U.S. 2016 Presidential Elections - Democrats' Discussion

[Ngelmish]

The idea that Elizabeth Warren is the only Democrat who could run and challenge Hillary Clinton from the left is truly bizarre and smacks of either lazy thinking, low-information, or disingenuity. All of the Democrats currently making noises about running have positioned themselves to do precisely that, O'Malley aggressively so, Webb on selected economic and social positions, and Sanders from world political perspective. Even Chaffee, who has no credibility on such matters, is posturing to run to her left on foreign policy. The insistence that only Warren can challenge Clinton seems little more than myopic.

Of the all-but-declared field my favorite at the moment is O'Malley. It's a pity he won't get the nomination, he's the best available substitute for the position of president currently running.

On foreign policy, most Democrats are to the left of Clinton.

Most of the base, perhaps. Clinton's opinions are pretty mainstream for a Democratic politician. There's disagreement and squeamishness about how to apply interventionist policies, but you won't find many elected Democrats today who will say that, for example, Bill Clinton was right to stay out of Rwanda.

[Ikania]

Clinton/Sanders 2016. I would support Biden, but I have no idea what his stances are or if he could win.

[Atlanticatia]

Let's see:

- Republicans want to stop me from being with the person I love, or from being comfortable with myself.
- Republicans want to manage my reproduction. Yes, I read about that bill in alabama.
- Republicans want to marginalize minorities, which would cause us to lose our voice, and subsequently representation in society.
- Republicans want to marginalize nonreligious people, so that we are seen as immoral, which leads to prejudice, bigotry, and other problems.
- Republicans want to stop me from being able to decide what I put into my body or not.

-some
-some
-blatantly false
-only the hard right, but Dems are no better
- generally speaking the Repubs are actually far better in this area than Democracts

- From the official GOP platform: "We reaffirm our support for a Constitutional amendment defining marriage as the union of one man and one woman."
- From the official GOP platform: "Faithful to the “self-evident” truths enshrined in the Declaration of Independence, we assert the sanctity of human life and affirm that the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed. We support a human life amendment to the Constitution and endorse legislation to make clear that the Fourteenth Amendment’s protections apply to unborn children.
- Voter ID laws? The fact that less than 5% of the GOP caucus are minorities, while minorities make up 37% of the population?
- Obama mentioned people without faith in an address. No one in the party objected that. Most irreligious people vote Democrat.

[Francois Taxman Hollande]

I will support anyone who raises the income tax to 75%

[The Liberated Territories]

I will support anyone who raises the income tax to 75%

Why stop there? Tax the rich over 100% so they are paying more to the state than earning in income.

After all, it's for the general good.

[Francois Taxman Hollande]

I will support anyone who raises the income tax to 75%

Why stop there? Tax the rich over 100% so they are paying more to the state than earning in income.

After all, it's for the general good.

We need more people like you around.

[Willamette Valley]

The idea that Elizabeth Warren is the only Democrat who could run and challenge Hillary Clinton from the left is truly bizarre and smacks of either lazy thinking, low-information, or disingenuity. All of the Democrats currently making noises about running have positioned themselves to do precisely that, O'Malley aggressively so, Webb on selected economic and social positions, and Sanders from world political perspective. Even Chaffee, who has no credibility on such matters, is posturing to run to her left on foreign policy. The insistence that only Warren can challenge Clinton seems little more than myopic.

Of the all-but-declared field my favorite at the moment is O'Malley. It's a pity he won't get the nomination, he's the best available substitute for the position of president currently running.

It's hard imagining Webb to the left of most anybody in the Democratic party on anything except maybe foreign policy

[Ngelmish]

The idea that Elizabeth Warren is the only Democrat who could run and challenge Hillary Clinton from the left is truly bizarre and smacks of either lazy thinking, low-information, or disingenuity. All of the Democrats currently making noises about running have positioned themselves to do precisely that, O'Malley aggressively so, Webb on selected economic and social positions, and Sanders from world political perspective. Even Chaffee, who has no credibility on such matters, is posturing to run to her left on foreign policy. The insistence that only Warren can challenge Clinton seems little more than myopic.

Of the all-but-declared field my favorite at the moment is O'Malley. It's a pity he won't get the nomination, he's the best available substitute for the position of president currently running.

It's hard imagining Webb to the left of most anybody in the Democratic party on anything except maybe foreign policy

Oh, I agree, Webb's a conservative Democrat of yesteryear. But that hasn't stopped him from making noises that stake out positions marginally to Hillary's left when it comes talking economic populism aimed at poor working whites. It's the most obvious form of hypocritical pandering, but if even Jim Webb is doing it then there's no reason to take seriously the idea that only Elizabeth Warren can.

[Bachmann America]

I want Bernie Sanders to get the nomination so that the Republican candidate wins in a land slide.

[Geilinor]

Clinton/Sanders 2016. I would support Biden, but I have no idea what his stances are or if he could win.

I don't know if Biden wants to run, he ran twice with no success and he'll be 75.

[Roma Byzantina]

Hillary Clinton simply due to me believing that she has the best chance to beat the Republicans.

[DBJ]

Where's Joe Lieberman when you need him.

[Ecaria]

Clinton will win the nomination. I mean some upstarts might go past her like Obama but Sanders and Warren won't.

[Othelos]

I want Bernie Sanders to get the nomination so that the Republican candidate wins in a land slide.

How about Sanders vs. Santorum? Now that would be an interesting race.

[Kelinfort]

I have signed up to support Chafee, but he'll be crushed by Clinton.

[Myrensis]

Given that all treaties must be ratified by Congress? Not likely.

A. Given that Obama isn't negotiating a formal treaty, that's not relevant. Congress may be needed for the lifting of certain sanctions, but that's it.

B. Republicans must really get off on the idea of sending thousands of US soldiers to die in Iran, because if they, either through Congress or a potential Republican President, unilaterally scrap the deal we will lose all international support for any other measures against Iran. China and Russia will certainly refuse to help us any further, and even our European allies won't have much reason to help us considering we'll have just pissed all over everything they did before because, "FUCK YOU! 'MURICA!" .

but "we were broke when we left the White House". The photo op with "everyday folks" that all turned out to be Democratic staffers and activists, Chelsea Clintons "symbolic" quote, and dealings with Saudi Arabia. Not to mention Hillaries attempts to paint herself as just a normal gal, that falls utterly flat, and lack of substantiality in Foreign Policy when it was her Job, republicans don't need to make stuff up. She keeps giving up gold

Pop Quiz: How much time did George Bush, the scion of a wealthy politically connected New England family, spend living or working on a ranch before his election? And how long after he left office did he leave said ranch? The correct answers would be: Never, and as soon as he could close on a 3 million dollar house in Dallas. Sorry, but people on both sides of the political spectrum eat up this 'Oh I'm just ordinary people like you.' crap.

[Lalaki]

I support Hillary Clinton.

Let's be honest with ourselves. Sanders has no chance of succeeding (as honest as he is). We need to play pragmatic politics and get behind who best carries our torch.

[Lyrian Oligarchic Royal Empire]

I support Hillary Clinton.

Let's be honest with ourselves. Sanders has no chance of succeeding (as honest as he is). We need to play pragmatic politics and get behind who best carries our torch.

Who is "our"? Because very little that Hillary espouses actually benefits me at all.