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Ethel mermania
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat Apr 25, 2015 4:57 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:One of these days I shall be able to put my brain in standby mode again, but for some reason I just don't get blackout drunk anymore. It's almost as if I learned that the only person capable of taking care of me is myself, since other people would just stand aside and laugh while I choke to death on my own vomit.

That's not true.
We wouldn't all laugh.

I would grav the back of his head and tilt it so he doesn't choke on his own vomit, but I would laugh.
https://www.hvst.com/posts/the-clash-of ... s-wl2TQBpY

The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.
--S. Huntington

The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 

--H. Kissenger

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Postby Hurdegaryp » Sat Apr 25, 2015 4:58 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:One of these days I shall be able to put my brain in standby mode again, but for some reason I just don't get blackout drunk anymore. It's almost as if I learned that the only person capable of taking care of me is myself, since other people would just stand aside and laugh while I choke to death on my own vomit.

That's not true.
We wouldn't all laugh.

I made a conscious decision not to be subtle about it at all, because why bother? You know how it is.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby Spoder » Sat Apr 25, 2015 5:00 pm

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Spoder wrote:The sheer fact that TET exists sometimes disgusts me.

Nothing and nobody forces you to participate. You are free to leave. Save yourself & never return to this den of inequity again!

I want to participate.

It's just that sometimes I can't even get my head around it, other times I see as an embodiment of some of the least desirable human characteristics.
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Kannap
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Postby Kannap » Sat Apr 25, 2015 5:01 pm

I'm far bored.
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Ethel mermania
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat Apr 25, 2015 5:02 pm

Spoder wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:Nothing and nobody forces you to participate. You are free to leave. Save yourself & never return to this den of inequity again!

I want to participate.

It's just that sometimes I can't even get my head around it, other times I see as an embodiment of some of the least desirable human characteristics.

Least desirwble? You should try the real world sometime.
https://www.hvst.com/posts/the-clash-of ... s-wl2TQBpY

The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.
--S. Huntington

The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 

--H. Kissenger

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Postby Jute » Sat Apr 25, 2015 5:02 pm

Val Halla wrote:
Jute wrote:Uhh... :? You're probably right in thinking that...

Eh, I don't blame you. Some are funny.

That, too. But also, I don't know, kinda helpful, providing a new perspective or how other people have had similar feelings to mine before?
Carl Sagan, astrophysicist and atheist wrote:"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality.
When we recognize our place in an immensity of light-years and in the passage of ages,
when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling,
that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual...
The notion that science and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both."
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Postby Jute » Sat Apr 25, 2015 5:03 pm

Spoder wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:Nothing and nobody forces you to participate. You are free to leave. Save yourself & never return to this den of inequity again!

I want to participate.

It's just that sometimes I can't even get my head around it, other times I see as an embodiment of some of the least desirable human characteristics.

Examples?
Carl Sagan, astrophysicist and atheist wrote:"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality.
When we recognize our place in an immensity of light-years and in the passage of ages,
when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling,
that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual...
The notion that science and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both."
Italios wrote:Jute's probably some sort of Robin Hood-type outlaw
"Boys and girls so happy, young and gay / Don't let false worldly joy carry your hearts away."

See the Jutean language! Talk to me about all. Avian air force flag (via) Is Religion Dangerous?

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Postby Hurdegaryp » Sat Apr 25, 2015 5:03 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Spoder wrote:I want to participate.

It's just that sometimes I can't even get my head around it, other times I see as an embodiment of some of the least desirable human characteristics.

Least desirable? You should try the real world sometime.

There's something to be said for that, yes. There's a whole world out there, full of experiences and amazing discoveries. Also alcohol. Let's not forget the alcohol.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat Apr 25, 2015 5:05 pm

Kannap wrote:I'm far bored.

Come Closer, be near bored.
https://www.hvst.com/posts/the-clash-of ... s-wl2TQBpY

The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.
--S. Huntington

The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 

--H. Kissenger

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Ethel mermania
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat Apr 25, 2015 5:07 pm

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Least desirable? You should try the real world sometime.

There's something to be said for that, yes. There's a whole world out there, full of experiences and amazing discoveries. Also alcohol. Let's not forget the alcohol.

It's a lovely thing , this alcohol, but I meant the rewl world as a cold cruel thing
https://www.hvst.com/posts/the-clash-of ... s-wl2TQBpY

The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.
--S. Huntington

The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 

--H. Kissenger

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Postby Spoder » Sat Apr 25, 2015 5:11 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Spoder wrote:I want to participate.

