Christian Discussion Thread V

[Threlizdun]

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[Russels Orbiting Teapot]

When your church has to print a pamphlet saying 'why the Church of Christ is not a cult' you should admit to yourself that there might be a problem.

[Lunatic Goofballs]

*twirls staple gun*

[Morr]

Yes, this is a Church of Christ thread. Yes, I want us to revive the Christianity of the bible. And, yes I am a member of a congregation which strives for biblical accuracy (And as far as I know, we do fairly well).

No, we are not a denomination (Although there are congregations who agree with each other on being biblical, so yes and no.). No, there is no "One Guy at the top" making the decisions in place of God.

And I will certainly not surrender to atheists, denominations, or "Progressive Christian" movements.

Are there any of my brothers and sisters in Christ who would like to comment? This is a general Christian discussion, so any subject is fine, as long as it's biblical.

For the past 500 years, countless iterations of Christianity have popped up claiming to be the revival of the "true" Church. I'll trust a Church that can actually trace its lineage back to Christ without break.

[Northern Freikur]

Yes, this is a Church of Christ thread. Yes, I want us to revive the Christianity of the bible. And, yes I am a member of a congregation which strives for biblical accuracy (And as far as I know, we do fairly well).

No, we are not a denomination (Although there are congregations who agree with each other on being biblical, so yes and no.). No, there is no "One Guy at the top" making the decisions in place of God.

And I will certainly not surrender to atheists, denominations, or "Progressive Christian" movements.

Are there any of my brothers and sisters in Christ who would like to comment? This is a general Christian discussion, so any subject is fine, as long as it's biblical.

Aww heck, messed up. Please disregard. Tried to create a new thread. Didn't work

[Northern Freikur]

Yes, this is a Church of Christ thread. Yes, I want us to revive the Christianity of the bible. And, yes I am a member of a congregation which strives for biblical accuracy (And as far as I know, we do fairly well).

No, we are not a denomination (Although there are congregations who agree with each other on being biblical, so yes and no.). No, there is no "One Guy at the top" making the decisions in place of God.

And I will certainly not surrender to atheists, denominations, or "Progressive Christian" movements.

Are there any of my brothers and sisters in Christ who would like to comment? This is a general Christian discussion, so any subject is fine, as long as it's biblical.

For the past 500 years, countless iterations of Christianity have popped up claiming to be the revival of the "true" Church. I'll trust a Church that can actually trace its lineage back to Christ without break.

Actually, we are restored. There were other attempts at doing so, like the lutherans, But they didn't work out. We follow only what scripture says.

[Northern Freikur]

When your church has to print a pamphlet saying 'why the Church of Christ is not a cult' you should admit to yourself that there might be a problem.

My congregation doesn't

[Northern Freikur]

When your church has to print a pamphlet saying 'why the Church of Christ is not a cult' you should admit to yourself that there might be a problem.

My congregation doesn't

I would like to ask everyone to do research on our organizational structure, You will learn why it is not a denomination, and why some congregations... well do the above.
Also, I don't want to need to explain the whole thing each time someone new logs on.
I mean this all with good respect...

[Morr]

For the past 500 years, countless iterations of Christianity have popped up claiming to be the revival of the "true" Church. I'll trust a Church that can actually trace its lineage back to Christ without break.

Actually, we are restored. There were other attempts at doing so, like the lutherans, But they didn't work out. We follow only what scripture says.

Ah, so like Jehovah's Witnesses? Or Seventh Day Adventists?

You realize your premise is incorrect to begin with? The Church is not founded on Scripture, Scripture is an addendum to the Church? It was written for people who already were Christians to begin with. And you know what else? It wasn't Scripture that chose its own canon, it was the Church that decided which books, out of the countless to choose from, would be canon. Scriptural authority is based on the Church's authority, hence when things like the Gnostic Gospels aren't in it. Sola scriptura is pure modernism.

[Coulee Croche]

No, there is no "One Guy at the top" making the decisions in place of God.

I mean, is there any Church that does? Like, i'm pretty sure the minority that do, at least don't attribute their decisions to themselves.

[Lunatic Goofballs]

Yes, this is a Church of Christ thread. Yes, I want us to revive the Christianity of the bible. And, yes I am a member of a congregation which strives for biblical accuracy (And as far as I know, we do fairly well).

No, we are not a denomination (Although there are congregations who agree with each other on being biblical, so yes and no.). No, there is no "One Guy at the top" making the decisions in place of God.

And I will certainly not surrender to atheists, denominations, or "Progressive Christian" movements.

Are there any of my brothers and sisters in Christ who would like to comment? This is a general Christian discussion, so any subject is fine, as long as it's biblical.

