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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:02 pm

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Nightkill the Emperor wrote:I am not anti-Hindu/Indian. I am extremely proud of my country and I am very devout. You can accuse me of many things but never this.

I am anti-intolerance, anti-ignorance, anti-hatred, anti-racist and very much against people who make a mockery of our nation by being pro all those things.

I am anti-you. Those are the things you can accuse me of, understood?

It is a good thing that your devout but you have any idea of what pakistan does to us ?

Why do we even allow a single Pakistani inside our country ?

I'm fully aware. So why should we punish the people for what the government does?

I am very strongly against the Pakistani government and feel Pakistan must be in check. But why punish the people? This is idiocy based in hatred.
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Postby Benuty » Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:03 pm

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A country armed with nukes and a deep rooted historical hatred is a threat

So India is a threat, and should be eliminated. Got it.

This thread feels like the Cold War all over again just replace India with you know who, and the same circular arguments will forever fill up the cups with the wine of wrath.
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Postby Amuaplye » Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:04 pm

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Naushantiya wrote:Anything is worth it but not peace with Pakistan, I strongly oppose any sort of peace since any peace with Pakistan would be a Carthagian peace. The best thing in my opinion is just to break the indus treaty

But why would peace with Pakistan be a bad thing?

It isn't bad. Peace will come.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:04 pm

Arana wrote:
Naushantiya wrote:It is a good thing that your devout but you have any idea of what pakistan does to us ?

Why do we even allow a single Pakistani inside our country ?

He's Indian, dumbass. I'm going to guess he probably knows.

And you accuse Pakistan of being racist against Indians, while at the same time calling Pakistanis your "ancestral blood enemies" and questioning why they're even allowed in your country.

I don't know how they're ancestral blood enemies seeing as Pakistan wasn't a concept 80 years ago.
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Postby Naushantiya » Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:05 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Naushantiya wrote:It is a good thing that your devout but you have any idea of what pakistan does to us ?

Why do we even allow a single Pakistani inside our country ?

I'm fully aware. So why should we punish the people for what the government does?

I am very strongly against the Pakistani government and feel Pakistan must be in check. But why punish the people? This is idiocy based in hatred.


Because it is these people who elect the government, it is these people who vote and support the pakistani government and it is these people who would form the pakistani army during a war. We don't need them in our country, they got their country their promised land out of what was anciently our land so they should now stay there, we have paid too grave a price for our association with pakistan

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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:05 pm

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New Werpland wrote:Bollywood isn't that good either.

Yeah the Bollywood films ive seen have been pretty shit.

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Postby Arana » Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:05 pm

Naushantiya wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:I'm fully aware. So why should we punish the people for what the government does?

I am very strongly against the Pakistani government and feel Pakistan must be in check. But why punish the people? This is idiocy based in hatred.


Because it is these people who elect the government, it is these people who vote and support the pakistani government and it is these people who would form the pakistani army during a war. We don't need them in our country, they got their country their promised land out of what was anciently our land so they should now stay there, we have paid too grave a price for our association with pakistan

I thought you said the military controls the government in Pakistan? :eyebrow:
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Postby Arana » Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:05 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Arana wrote:He's Indian, dumbass. I'm going to guess he probably knows.

And you accuse Pakistan of being racist against Indians, while at the same time calling Pakistanis your "ancestral blood enemies" and questioning why they're even allowed in your country.

I don't know how they're ancestral blood enemies seeing as Pakistan wasn't a concept 80 years ago.

Exactly.
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Postby Valaran » Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:06 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Naushantiya wrote:It is a good thing that your devout but you have any idea of what pakistan does to us ?

Why do we even allow a single Pakistani inside our country ?

I'm fully aware. So why should we punish the people for what the government does?

I am very strongly against the Pakistani government and feel Pakistan must be in check. But why punish the people? This is idiocy based in hatred.



I know I'm not adding much with this post, but I would still like to stress how much I support this^.
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Postby Naushantiya » Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:07 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Arana wrote:He's Indian, dumbass. I'm going to guess he probably knows.

And you accuse Pakistan of being racist against Indians, while at the same time calling Pakistanis your "ancestral blood enemies" and questioning why they're even allowed in your country.