It's just that sometimes I can't even get my head around it, other times I see as an embodiment of some of the least desirable human characteristics.

Least desirwble? You should try the real world sometime.

Sloth.

Gluttony.

More gluttony.

More sloth.
Legalize gay weed
Time to get aesthetic.
I support insanely high tax rates, do you?

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Ethel mermania
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat Apr 25, 2015 5:12 pm

Spoder wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Least desirwble? You should try the real world sometime.

Sloth.

Gluttony.

More gluttony.

More sloth.

Again those are the good parts.
https://www.hvst.com/posts/the-clash-of ... s-wl2TQBpY

The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.
--S. Huntington

The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 

--H. Kissenger

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Postby Spoder » Sat Apr 25, 2015 5:14 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Spoder wrote:Sloth.

Gluttony.

More gluttony.

More sloth.

Again those are the good parts.

I know.

That's why I have a love/hate relationship with the existence of the thread.
Legalize gay weed
Time to get aesthetic.
I support insanely high tax rates, do you?

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Postby Kannap » Sat Apr 25, 2015 5:15 pm

I'm not even going to beat around the bush and try to settle this in, I'm just going to say what I have to say. I've felt guilty about lying and need to stop the lying.

I only hope that I am not hated and pushed from the site like the last person who frequented TET and was discovered to be lying about who they really are.

I suppose I lied just because I was kind of envious of who I was pretending to be and really wanted to be that person deep down, but I've lately IRL become more content with who I am even though the majority of the people around me hate people like me, since gay people are highly looked down upon in North Carolina.

To be fair, 99% of what you guys know about me is true.

I am not female however, I am a gay male. I am 18 though and do live in North Carolina in the town you guys thought did not exist as you thought it was the fictional capitol of Kannap.
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Postby Spoder » Sat Apr 25, 2015 5:17 pm

Kannap wrote:I'm not even going to beat around the bush and try to settle this in, I'm just going to say what I have to say. I've felt guilty about lying and need to stop the lying.

I only hope that I am not hated and pushed from the site like the last person who frequented TET and was discovered to be lying about who they really are.

I suppose I lied just because I was kind of envious of who I was pretending to be and really wanted to be that person deep down, but I've lately IRL become more content with who I am even though the majority of the people around me hate people like me, since gay people are highly looked down upon in North Carolina.

To be fair, 99% of what you guys know about me is true.

I am not female however, I am a gay male. I am 18 though and do live in North Carolina in the town you guys thought did not exist as you thought it was the fictional capitol of Kannap.

Why would anybody hate you?
Legalize gay weed
Time to get aesthetic.
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Postby Kannap » Sat Apr 25, 2015 5:21 pm

Spoder wrote:
Kannap wrote:I'm not even going to beat around the bush and try to settle this in, I'm just going to say what I have to say. I've felt guilty about lying and need to stop the lying.

I only hope that I am not hated and pushed from the site like the last person who frequented TET and was discovered to be lying about who they really are.

I suppose I lied just because I was kind of envious of who I was pretending to be and really wanted to be that person deep down, but I've lately IRL become more content with who I am even though the majority of the people around me hate people like me, since gay people are highly looked down upon in North Carolina.

To be fair, 99% of what you guys know about me is true.

I am not female however, I am a gay male. I am 18 though and do live in North Carolina in the town you guys thought did not exist as you thought it was the fictional capitol of Kannap.

Why would anybody hate you?


I was only going off of what happened to Benshir as what would likely happen to me on here. She(?) turned out not to be who she claimed to be and was practically pushed off the site by users, if I'm not mistaken. :?
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat Apr 25, 2015 5:23 pm

Kannap wrote:I'm not even going to beat around the bush and try to settle this in, I'm just going to say what I have to say. I've felt guilty about lying and need to stop the lying.

I only hope that I am not hated and pushed from the site like the last person who frequented TET and was discovered to be lying about who they really are.

I suppose I lied just because I was kind of envious of who I was pretending to be and really wanted to be that person deep down, but I've lately IRL become more content with who I am even though the majority of the people around me hate people like me, since gay people are highly looked down upon in North Carolina.

To be fair, 99% of what you guys know about me is true.

I am not female however, I am a gay male. I am 18 though and do live in North Carolina in the town you guys thought did not exist as you thought it was the fictional capitol of Kannap.

Your as religious as you have claimed to be?
https://www.hvst.com/posts/the-clash-of ... s-wl2TQBpY

The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.
--S. Huntington

The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 

--H. Kissenger

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Postby Spoder » Sat Apr 25, 2015 5:27 pm

Kannap wrote:
Spoder wrote:Why would anybody hate you?


