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What is your denomination?

Roman Catholic
249
32%
Eastern Orthodox
50
7%
Non-Chalcedonian (Oriental Orthodox, Church of the East , etc.)
9
1%
Anglican/Episcopalian
46
6%
Methodist
33
4%
Lutheran or Reformed (including Calvinist, Presbyterian, etc.)
77
10%
Baptist
84
11%
Other Evangelical Protestant (Pentecostal, non-denominational, etc.)
100
13%
Restorationist (LDS Movement, Jehovah's Witness, etc.)
28
4%
Other Christian
93
12%
 
Total votes : 769
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:17 pm

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Take comfort and know that Jesus is above all that. God is too big to be offended by the edginess.

I'll just laugh at the fact that they're going to hell.


Well that's very Christian of you.
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Postby Diopolis » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:57 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Winnopolis wrote:I'll just laugh at the fact that they're going to hell.


Well that's very Christian of you.

Iglesia ni Cristo isn't Christian.
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:59 pm

Diopolis wrote:
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Well that's very Christian of you.

Iglesia ni Cristo isn't Christian.


It's heresy, which means it is Christian, just wrong.
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Postby Menassa » Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:30 pm

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Menassa wrote:I resemble that remark!


You know, you're the second person today I've heard saying that.

You talk with a lot of Pharisees then?
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Postby Gim » Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:18 pm

Diopolis wrote:
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Well that's very Christian of you.

Iglesia ni Cristo isn't Christian.


Wishing people to go to hell isn't being very Christian.
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Postby Efraim-Judah » Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:20 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Iglesia ni Cristo isn't Christian.


It's heresy, which means it is Christian, just wrong.

:roll: They're more "Christian" than the Trinitarians.
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Postby The Hobbesian Metaphysician » Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:25 pm

Efraim-Judah wrote:
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It's heresy, which means it is Christian, just wrong.

:roll: They're more "Christian" than the Trinitarians.

Oh the irony.
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Postby Constantinopolis » Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:32 pm

You know, I wish Saint Nicholas could join this thread right now...
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Postby Gim » Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:33 pm

Constantinopolis wrote:You know, I wish Saint Nicholas could join this thread right now...


Isn't his Santa? Don't Christians say Santa Claus is evil? :?:
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Postby Efraim-Judah » Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:35 pm

Constantinopolis wrote:You know, I wish Saint Nicholas could join this thread right now...

Good. That heretic deserves a good smacking. I'll be able to repay him for his assault of Arius.
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Postby Constantinopolis » Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:46 pm

Gim wrote:
Constantinopolis wrote:You know, I wish Saint Nicholas could join this thread right now...

Isn't his Santa?

St. Nicholas was the bishop of Myra in Lycia (southern Asia Minor, present-day Turkey) in the early 4th century. Click here for a detailed account of his life.

And yes, he is the origin of the Santa Claus legend, but in a very distant way (the modern concept of "Santa Claus" is a legend that arose in the German-speaking parts of Europe in the 18th and 19th centuries, loosely based on some aspects from the life of St. Nicholas, 1400 years earlier).

But I mentioned him right now because of his famous reaction to Arius at the Council of Nicaea (and by extension his reaction to the Arian claim that Jesus is not divine).

Gim wrote:Don't Christians say Santa Claus is evil? :?:

Uh... wait, what? Huh? :eyebrow: I never heard of such a thing. Obviously Santa Claus is a legend that doesn't have much to do with Christianity, but that doesn't make it "evil".
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:47 pm

Efraim-Judah wrote:
Constantinopolis wrote:You know, I wish Saint Nicholas could join this thread right now...

Good. That heretic deserves a good smacking. I'll be able to repay him for his assault of Arius.


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Postby Gim » Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:50 pm

Constantinopolis wrote:Uh... wait, what? Huh? :eyebrow: I never heard of such a thing. Obviously Santa Claus is a legend that doesn't have much to do with Christianity, but that doesn't make it "evil".


Well, Christians contend that the focus on Santa Claus during Christmas is diverting the attention to Jesus Christ.
Christmas is supposed to be about Jesus, not Santa. Just saying. :)
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:55 pm

Gim wrote:
Constantinopolis wrote:Uh... wait, what? Huh? :eyebrow: I never heard of such a thing. Obviously Santa Claus is a legend that doesn't have much to do with Christianity, but that doesn't make it "evil".


