51% of Japanese support expanding immigration

[Sebtopiaris]

Though I guess there is something that could get my interest in moving to Japan.

Do Japanese women find foreign guys hot and shaggadelic baby yeaaaah

i hope k-pop and k-dramas being popular in japan will cause people to find me more sexy there

I think that in this world, there's someone out there who'd find you sexy for sure, regardless of who you are.

[Arumdaum]

Either way, let's get back to more serious matters...

[Sebtopiaris]

Smuggle me in your suitcase. Let's raise some birth rates!

NEIN! *beats back with stick* Waffle Zug fährt nach Bayern, um Buntstifte zu packen und zu vereinheitlichen mit Schokolade Ziegen!

u fukin wot m8

[Sebtopiaris]

Either way, let's get back to more serious matters...

Yeah.
Personally, regarding immigration, it's a good idea to expand it a little. Just naturalise the immigrants to stop what's happening in Europe right now.

[Napkiraly]

Right sorry, comp was acting awry.

But yeah, I think since Japan has been pretty homogeneous for a long time, it'll have to be tackled more carefully lest we get a lot of the same anti-immigrant backlash seen in certain parts of Europe.

[Arumdaum]

I also feel that if Japan has more immigration from non-East Asian countries, it'll cause Japanese people to feel less discriminatory toward the local ethnic Chinese and Korean communities, and groups such as the Zaitokutai will have less clout.

Unfortunately, this would also mean redirecting hate toward new immigrant communities.

[Sebtopiaris]

I also feel that if Japan has more immigration from non-East Asian countries, it'll cause Japanese people to feel less discriminatory toward the local ethnic Chinese and Korean communities, and groups such as the Zaitokutai will have less clout.

Unfortunately, this would also mean redirecting hate toward new immigrant communities.

Won't this Zaitokutai movement just get pissed at the new immigrants? I mean, throughout history, people have always disliked things they thought to be unfamiliar, and immigrants are no exception.
That's why naturalising them and including them in Japanese society would be cool.

[Arumdaum]

I also feel that if Japan has more immigration from non-East Asian countries, it'll cause Japanese people to feel less discriminatory toward the local ethnic Chinese and Korean communities, and groups such as the Zaitokutai will have less clout.

Unfortunately, this would also mean redirecting hate toward new immigrant communities.

Won't this Zaitokutai movement just get pissed at the new immigrants? I mean, throughout history, people have always disliked things they thought to be unfamiliar, and immigrants are no exception.
That's why naturalising them and including them in Japanese society would be cool.

Well, Zaitokutai is specifically directed toward Koreans, referring to them even in its name, so...

I get what you mean though, and obviously there will be new groups who will hate on immigrants. Issues regarding that will have to be addressed more in the future.

By naturalizing them, do you mean assimilating them culturally?

[Napkiraly]

I also feel that if Japan has more immigration from non-East Asian countries, it'll cause Japanese people to feel less discriminatory toward the local ethnic Chinese and Korean communities, and groups such as the Zaitokutai will have less clout.

Unfortunately, this would also mean redirecting hate toward new immigrant communities.

Won't this Zaitokutai movement just get pissed at the new immigrants? I mean, throughout history, people have always disliked things they thought to be unfamiliar, and immigrants are no exception.
That's why naturalising them and including them in Japanese society would be cool.

Even naturalisation isn't always considered being "Japanese" enough so I've heard. I mean there was some controversy over the young woman who represented Japan at Miss Universe recently because her father is black even though she's pretty damn Japanese.

[Russels Orbiting Teapot]

Well, this might turn into another reason to be glad that my partner is currently learning Japanese.

I have an English degree, so I could probably get a fairly well-paying job there.

[Sebtopiaris]

Won't this Zaitokutai movement just get pissed at the new immigrants? I mean, throughout history, people have always disliked things they thought to be unfamiliar, and immigrants are no exception.
That's why naturalising them and including them in Japanese society would be cool.

Well, Zaitokutai is specifically directed toward Koreans, referring to them even in its name, so...

I get what you mean though, and obviously there will be new groups who will hate on immigrants. Issues regarding that will have to be addressed more in the future.

By naturalizing them, do you mean assimilating them culturally?

Yes, I do mean by assimilating them culturally.

And sorry about the mistake before; I'm a bit of a dumb anglo. Can't understand the name or much Japanese at all for that matter.
I'll have to look into it more though. Wikipedia ahoy!

[Arumdaum]

Won't this Zaitokutai movement just get pissed at the new immigrants? I mean, throughout history, people have always disliked things they thought to be unfamiliar, and immigrants are no exception.
That's why naturalising them and including them in Japanese society would be cool.

Even naturalisation isn't always considered being "Japanese" enough so I've heard. I mean there was some controversy over the young woman who represented Japan at Miss Universe recently because her father is black even though she's pretty damn Japanese.

Oh yeah, Miss Japan 2015.

I think it's not just a Japanese problem though, considering the problems we had here in the US with Miss USA 2014 being ethically Indian and Miss Israel also having been black.

[L Ron Cupboard]

Do Japanese women find foreign guys hot and shaggadelic baby yeaaaah

Generally no.

[Napkiraly]

Even naturalisation isn't always considered being "Japanese" enough so I've heard. I mean there was some controversy over the young woman who represented Japan at Miss Universe recently because her father is black even though she's pretty damn Japanese.