I don't know how they're ancestral blood enemies seeing as Pakistan wasn't a concept 80 years ago.

Well, Pakistan, the idea of pakistan is rooted in islamic nationalism and the wicked belief that state and religion are one

This is from the founder of pakistan, and the most wickedest man in history


[[23]] It is extremely difficult to appreciate why our Hindu friends fail to understand the real nature of Islam and Hinduism. They are not religions in the strict sense of the word, but are, in fact, different and distinct social orders; and it is a dream that the Hindus and Muslims can ever evolve a common nationality; and this misconception of one Indian nation has gone far beyond the limits and is the cause of more of our troubles and will lead India to destruction if we fail to revise our notions in time. The Hindus and Muslims belong to two different religious philosophies, social customs, and literature[s]. They neither intermarry nor interdine together, and indeed they belong to two different civilisations which are based mainly on conflicting ideas and conceptions. Their aspects [=perspectives?] on life, and of life, are different. It is quite clear that Hindus and Mussalmans derive their inspiration from different sources of history. They have different epics, their heroes are different, and different episode[s]. Very often the hero of one is a foe of the other, and likewise their victories and defeats overlap. To yoke together two such nations under a single state, one as a numerical minority and the other as a majority, must lead to growing discontent, and final. destruction of any fabric that may be so built up for the government of such a state.


_ Jinnah

So as per pakistan we become their ancestral enemies
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Postby Arana » Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:08 pm

Naushantiya wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:I don't know how they're ancestral blood enemies seeing as Pakistan wasn't a concept 80 years ago.

Well, Pakistan, the idea of pakistan is rooted in islamic nationalism and the wicked belief that state and religion are one

This is from the founder of pakistan, and the most wickedest man in history


[[23]] It is extremely difficult to appreciate why our Hindu friends fail to understand the real nature of Islam and Hinduism. They are not religions in the strict sense of the word, but are, in fact, different and distinct social orders; and it is a dream that the Hindus and Muslims can ever evolve a common nationality; and this misconception of one Indian nation has gone far beyond the limits and is the cause of more of our troubles and will lead India to destruction if we fail to revise our notions in time. The Hindus and Muslims belong to two different religious philosophies, social customs, and literature[s]. They neither intermarry nor interdine together, and indeed they belong to two different civilisations which are based mainly on conflicting ideas and conceptions. Their aspects [=perspectives?] on life, and of life, are different. It is quite clear that Hindus and Mussalmans derive their inspiration from different sources of history. They have different epics, their heroes are different, and different episode[s]. Very often the hero of one is a foe of the other, and likewise their victories and defeats overlap. To yoke together two such nations under a single state, one as a numerical minority and the other as a majority, must lead to growing discontent, and final. destruction of any fabric that may be so built up for the government of such a state.


_ Jinnah

So as per pakistan we become their ancestral enemies

So it looks like he's saying that Pakistanis and Indians can never coexist, and that their religions and customs don't mix... seemingly almost identical to what you've been saying, but from the other side.
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Postby Benuty » Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:09 pm

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Nightkill the Emperor wrote:I'm fully aware. So why should we punish the people for what the government does?

I am very strongly against the Pakistani government and feel Pakistan must be in check. But why punish the people? This is idiocy based in hatred.


Because it is these people who elect the government, it is these people who vote and support the pakistani government and it is these people who would form the pakistani army during a war. We don't need them in our country, they got their country their promised land out of what was anciently our land so they should now stay there, we have paid too grave a price for our association with pakistan

"Our land" well that certainly rings similar to the Know Nothings of the 1800s trying to keep the Catholics, and "dirty brown people" off "our land".
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Postby Fartsniffage » Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:10 pm

Naushantiya wrote:This is from the founder of pakistan, and the most wickedest man in history


Clive of India will be so disappointed...

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Postby Benuty » Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:11 pm

Naushantiya wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:I don't know how they're ancestral blood enemies seeing as Pakistan wasn't a concept 80 years ago.

