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Should Tsarnaev be sentenced to life or death?

Life without parole
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Burleson 2
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Postby Burleson 2 » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:49 pm

Eastfield Lodge wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Don't waste your time trying to use reason and logic.

I don't think my time was wasted, I got some kicks out of writing that.
Burleson 2 wrote:They don't do that. They play a parody of "If Heaven Ain't a Lot Like Dixie" by Hank Williams Jr. called "If Heaven Ain't a Lot Like Boston" and they don't do the picture of mohammed.

Do they do Jesus instead?

What would be the point of that? The reasoning behind pinning a picture of mohammed to someone's ass is that it's against islam to have a picture of mohammed.
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Lol Democracy wrote:We should give him a Qur'an with a picture of Mohammed as the watermark on every page, can't remove stuff from the Qur'an, can't make pictures of Mohammed > Islam Explodes

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Postby MERIZoC » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:51 pm

Burleson 2 wrote:
Eastfield Lodge wrote:I don't think my time was wasted, I got some kicks out of writing that.

Do they do Jesus instead?

What would be the point of that? The reasoning behind pinning a picture of mohammed to someone's ass is that it's against islam to have a picture of mohammed.

Pro tip: We're making jokes.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:51 pm

Ifreann wrote:What are you talking about now?

Didn't you know? Europe is a smouldering crater because we don't all execute people. [/quote]

Must of have missed it when I was last there. Granted its been a few years.

Maybe we should show him what it was like for speaking ill of the king or government?
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:52 pm

Scomagia wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:Sentence him to life imprisonment, then put him in general population. He'd be dead in five minutes, so everybody wins!

Also, can Muslims still get into heaven after taking it up the ass from Big Bubba?

Supporting murder and rape in the same post?

Stay classy.

Where did I say "I hope he gets raped and killed in prison"?

Hint: I didn't.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:54 pm

Laanvia wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:It? Really?

Have you got a problem with me referring to a Terrorist as "it" or would you prefer me to call him something like "the lovely man"? :roll: :eyebrow:


*shrugs* Well that's probably how the terrorists view you.
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Postby Salus Maior » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:54 pm

While I normally advocate for the death penalty for such bastards, he'll become a martyr. Life without parole.
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Postby Eastfield Lodge » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:54 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Supporting murder and rape in the same post?

Stay classy.

Where did I say "I hope he gets raped and killed in prison"?

Hint: I didn't.

You're advocating his placement into general for the purpose of him dying, the only realistic route being through murder, ergo you are advocating murder.
Just because you didn't say it outright doesn't everybody is stupid enough to miss the reasoning behind the post.
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Postby Vasileus » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:54 pm

Nazi Flower Power wrote:
Noraika wrote:You have another suggestion? What punishment can be enforced which will come close to bringing justice to the 285 lives this thing has destroyed and damaged?


Can I ask where you live? Cos I think justice for the people affected would be to punish him in accordance with our state laws -- not the laws where we have to compromise with people from 49 other states, and Texas has more influence than we do.

The Boston marathon is a multi-state, multinational event anyway. My old high school geography teacher was almost at the finish line when it went off, so surely keeping justice for some rather than all is a bit state-centric, anyway?
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Postby MERIZoC » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:55 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Laanvia wrote:Have you got a problem with me referring to a Terrorist as "it" or would you prefer me to call him something like "the lovely man"? :roll: :eyebrow:


*shrugs* Well that's probably how the terrorists view you.

As a lovely man? :p

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Postby Novus America » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:55 pm

Page wrote:
Vasileus wrote:The other arguments about torture are really rather odd though. It seems like people who want him to suffer are more interested in the suffering itself rather that justice


I agree. Delightful to realize how depraved our species is, isn't it?


You just realized? You do realize we are just hyper-predatory apes right? Why are you suprised?

See the Holocaust. Human depravity is nothing new.
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Postby Burleson 2 » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:56 pm

Vasileus wrote:
Nazi Flower Power wrote:
Can I ask where you live? Cos I think justice for the people affected would be to punish him in accordance with our state laws -- not the laws where we have to compromise with people from 49 other states, and Texas has more influence than we do.

The Boston marathon is a multi-state, multinational event anyway. My old high school geography teacher was almost at the finish line when it went off, so surely keeping justice for some rather than all is a bit state-centric, anyway?

I say we do things according to 19th century Mississippi law for this thing.
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Italios wrote:In the south, Yankee sometimes is an insult. In the North East, it's not. In Boston, it's a declaration of war.

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Ieperithem wrote:Hopefully. A nation whose majority consists of "aspiring artists", SNAP recipients, and identity politics obsessed professional victims rather than policemen, engineers, and farmers isn't going to last long.

Lol Democracy wrote:We should give him a Qur'an with a picture of Mohammed as the watermark on every page, can't remove stuff from the Qur'an, can't make pictures of Mohammed > Islam Explodes

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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:57 pm

Merizoc wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
*shrugs* Well that's probably how the terrorists view you.

As a lovely man? :p


Wellllll it could be slang!



Bastard.

:D
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Postby Lol Democracy » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:57 pm

Burleson 2 wrote:
Eastfield Lodge wrote:I don't think my time was wasted, I got some kicks out of writing that.

Do they do Jesus instead?

What would be the point of that? The reasoning behind pinning a picture of mohammed to someone's ass is that it's against islam to have a picture of mohammed.

We should give him a Qur'an with a picture of Mohammed as the watermark on every page, can't remove stuff from the Qur'an, can't make pictures of Mohammed > Islam Explodes
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:58 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Supporting murder and rape in the same post?

Stay classy.

Where did I say "I hope he gets raped and killed in prison"?