Aww heck, messed up. Please disregard. Tried to create a new thread. Didn't work

It worked. I merged it.

[Coulee Croche]

When your church has to print a pamphlet saying 'why the Church of Christ is not a cult' you should admit to yourself that there might be a problem.

My congregation doesn't

Can you give us the name of your congregation? There are many congregations that fit your vague description with varying amounts of beliefs.

[Coulee Croche]

Actually, we are restored. There were other attempts at doing so, like the 1. lutherans, But they didn't work out. 2. We follow only what scripture says.

1. Based upon what?
2. Which scripture?

[Lyras]

For example: Christ is the completion of law, (a given - see Romans, Hebrews) which raises the question; is law superseded by grace, or is Old Testament law continued in its prior form? In your not-denomination's exegesis, of course.

[Salus Maior]

Then you need to read the NT and see some of the things it says about Satan.

The Book of Job is a fable, a story. It's not some factual account of how the mechanics of Heaven works. God and Satan are literary characters in it, and it's about preserving through hardship (and early Christains had it harder than anyone else BECAUSE they were Christians), while discussing temporal justice in relation to God in philosophical dialogue.

Wait. Job isn't real?

I think the book is a parable, like what Jesus used, with the Good Samaritan and all that.

[Morr]

For example: Christ is the completion of law, (a given - see Romans, Hebrews) which raises the question; is law superseded by grace, or is Old Testament law continued in its prior form? In your not-denomination's exegesis, of course.

Hebrews 8:13
2 Corinthians 3:6
Romans 2:29

[Lyras]

Wait. Job isn't real?

I think the book is a parable, like what Jesus used, with the Good Samaritan and all that.

This is a fairly orthodox theological viewpoint, aye. Job is allegory, broadly speaking. Authoritative, in its own way, but allegorical, meant to teach ethics, not history.

[Morr]

Wait. Job isn't real?

I think the book is a parable, like what Jesus used, with the Good Samaritan and all that.

Most of the OT should be read tropologically.

[Czechanada]

Wait. Job isn't real?

I think the book is a parable, like what Jesus used, with the Good Samaritan and all that.

Couldn't the entire Bible be held as a parable?

[Salus Maior]

I think the book is a parable, like what Jesus used, with the Good Samaritan and all that.

Couldn't the entire Bible be held as a parable?

Not as a Christian, no. And I'm pretty sure that the founding and early workings of the church are not what you'd put in parables.

[Salus Maior]

I think the book is a parable, like what Jesus used, with the Good Samaritan and all that.

Most of the OT should be read tropologically.

Eh, I wouldn't quit go that far.

[Morr]

Most of the OT should be read tropologically.

Eh, I wouldn't quit go that far.

I would. To me, Passover was a celebration of what was to come more than a celebration of what happened. Christ fulfilled the Passover, the prior stories and celebration were a herald of Christ's coming. All of the righteous Jews before Christ found salvation through Christ.

[Menassa]

Eh, I wouldn't quit go that far.

I would. To me, Passover was a celebration of what was to come more than a celebration of what happened. Christ fulfilled the Passover, the prior stories and celebration were a herald of Christ's coming. All of the righteous Jews before Christ found salvation through Christ.

That doesn't seem very logical to say. I mean let's check out psalm 119, the longest chapter in the Bible. The Psalmist doesn't actually mention anything about Salvation through Christ but rather the benefits of the Law.

You can tout your believe that the righteous of the Old Testament had faith in Christ, but there is simply no logical evidence to support that fact.

[Morr]

I would. To me, Passover was a celebration of what was to come more than a celebration of what happened. Christ fulfilled the Passover, the prior stories and celebration were a herald of Christ's coming. All of the righteous Jews before Christ found salvation through Christ.

That doesn't seem very logical to say. I mean let's check out psalm 119, the longest chapter in the Bible. The Psalmist doesn't actually mention anything about Salvation through Christ but rather the benefits of the Law.

You can tout your believe that the righteous of the Old Testament had faith in Christ, but there is simply no logical evidence to support that fact.

Christ was the fulfillment of Law. Christ is God's Word made flesh.

[Menassa]

That doesn't seem very logical to say. I mean let's check out psalm 119, the longest chapter in the Bible. The Psalmist doesn't actually mention anything about Salvation through Christ but rather the benefits of the Law.

You can tout your believe that the righteous of the Old Testament had faith in Christ, but there is simply no logical evidence to support that fact.

Christ was the fulfillment of Law. Christ is God's Word made flesh.

I do not believe there was anything the Law that needed fulfilling.