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Postby The Greater Aryan Race » Fri Apr 24, 2015 6:37 am

Ardoki wrote:They may have done bad things, but they meant well (and they were forced to do it by the British authorities).

Lord Louis Mountbatten and his relations would disagree with you.
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Because if it is, I'm probably going to say something mean and contrary just to contradict the majority.

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Postby Arglorand » Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:02 am

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Arglorand wrote:Personally, it might be the fact that I doubt you actually understand and appreciate all those cultures, judging by your negative reaction to the term.

What do you actually know about Lithuania, for example? As a resident of the country I feel fascinated.

Lithuania? Admittedly not much, although I fail to see why I can't be proud of being Lithuanian.

I would go "because you're not?" but that would be a doucheish move.

Instead, because until you move here, you're not.
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Postby Smithdown and Wavertree » Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:17 am

Imperial New Vegas wrote:When you have nothing else to say you simply decide to insult people. How improper.


what? i didn't insult him and explained exactly why i found it funny. he's not irish, or lithuanian, or whatever, he's american.

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Postby Smithdown and Wavertree » Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:18 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Lots of Americans do that, we be proud of our heritage matey.


it's considered a joke by the rest of the world though

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:23 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Smithdown and Wavertree wrote:
just the fact that you're american but you've decided to list all these nationalities you're not a part of and then complain about people using the term plastic paddies


Lots of Americans do that, we be proud of our heritage matey.

Explain the response "British American" disappearing from the census in the last thirty years. It's been substituted with just "American", while German, Irish and other ethnicities have remained relatively constant.
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Postby Sebastianbourg » Fri Apr 24, 2015 8:48 am

Smithdown and Wavertree wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Lots of Americans do that, we be proud of our heritage matey.


it's considered a joke by the rest of the world though

"So, where are you from?"
"I'm Irish...from Boston!"
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri Apr 24, 2015 8:51 am

They broke the laws of the British Empire.

They should be punished and sentenced as criminals.

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Postby Smithdown and Wavertree » Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:27 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:They broke the laws of the British Empire.

They should be punished and sentenced as criminals.


the british empire was long gone by the time the PIRA were kicking off lad

edit: and while we're at it jewish partisans broke the laws of the Nazi reich, do you support them being punished and sentenced as criminals?
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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:06 am

Ardoki wrote:
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You mean a hiatus to hostilities and no real ability for people to coexist without the need to bash each other's skulls in? Yeah, I'm sure that's worth the deaths of over 7,000 innocent people.

The north of Ireland wasn't liberated. Which makes me sad as I'm half Irish. However eventually it will be, I'm very exited for that day.

How does one liberated that which does not want to be liberated? Furthermore, how? Think the Irish army is going to invade?
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Postby Smithdown and Wavertree » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:12 am

Bezkoshtovnya wrote:How does one liberated that which does not want to be liberated? Furthermore, how? Think the Irish army is going to invade?


they actually briefly considered it in 1969

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:15 am

Smithdown and Wavertree wrote:
Bezkoshtovnya wrote:How does one liberated that which does not want to be liberated? Furthermore, how? Think the Irish army is going to invade?


they actually briefly considered it in 1969

And dismissed it on grounds of being infeasible.
Partly since where British forces intervened, violence against Catholics did diminish. Partly because the Irish Defence Forces are quite small.
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Postby Aquesta » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:16 am

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Bezkoshtovnya wrote:How does one liberated that which does not want to be liberated? Furthermore, how? Think the Irish army is going to invade?


they actually briefly considered it in 1969


If i remember correctly the plan was ludicrous. The army would have had to commandeer civilian buses to get the soldiers to the north. Needless to say that plan was quickly dismissed.
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Postby Smithdown and Wavertree » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:16 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:And dismissed it on grounds of being infeasible.
Partly since where British forces intervened, violence against Catholics did diminish. Partly because the Irish Defence Forces are quite small.


yeah I don't think it was ever really seriously discussed, it wouldn't really have achieved anything beyond a lot more death than already happened

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:26 am

Aquesta wrote:
Smithdown and Wavertree wrote:
they actually briefly considered it in 1969


If i remember correctly the plan was ludicrous. The army would have had to commandeer civilian buses to get the soldiers to the north. Needless to say that plan was quickly dismissed.

Wasn't QE2 capable of being stripped down for use as a troop transport?
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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:30 am

Smithdown and Wavertree wrote:
Bezkoshtovnya wrote:How does one liberated that which does not want to be liberated? Furthermore, how? Think the Irish army is going to invade?


they actually briefly considered it in 1969

Operation....something I forget the name. Good thing they didn't go through with it, considering the would not stand a snowball's chance.
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Postby Aquesta » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:34 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
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If i remember correctly the plan was ludicrous. The army would have had to commandeer civilian buses to get the soldiers to the north. Needless to say that plan was quickly dismissed.

Wasn't QE2 capable of being stripped down for use as a troop transport?


By QE2 do you mean the ship Queen Elizabeth 2? If you are talking about the ship QE2 yes it was used as a troop transport.
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Postby Auroya » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:37 am

"Oh look, a bus!"

Yeah, nobody would seriously have gone ahead with that.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:40 am

Aquesta wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Wasn't QE2 capable of being stripped down for use as a troop transport?


By QE2 do you mean the ship Queen Elizabeth 2? If you are talking about the ship QE2 yes it was used as a troop transport.

I may have meant the QM2, since I seem to recall there was some press hubbub about how it had been built with capacity to transform into a troop transport. Easily possible to have just been a misty-eyed press rumour mill.
I was referring partly to QE2's role in the Falklands Conflict, yes.
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Postby Unionistan » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:49 am

Arana wrote:
Unionistan wrote:plastic paddy

I fucking hate that term...


But why?

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Postby Free Wexford » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:53 am

While the IRA did some pretty shady shite. The British did some equally horrid things. If British soldiers can shoot civilians and get a free pass than IRA members should have at least been given POW status.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:53 am

Unionistan wrote:
Arana wrote:I fucking hate that term...


But why?


For a kickoff Paddy is a slur in and of itself.
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Postby Free Wexford » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:54 am

Bezkoshtovnya wrote:
Smithdown and Wavertree wrote:
they actually briefly considered it in 1969

Operation....something I forget the name. Good thing they didn't go through with it, considering the would not stand a snowball's chance.


Operation Armageddon
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Postby Unionistan » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:56 am

Vassenor wrote:
Unionistan wrote:
But why?


For a kickoff Paddy is a slur in and of itself.


Nah it's context driven.

As are most things ya know

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Postby Arguethon » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:57 am

No they were terrorists

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Postby Smithdown and Wavertree » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:58 am

Free Wexford wrote:Operation Armageddon


what a fitting name

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