Well, Pakistan, the idea of pakistan is rooted in islamic nationalism and the wicked belief that state and religion are one

This is from the founder of pakistan, and the most wickedest man in history


[[23]] It is extremely difficult to appreciate why our Hindu friends fail to understand the real nature of Islam and Hinduism. They are not religions in the strict sense of the word, but are, in fact, different and distinct social orders; and it is a dream that the Hindus and Muslims can ever evolve a common nationality; and this misconception of one Indian nation has gone far beyond the limits and is the cause of more of our troubles and will lead India to destruction if we fail to revise our notions in time. The Hindus and Muslims belong to two different religious philosophies, social customs, and literature[s]. They neither intermarry nor interdine together, and indeed they belong to two different civilisations which are based mainly on conflicting ideas and conceptions. Their aspects [=perspectives?] on life, and of life, are different. It is quite clear that Hindus and Mussalmans derive their inspiration from different sources of history. They have different epics, their heroes are different, and different episode[s]. Very often the hero of one is a foe of the other, and likewise their victories and defeats overlap. To yoke together two such nations under a single state, one as a numerical minority and the other as a majority, must lead to growing discontent, and final. destruction of any fabric that may be so built up for the government of such a state.


_ Jinnah

So as per pakistan we become their ancestral enemies

I'd hardly call them the most wicked human being in the entirety of our species history.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:12 pm

Naushantiya wrote:
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India is 10 times the country that Pakistan is. GDP, population, military spending, size, all roughly 10 times larger in India than Pakistan.

If Pakistan is really that bad for India then India is really a very weak place.


A country armed with nukes and a deep rooted historical hatred is a threat


I'm pretty sure that's exactly what the Pakistani government was thinking in 1974. Remember, it was India that brought nuclear weapons to the sub-continent, not Pakistan.
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Postby Naushantiya » Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:30 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
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A country armed with nukes and a deep rooted historical hatred is a threat


I'm pretty sure that's exactly what the Pakistani government was thinking in 1974. Remember, it was India that brought nuclear weapons to the sub-continent, not Pakistan.

Actually it was a chain reaction

China got nukes, than India got nukes and after that Pakistan got nukes, ironically these WMD's are what keep the peace, as I have always said and maintained something you Brits would of course know all too well, Fear is the best deterrent

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Postby Naushantiya » Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:31 pm

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Naushantiya wrote:This is from the founder of pakistan, and the most wickedest man in history


Clive of Britainwill be so disappointed...


I have tweaked little bit but nope Clive is not half as bad as jinnah

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Postby Miletos » Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:33 pm

Considering OP's general stance on most things seems to be "ARGH I hate Western people so much they're all racist oppressors argh", I'm intrigued by the massively racist outburst that is the OP itself.

In answer to the question posed; no, India should not just up and expel every single Pakistani person in sport and the media because they happen to be Pakistanis.
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Postby Sungai Pusat » Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:34 pm

Naushantiya wrote:Pakistan has always been a source of our everlasting miseries, it is the prime exporter of terrorism throughout the globe and supported movements Islamic separatists and even aided north korea in developing nuclear weapons. Pakistan has attacked India thrice and generally committed genocide towards Hindus and other communities, yet we allow people from these kind of countries inside our border and let them work in our film industry, while at the same time Pakistan has a ban on Indian films, I think it is high time that we ban any actor of Pakistani origin from working in an Indian film and expel all cricketers of Pakistan. These people ban our films and we give them so much leeway. If they ban our films than why should we let their actors work in our movies and work in their third class movie industry. They also eat up revenues from our films, I hate the idea of allowing somebody from Pakistan working in an Indian movie.

So NSG should India ban pakistani actors and films like they have banned our films ?

The same films where we employ their horrible actors

...yes, because banning films from another country is certainly the best way of dealing with such a conflict. Clearly.
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Postby Alosteq Diin Nastja » Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:35 pm

Naushantiya wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Clive of Britainwill be so disappointed...


