U.S. 2016 Presidential Elections - Democrats' Discussion

[Kelinfort]

Preferably, Chafee, but I'll go Hillary.

[The Liberated Territories]

Preferably, Chafee, but I'll go Hillary.

Go Jim Webb. He's supportive of gun rights.

[Kelinfort]

Preferably, Chafee, but I'll go Hillary.

Go Jim Webb. He's supportive of gun rights.

Well, it's one issue. I love his stance on drugs, too, but I'm being realistic.

[The Liberated Territories]

Go Jim Webb. He's supportive of gun rights.

Well, it's one issue. I love his stance on drugs, too, but I'm being realistic.

My realistic expectations of Hillary will be she'll become Obama 2.0 along with the personality antics of good old Bill.

[Shofercia]

Webb can take it. Honestly, a Paul vs Webb match up would get out the vote. Bush vs Clinton would sink it.

[United Russian Soviet States]

Preferably, Chafee, but I'll go Hillary.

I thought you were center-right.

[Republic of Coldwater]

If they can magically field a Democrat like Calhoun (minus the racism), or Cleveland, they have my full support.

Yes, they should run an upstanding man like John C. Calhoun, who supported slavery and secession. Or Grover Cleveland, who stood in the way of voting rights and advocated imperialism.

If you're looking for candidates like this, you need look no further than the Republican Party.

Minus the racism. Cleveland because of his support for laissez-faire. I do not agree with everything they did, but their support for limited government can be utilized today.

[Atlanticatia]

Yes, they should run an upstanding man like John C. Calhoun, who supported slavery and secession. Or Grover Cleveland, who stood in the way of voting rights and advocated imperialism.

If you're looking for candidates like this, you need look no further than the Republican Party.

Minus the racism. Cleveland because of his support for laissez-faire. I do not agree with everything they did, but their support for limited government can be utilized today.

Limited government except for the whole "authoritarian government that endorsed racial superiority and slavery" thing. Right?

muh liberty

[The Liberated Territories]

Minus the racism. Cleveland because of his support for laissez-faire. I do not agree with everything they did, but their support for limited government can be utilized today.

Limited government except for the whole "authoritarian government that endorsed racial superiority and slavery" thing. Right?

muh liberty

Cleveland's government never endorsed slavery, but he never did anything to oppose it either (actually, he took office after the emancipation, whereas he was indifferent to the current plight), if you are looking for a failing. He did throw support over to the Native Americans by reforming land grants on an individual basis, however.

To Coldwater:

I found this letter to Cleveland by American anarcho-individualist Lysander Spooner online, which, Spooner being a huge influential predecessor to libertarianism, very interesting. Whether or not Spooner influenced Cleveland could be debated, but it is of merit: http://lysanderspooner.org/LetterToGroverCleveland.htm

[Republic of Coldwater]

Minus the racism. Cleveland because of his support for laissez-faire. I do not agree with everything they did, but their support for limited government can be utilized today.

Limited government except for the whole "authoritarian government that endorsed racial superiority and slavery" thing. Right?

muh liberty

Indeed, minus the authoritarian aspect which endorsed racism.

[Othelos]

I hope the Democrats self destruct.

Why? So republicans can take our rights away? Yeah, fuck that.

[United Russian Soviet States]

I hope the Democrats self destruct.

Why? So republicans can take our rights away? Yeah, fuck that.

The Democratic Party is very stupid. The GOP will not take your natural rights away.

[The Liberated Territories]

Why? So republicans can take our rights away? Yeah, fuck that.

The Democratic Party is very stupid. The GOP will not take your natural rights away.

Yes they would. Why the hell are they against gay marriage and abortion if they wouldn't?

[Willamette Valley]

If they can magically field a Democrat like Calhoun (minus the racism), or Cleveland, they have my full support.

It would be entirely anachronistic for such a candidate to appear in the Democratic Party, short of some kind of major realignment.

[Othelos]

Why? So republicans can take our rights away? Yeah, fuck that.

The Democratic Party is very stupid. The GOP will not take your natural rights away.