Well, Christians contend that the focus on Santa Claus during Christmas is diverting the attention to Jesus Christ.
Christmas is supposed to be about Jesus, not Santa. Just saying. :)



Well that's complaining about commercialization. Not that Saint Nick is evil. They make the same complaints about Easter.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:56 pm

Gim wrote:
Constantinopolis wrote:You know, I wish Saint Nicholas could join this thread right now...


Isn't his Santa? Don't Christians say Santa Claus is evil? :?:


What denomination were they, the ones who told you that?
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:58 pm

Gim wrote:
Constantinopolis wrote:Uh... wait, what? Huh? :eyebrow: I never heard of such a thing. Obviously Santa Claus is a legend that doesn't have much to do with Christianity, but that doesn't make it "evil".


Well, Christians contend that the focus on Santa Claus during Christmas is diverting the attention to Jesus Christ.
Christmas is supposed to be about Jesus, not Santa. Just saying. :)


That's a different point than Santa Claus being "evil".

They just think that Santa Claus is less important, or even fictional, and thus that we should not be celebrating Christmas the way people in the West do where the focus is Santa, but rather make our focus on Jesus' birth.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:59 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Efraim-Judah wrote:Good. That heretic deserves a good smacking. I'll be able to repay him for his assault of Arius.


:palm:


I just kinda gave up on him.
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Postby Salus Maior » Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:15 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Well that's complaining about commercialization. Not that Saint Nick is evil. They make the same complaints about Easter.


Well, when you take the "n" out of Santa and put it on the end what do you get? ;P

Anyway, on a more serious note, the modern idea of Santa is pretty far from the actual Saint Nicholas. I usually think of them as two different figures, really.
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Postby Gim » Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:17 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Gim wrote:
Well, Christians contend that the focus on Santa Claus during Christmas is diverting the attention to Jesus Christ.
Christmas is supposed to be about Jesus, not Santa. Just saying. :)


That's a different point than Santa Claus being "evil".

They just think that Santa Claus is less important, or even fictional, and thus that we should not be celebrating Christmas the way people in the West do where the focus is Santa, but rather make our focus on Jesus' birth.


Well, that's what Christians think. They believe Satan supported the existence of Santa Claus to divert attention away from the celebration of Jesus Christ, hence Santa sounding similar to Satan.
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:18 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Well that's complaining about commercialization. Not that Saint Nick is evil. They make the same complaints about Easter.


Well, when you take the "n" out of Santa and put it on the end what do you get? ;P

Anyway, on a more serious note, the modern idea of Santa is pretty far from the actual Saint Nicholas.


The same is true of Jesus.

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Postby Gim » Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:19 pm

Grave_n_idle wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
Well, when you take the "n" out of Santa and put it on the end what do you get? ;P

Anyway, on a more serious note, the modern idea of Santa is pretty far from the actual Saint Nicholas.


The same is true of Jesus.

*nods*


No way, man.
Jesus' words have been the same in the Bible for years.
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Postby Salus Maior » Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:22 pm

Efraim-Judah wrote:
Constantinopolis wrote:You know, I wish Saint Nicholas could join this thread right now...

Good. That heretic deserves a good smacking. I'll be able to repay him for his assault of Arius.


This thread in a nutshell:

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Postby Gim » Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:23 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Efraim-Judah wrote:Good. That heretic deserves a good smacking. I'll be able to repay him for his assault of Arius.


This thread in a nutshell:

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And that is judging, which God does not support.
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Postby Salus Maior » Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:23 pm

Gim wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
That's a different point than Santa Claus being "evil".

They just think that Santa Claus is less important, or even fictional, and thus that we should not be celebrating Christmas the way people in the West do where the focus is Santa, but rather make our focus on Jesus' birth.


Well, that's what Christians think. They believe Satan supported the existence of Santa Claus to divert attention away from the celebration of Jesus Christ, hence Santa sounding similar to Satan.



...I don't think that is the reason, and no, not even the majority of Christians think that the character of Santa is actually Satan.
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:24 pm

Gim wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:
The same is true of Jesus.

*nods*


No way, man.
Jesus' words have been the same in the Bible for years.


Indeed. And that Jesus wouldn't even recognise any modern denomination.
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