering.

Which is made effective by the fact that far too many people don't quite understand trans issues, and culture still has a lot of catching up to do. It's pretty much Anita Bryant all over again: in the name of "protecting children from predators in public spaces", a sexual minority (that a large segment of the population doesn't understand) is vilified, and has its human rights violated. Back then, it was homosexuals in schools. Now, it's transgender people in public restrooms.

And now I know a little more about LGBT history in America than I probably should have.

[Korhal IVV]

Do men get pregnant?

[Neutraligon]

Do men get pregnant?

I know of one who has.

[Korhal IVV]

Do men get pregnant?

I know of one who has.

Not transgender?

[Thermodolia]

Do men get pregnant?

I think it has happened before. Though I don't know if it was due to a DNA glitch or a dude who wanted to be pregnant.

[Neutraligon]

I know of one who has.

Not transgender?

Yes trans, he was almost fully transitioned (ie top surgery and hormones). From the outside there was no way to tell he was once female
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Beatie

[Heidenheim]

Looks like Mississippi's on the bandwagon.

Mississippi’s New Anti-LGBT Bill Claims That Women Can Be Fired For Wearing Pants

WT effing F?

[The Hobbesian Metaphysician]

Looks like Mississippi's on the bandwagon.

Mississippi’s New Anti-LGBT Bill Claims That Women Can Be Fired For Wearing Pants

WT effing F?

Not really. The big thing is that they waited until someone else started.

[Vassenor]

The Mississippi bill has passed.

[Sungai Pusat]

The Mississippi bill has passed.

...whoop.

[The Flutterlands]

The Mississippi bill has passed.

Well, fuck you Mississippi. An infinite number of fucks upon your heads, Mississippi Legislators.