Let's see:

- Republicans want to stop me from being with the person I love, or from being comfortable with myself.
- Republicans want to manage my reproduction. Yes, I read about that bill in alabama.
- Republicans want to marginalize minorities, which would cause us to lose our voice, and subsequently representation in society.
- Republicans want to marginalize nonreligious people, so that we are seen as immoral, which leads to prejudice, bigotry, and other problems.
- Republicans want to stop me from being able to decide what I put into my body or not.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

Hillary, because she's going to be a big advantage over the Republicans and I'm not taking a chance while the Kochs raise 500 million or whatever.

And the pot gazed upon the kettle and dubbed it black.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

The Democratic Party is very stupid. The GOP will not take your natural rights away.

Let's see:

- Republicans want to stop me from being with the person I love, or from being comfortable with myself.
- Republicans want to manage my reproduction. Yes, I read about that bill in alabama.
- Republicans want to marginalize minorities, which would cause us to lose our voice, and subsequently representation in society.
- Republicans want to marginalize nonreligious people, so that we are seen as immoral, which leads to prejudice, bigotry, and other problems.
- Republicans want to stop me from being able to decide what I put into my body or not.

-some
-some
-blatantly false
-only the hard right, but Dems are no better
- generally speaking the Repubs are actually far better in this area than Democracts

[Spoder]

Hillary, because she's going to be a big advantage over the Republicans and I'm not taking a chance while the Kochs raise 500 million or whatever.

And the pot gazed upon the kettle and dubbed it black.

And the kettle said the pot has some boiling water inside of it.

Politicians are politicians, the best way to get something done would be for the whole nation to unanimously elect Spodermen as president.

[Gig em Aggies]

Look here use the 2008 election as an example Obama was no body from Chicago and then *clicks fingers* he's president. I don't want another nobody winning again in which I mean find someone with a good political base of experience if I had to choose anyone from the democrats I'd choose Hillary even though I'm a moderate republican. Because she has the most experience with foreign and domestic policy even more then Obama.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

The Democratic Party is very stupid. The GOP will not take your natural rights away.

Yes they would. Why the hell are they against gay marriage and abortion if they wouldn't?

Well I suppose you'd first have to prove Marriage and Abortion are "natural rights"

[Tarsonis Survivors]

And the pot gazed upon the kettle and dubbed it black.

And the kettle said the pot has some boiling water inside of it.

Politicians are politicians, the best way to get something done would be for the whole nation to unanimously elect Spodermen as president.

Spoderman supporters hate america. True patriots support Dolan/Gooby

[Tarsonis Survivors]

Look here use the 2008 election as an example Obama was no body from Chicago and then *clicks fingers* he's president. I don't want another nobody winning again in which I mean find someone with a good political base of experience if I had to choose anyone from the democrats I'd choose Hillary even though I'm a moderate republican. Because she has the most experience with foreign and domestic policy even more then Obama.

That's like saying she's a dwarf among midgets.

[Othelos]

Let's see:

- Republicans want to stop me from being with the person I love, or from being comfortable with myself.
- Republicans want to manage my reproduction. Yes, I read about that bill in alabama.
- Republicans want to marginalize minorities, which would cause us to lose our voice, and subsequently representation in society.
- Republicans want to marginalize nonreligious people, so that we are seen as immoral, which leads to prejudice, bigotry, and other problems.
- Republicans want to stop me from being able to decide what I put into my body or not.

-some

Yeah, look at the platform.

-some

platform

-blatantly false

really? Cause it's not like they're very inclusive.

-only the hard right, but Dems are no better

I guess to some degree, but I haven't heard of many democrats using "this is a christian nation" rhetoric. Correct me if I'm wrong.

- generally speaking the Repubs are actually far better in this area than Democracts

I was talking about drug legalization, which dems are the only ones I've seen actually do anything meaningful towards. If you meant that stupid soda size drink thing, that doesn't count because you can still get soda.

[Gig em Aggies]

And the kettle said the pot has some boiling water inside of it.

Politicians are politicians, the best way to get something done would be for the whole nation to unanimously elect Spodermen as president.

Spoderman supporters hate america. True patriots support Dolan/Gooby

Nah if you want a real person in office just vote Max Berry in as president his VP I don't know who.

[Spoder]

And the kettle said the pot has some boiling water inside of it.

Politicians are politicians, the best way to get something done would be for the whole nation to unanimously elect Spodermen as president.

Spoderman supporters hate america. True patriots support Dolan/Gooby

Well, the fictional character doesn't matter as much as the act.

We need to find a champion. A Harvey Dent. Somebody the whole nation can look up to...

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