Hint: I didn't.


Maybe you need to write it better?
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Postby MERIZoC » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:59 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Merizoc wrote:As a lovely man? :p


Wellllll it could be slang!



Bastard.

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Postby Herskerstad » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:59 pm

Lol Democracy wrote:
Burleson 2 wrote:What would be the point of that? The reasoning behind pinning a picture of mohammed to someone's ass is that it's against islam to have a picture of mohammed.

We should give him a Qur'an with a picture of Mohammed as the watermark on every page, can't remove stuff from the Qur'an, can't make pictures of Mohammed > Islam Explodes


Or we could commission a Charlie Hebdo Illustrated Quran in honor of his name. With follow-up of the hadiths for future martyrs if they seek to continue his mantle.
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Postby Scomagia » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:59 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Supporting murder and rape in the same post?

Stay classy.

Where did I say "I hope he gets raped and killed in prison"?

Hint: I didn't.

You implied both in the bolded sections.

The Two Jerseys wrote:Sentence him to life imprisonment, then put him in general population. He'd be dead in five minutes, so everybody wins!

Also, can Muslims still get into heaven after taking it up the ass from Big Bubba?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Apr 11, 2015 1:00 pm

Burleson 2 wrote:
Vasileus wrote:The Boston marathon is a multi-state, multinational event anyway. My old high school geography teacher was almost at the finish line when it went off, so surely keeping justice for some rather than all is a bit state-centric, anyway?

I say we do things according to 19th century Mississippi law for this thing.


Mississippi? Who wrote the laws for them?
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* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Arkiasis » Sat Apr 11, 2015 1:01 pm

Life without parole because the death penalty is an archaic practise that shouldn't exist in any reasonable modern society. The strength of a society's resolve is how they manage to retain their humanity against the one's who wish to seek the most harm against it.

And I've never met someone who supports the death penalty who isn't a complete hypocrite. The same people almost always oppose abortion and oppose euthanasia and assisted suicide.
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Postby Novus America » Sat Apr 11, 2015 1:01 pm

Vasileus wrote:
Nazi Flower Power wrote:
Can I ask where you live? Cos I think justice for the people affected would be to punish him in accordance with our state laws -- not the laws where we have to compromise with people from 49 other states, and Texas has more influence than we do.

The Boston marathon is a multi-state, multinational event anyway. My old high school geography teacher was almost at the finish line when it went off, so surely keeping justice for some rather than all is a bit state-centric, anyway?


He committed numerous state AND federal crimes. Both the state and federal government will punish him.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Sat Apr 11, 2015 1:02 pm

Kaitjan wrote:
Ifreann wrote:What does bringing justice to those people mean to you, exactly? No amount of torturing Dzhokhar will bring the dead back to life, nor regrow lost limbs, nor undo any injury or trauma, so that can't be it. Is the aim simply to hurt him until those people feel they've been avenged? Because in that case you might want to use the word "revenge" instead of "justice".


Killing Tsarnaev might give those of his victims that survived, or the families of the dead, some solace or relief.


And it might be upsetting to others.
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Postby Eastfield Lodge » Sat Apr 11, 2015 1:02 pm

Herskerstad wrote:
Lol Democracy wrote:We should give him a Qur'an with a picture of Mohammed as the watermark on every page, can't remove stuff from the Qur'an, can't make pictures of Mohammed > Islam Explodes


Or we could commission a Charlie Hebdo Illustrated Quran in honor of his name. With follow-up of the hadiths for future martyrs if they seek to continue his mantle.

What is it with everybody determined to insult his religion alongside the punishment being handed out?
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Postby Burleson 2 » Sat Apr 11, 2015 1:04 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Burleson 2 wrote:I say we do things according to 19th century Mississippi law for this thing.


Mississippi? Who wrote the laws for them?

Their state government I'm assuming... :eyebrow:
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Italios wrote:In the south, Yankee sometimes is an insult. In the North East, it's not. In Boston, it's a declaration of war.

Alveda King wrote:To equate homosexuality with race is to give a death sentence to civil rights.

Ieperithem wrote:Hopefully. A nation whose majority consists of "aspiring artists", SNAP recipients, and identity politics obsessed professional victims rather than policemen, engineers, and farmers isn't going to last long.

Lol Democracy wrote:We should give him a Qur'an with a picture of Mohammed as the watermark on every page, can't remove stuff from the Qur'an, can't make pictures of Mohammed > Islam Explodes

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Postby Burleson 2 » Sat Apr 11, 2015 1:04 pm

Eastfield Lodge wrote:
Herskerstad wrote:
Or we could commission a Charlie Hebdo Illustrated Quran in honor of his name. With follow-up of the hadiths for future martyrs if they seek to continue his mantle.

What is it with everybody determined to insult his religion alongside the punishment being handed out?

His "religion" is anti-America. Therefore, America must be anti-islam.
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Italios wrote:In the south, Yankee sometimes is an insult. In the North East, it's not. In Boston, it's a declaration of war.

Alveda King wrote:To equate homosexuality with race is to give a death sentence to civil rights.

Ieperithem wrote:Hopefully. A nation whose majority consists of "aspiring artists", SNAP recipients, and identity politics obsessed professional victims rather than policemen, engineers, and farmers isn't going to last long.

Lol Democracy wrote:We should give him a Qur'an with a picture of Mohammed as the watermark on every page, can't remove stuff from the Qur'an, can't make pictures of Mohammed > Islam Explodes

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Postby Koopaville » Sat Apr 11, 2015 1:06 pm

Kill the subhuman on April 22. But no, Obama will probably pardon him and send to "rehabilitation" so that 5 years from now, he'll blow up some other marathon, or worse.

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