I was only going off of what happened to Benshir as what would likely happen to me on here. She(?) turned out not to be who she claimed to be and was practically pushed off the site by users, if I'm not mistaken. :?

Well that's silly and immature of this site.
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Postby Esternial » Sat Apr 25, 2015 5:30 pm

Kannap wrote:
Spoder wrote:Why would anybody hate you?


I was only going off of what happened to Benshir as what would likely happen to me on here. She(?) turned out not to be who she claimed to be and was practically pushed off the site by users, if I'm not mistaken. :?

Nope, she left as soon as her lie was discovered.

Frankly, it's not really smart to lie like that. It makes it harder for them to trust you. I don't particularly mind. Since you came clean now it's obviously proof you've put some more value in being a part of whatever community you're part of here.

That said, if you were a close friend of mine and I discovered it rather than be told by you, I would put our friendship in the freezer then and there. All in all, coming clean was the right move.

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Postby Esternial » Sat Apr 25, 2015 5:32 pm

Spoder wrote:
Kannap wrote:
I was only going off of what happened to Benshir as what would likely happen to me on here. She(?) turned out not to be who she claimed to be and was practically pushed off the site by users, if I'm not mistaken. :?

Well that's silly and immature of this site.

Also not what happened, but way to judge us all pre-emptively.

That's kinda what these non-existent people that pushed Benshi away would have done.
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Postby Kannap » Sat Apr 25, 2015 5:33 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Kannap wrote:I'm not even going to beat around the bush and try to settle this in, I'm just going to say what I have to say. I've felt guilty about lying and need to stop the lying.

I only hope that I am not hated and pushed from the site like the last person who frequented TET and was discovered to be lying about who they really are.

I suppose I lied just because I was kind of envious of who I was pretending to be and really wanted to be that person deep down, but I've lately IRL become more content with who I am even though the majority of the people around me hate people like me, since gay people are highly looked down upon in North Carolina.

To be fair, 99% of what you guys know about me is true.

I am not female however, I am a gay male. I am 18 though and do live in North Carolina in the town you guys thought did not exist as you thought it was the fictional capitol of Kannap.

Your as religious as you have claimed to be?


Ah, yes, I was baptized at the age of 16 and become a member of the Presbyterian Church of the U.S.A. the same exact day and have been super religious since then. The PC(USA) took a stance last year to support same sex relationships and allow their preachers to wed same sex couples in states where it is legal. I also will be going to the Presbyterian college that is Montreat College starting in August.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Sat Apr 25, 2015 5:34 pm

Spoder wrote:
Kannap wrote:I was only going off of what happened to Benshir as what would likely happen to me on here. She(?) turned out not to be who she claimed to be and was practically pushed off the site by users, if I'm not mistaken. :?

Well that's silly and immature of this site.

Benshir pretty much removed herself, as far as I know. Kannap is still a person, so it's all good as far as I'm concerned. I might have felt a mild shock if Kannap had turned out to be a particularly advanced Cleverbot.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby Kannap » Sat Apr 25, 2015 5:35 pm

Esternial wrote:
Kannap wrote:
I was only going off of what happened to Benshir as what would likely happen to me on here. She(?) turned out not to be who she claimed to be and was practically pushed off the site by users, if I'm not mistaken. :?

Nope, she left as soon as her lie was discovered.

Frankly, it's not really smart to lie like that. It makes it harder for them to trust you. I don't particularly mind. Since you came clean now it's obviously proof you've put some more value in being a part of whatever community you're part of here.

That said, if you were a close friend of mine and I discovered it rather than be told by you, I would put our friendship in the freezer then and there. All in all, coming clean was the right move.


I suppose the big benefit is I can be me and not have to stress about lying anymore. I have been feeling guilty about all the lying on here for about a year now, at least. Maybe a year and a half. I was just always afraid to confess the lie because I feared being an outcast and hated.
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Postby Spoder » Sat Apr 25, 2015 5:35 pm

Esternial wrote:
Spoder wrote:Well that's silly and immature of this site.

Also not what happened, but way to judge us all pre-emptively.

That's kinda what these non-existent people that pushed Benshi away would have done.

Well with the information presented, it seemed that the site pushed Benshir away.

If Benshir left themselves, then that was silly of them.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Sat Apr 25, 2015 5:36 pm

Spoder wrote:
Esternial wrote:Also not what happened, but way to judge us all pre-emptively.

That's kinda what these non-existent people that pushed Benshi away would have done.

Well with the information presented, it seemed that the site pushed Benshir away.

If Benshir left themselves, then that was silly of them.

It was all very silly, yes.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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