I have tweaked little bit but nope Clive is not half as bad as jinnah

Stalin wasn't too great either. Neither was Hitler. Nor were Mao, Pol Pot, Vlad the Impaler, and the list goes on.
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Postby Naushantiya » Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:35 pm

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Naushantiya wrote:Pakistan has always been a source of our everlasting miseries, it is the prime exporter of terrorism throughout the globe and supported movements Islamic separatists and even aided north korea in developing nuclear weapons. Pakistan has attacked India thrice and generally committed genocide towards Hindus and other communities, yet we allow people from these kind of countries inside our border and let them work in our film industry, while at the same time Pakistan has a ban on Indian films, I think it is high time that we ban any actor of Pakistani origin from working in an Indian film and expel all cricketers of Pakistan. These people ban our films and we give them so much leeway. If they ban our films than why should we let their actors work in our movies and work in their third class movie industry. They also eat up revenues from our films, I hate the idea of allowing somebody from Pakistan working in an Indian movie.

So NSG should India ban pakistani actors and films like they have banned our films ?

The same films where we employ their horrible actors

...yes, because banning films from another country is certainly the best way of dealing with such a conflict. Clearly.


It would send them a message that they are not welcome here

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Postby Valaran » Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:37 pm

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It would send them a message that they are not welcome here



Its like they don't have inboxes for you to email them that.
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Postby Amuaplye » Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:37 pm

Naushantiya wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:I don't know how they're ancestral blood enemies seeing as Pakistan wasn't a concept 80 years ago.

Well, Pakistan, the idea of pakistan is rooted in islamic nationalism and the wicked belief that state and religion are one

This is from the founder of pakistan, and the most wickedest man in history


[[23]] It is extremely difficult to appreciate why our Hindu friends fail to understand the real nature of Islam and Hinduism. They are not religions in the strict sense of the word, but are, in fact, different and distinct social orders; and it is a dream that the Hindus and Muslims can ever evolve a common nationality; and this misconception of one Indian nation has gone far beyond the limits and is the cause of more of our troubles and will lead India to destruction if we fail to revise our notions in time. The Hindus and Muslims belong to two different religious philosophies, social customs, and literature[s]. They neither intermarry nor interdine together, and indeed they belong to two different civilisations which are based mainly on conflicting ideas and conceptions. Their aspects [=perspectives?] on life, and of life, are different. It is quite clear that Hindus and Mussalmans derive their inspiration from different sources of history. They have different epics, their heroes are different, and different episode[s]. Very often the hero of one is a foe of the other, and likewise their victories and defeats overlap. To yoke together two such nations under a single state, one as a numerical minority and the other as a majority, must lead to growing discontent, and final. destruction of any fabric that may be so built up for the government of such a state.


_ Jinnah

So as per pakistan we become their ancestral enemies

Explain why and your source for all of these facts.
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Postby Naushantiya » Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:38 pm

Amuaplye wrote:
Naushantiya wrote:Well, Pakistan, the idea of pakistan is rooted in islamic nationalism and the wicked belief that state and religion are one

This is from the founder of pakistan, and the most wickedest man in history


[[23]] It is extremely difficult to appreciate why our Hindu friends fail to understand the real nature of Islam and Hinduism. They are not religions in the strict sense of the word, but are, in fact, different and distinct social orders; and it is a dream that the Hindus and Muslims can ever evolve a common nationality; and this misconception of one Indian nation has gone far beyond the limits and is the cause of more of our troubles and will lead India to destruction if we fail to revise our notions in time. The Hindus and Muslims belong to two different religious philosophies, social customs, and literature[s]. They neither intermarry nor interdine together, and indeed they belong to two different civilisations which are based mainly on conflicting ideas and conceptions. Their aspects [=perspectives?] on life, and of life, are different. It is quite clear that Hindus and Mussalmans derive their inspiration from different sources of history. They have different epics, their heroes are different, and different episode[s]. Very often the hero of one is a foe of the other, and likewise their victories and defeats overlap. To yoke together two such nations under a single state, one as a numerical minority and the other as a majority, must lead to growing discontent, and final. destruction of any fabric that may be so built up for the government of such a state.


_ Jinnah

So as per pakistan we become their ancestral enemies

Explain why and your source for all of these facts.


Isn't Mr jinnah being obvious

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Sungai Pusat wrote:...yes, because banning films from another country is certainly the best way of dealing with such a conflict. Clearly.


It would send them a message that they are not welcome here


So, if you can't beat them, join them?
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