Oh yeah, Miss Japan 2015.

I think it's not just a Japanese problem though, considering the problems we had here in the US with Miss USA 2014 being ethically Indian and Miss Israel also having been black.

True enough.

[Napkiraly]

Do Japanese women find foreign guys hot and shaggadelic baby yeaaaah

Generally no.

Even if they look like Ryan Gosling?

[Calimera II]

They will regret.

[Rapidblaze]

nice

[Dumb Ideologies]

Wait till there's an Americatown district, then weee, revenge dirty bomb.

[Arumdaum]

http://ajw.asahi.com/article/views/edit ... 1306190032

A bit old, but some good info

60% say that they don't have more kids due to the expenses that come with raising a child

for men in their 30s with stable employment, marriage rate is 70%

for men in their 30s who are non-regular workers, marriage rate is 24%

japan's economy hasn't been so hot for a while so i guess that's been making things worse

[Napkiraly]

http://ajw.asahi.com/article/views/editorial/AJ201306190032

A bit old, but some good info

60% say that they don't have more kids due to the expenses that come with raising a child

for men in their 30s with stable employment, marriage rate is 70%

for men in their 30s who are non-regular workers, marriage rate is 24%

japan's economy hasn't been so hot for a while so i guess that's been making things worse

Hasn't it been like 25 years of stagnation?

[Napkiraly]

They will regret.

Regret what?

[The Conez Imperium]

Japans an awfully closed society. While its nice to see more people supporting immigration actions speak louder than words.

[The East Asian Post-Apocalyptic Pact]

Either way, what do you think?

I think it's gonna get more crowded.

Will Japan end up following the path of states in Europe and be more open to immigration?

Probably. Extrapolation is hard to do, though. People are a heavily random factor.

Is it only a matter of time before Japan starts accepting more refugees from war-torn areas as well?

I hope so. However, there is the issue of employment. Is education in the present war-torn countries in matched up with that of Japan? I would hardly think so. So unemployment levels may be high for the refugees.

Should Japan open itself up to more immigration?

To a certain extent. Letting more people in is gonna drive up living costs, which are high already.

[Confederate Ramenia]

http://ajw.asahi.com/article/behind_news/social_affairs/AJ201504180035

The majority of Japanese support a more open immigration policy with the number of those willing to accept foreigners who want to permanently settle doubling over the last five years, an Asahi Shimbun survey shows.

In the new poll, 51 percent of Japanese respondents said they support Japan accepting foreigners who want to settle, while 34 percent were opposed to expanding immigration.

The positive result was almost twice that of a previous survey in May 2010.

In the earlier poll, respondents were asked whether or not they supported accepting a large number of immigrants if Japan was unable to maintain the scale of its economy because of a greying society and depopulation due to a low birthrate.

Only 26 percent gave their support, while 65 percent were opposed.

In the latest survey, questionnaires were mailed to 3,000 Japanese adults on March 11. Valid responses were received from 2,016 by April 10.

Fifty-one percent also said they think accepting immigrants will solve the anticipated labor shortage in Japan, while 48 percent said otherwise.

Asked if immigrants can deprive Japanese of job opportunities, 7 percent said they strongly think so, while 36 percent said they somewhat think so.

Twenty-two percent said they strongly believe accepting more immigrants will worsen the security situation in Japan while 54 percent said they somewhat believe it will.

The Asahi Shimbun also commissioned a polling company in Germany to conduct a telephone survey to ask Germans if they supported the country’s policy of accepting a large number of immigrants since the mid-1950s.

It received valid responses from 1,000 Germans age 18 and older between March 11 and 24, with 82 percent saying it was good the country had accepted a large number of immigrants and 16 percent saying otherwise.

However, 53 percent of respondents said they believe accepting immigrants has led to a deterioration in the security situation in Germany, including 15 percent who said they strongly believe so.

According to surveys carried out by Asahi, a major Japanese newspaper, 51% of Japanese now support making it easier to immigrate to Japan, up from 26% in 2010. Only 34% of people are against it, as opposed to 65% opposition from the 2010 survey.

The news is good to hear. I'm hoping that Japan is more open to immigration in the future, and moves past simply hiring foreign workers for a few years and then sending them home for the labor shortage. It would be nice to see Japan suffer less from the effects of depopulation, but greater interaction with those who are not ethnically Japanese would hopefully cause Japan to be more tolerant of minorities.

I'm a bit skeptical considering that the number is so high, since IIRC Asashi is a center-left newspaper which may show opinions more liberal than the actual Japanese population. However, I don't closely follow Japanese politics, so I don't really know how developments regarding depopulation and immigration have played out in Japan within the past five years.

I don't expect much loosening of immigration laws under Abe, but I've heard there's been some discussion. If current trends continue, and as the effects of depopulation are more heavily felt in Japan, immigration laws will probably become more lax in the future.

Either way, what do you think? Will Japan end up following the path of states in Europe and be more open to immigration? Is it only a matter of time before Japan starts accepting more refugees from war-torn areas as well? Should Japan open itself up to more immigration?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. RIP JAPAN.

[Dakini]

It's a slim majority, but it's increased fast so that's a good sign.

Which is awesome, because immigration here is a huge pain in the ass. And also the economy went into recession, the yen is devaluing and food prices just went up recently... fun times.