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Should Tsarnaev be sentenced to life or death?

Life without parole
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Postby Vasileus » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:30 pm

The man came to the US, on the US's generosity, and by becoming a permanent resident entered into a social contract to do no harm to the State or the People

The fact that he did makes him both a murderer and a traitor, and he should be put to death.

The other arguments about torture are really rather odd though. It seems like people who want him to suffer are more interested in the suffering itself rather that justice
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Postby The Northumbrian Republic » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:31 pm

Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:Life with possibility of parole, given that rehabilitation works.

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Postby Page » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:31 pm

Vasileus wrote:The other arguments about torture are really rather odd though. It seems like people who want him to suffer are more interested in the suffering itself rather that justice


I agree. Delightful to realize how depraved our species is, isn't it?
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Postby Castille de Italia » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:32 pm

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Postby Noraika » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:34 pm

Page wrote:
Vasileus wrote:The other arguments about torture are really rather odd though. It seems like people who want him to suffer are more interested in the suffering itself rather that justice


I agree. Delightful to realize how depraved our species is, isn't it?

285 eyes were gouged out through is actions (figuratively of course, although some not so much), and he only has two eyes we can gouge out for retribution. Death is only the equivalent of 0.7% of what the punishment, if it were to be proportionate, would be. He has quite a gap to make up, and additional suffering will bring him closer, but I don't think it will ever be fully proportionate.
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Postby Mizrad » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:36 pm

Life in prison and death are two of the few things that genuinely scare the hell out of me so him getting either is pretty good in my book. Knowing people in Boston though, if they can give him it, he's getting the death penalty.
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Postby Vettrera » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:38 pm

Whichever one he doesn't want.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:39 pm

Imperial City-States wrote:
Ifreann wrote:As opposed to the Americans advocating for unconstitutionally torturing him to death?




Sticking him in Prison is not torture. Well, for him it would be but that's a different story. From what i've seen there are only two people who are advocating out of the box things.

You yourself advocated for him to be raped in prison, which is very illegal.


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What are you talking about now?

Didn't you know? Europe is a smouldering crater because we don't all execute people.


Mizrad wrote:Life in prison and death are two of the few things that genuinely scare the hell out of me so him getting either is pretty good in my book. Knowing people in Boston though, if they can give him it, he's getting the death penalty.

Which raises some questions about why the trial was allowed to happen in Boston.
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Postby Burleson 2 » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:39 pm

Laanvia wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:It? Really?

Have you got a problem with me referring to a Terrorist as "it" or would you prefer me to call him something like "the lovely man"? :roll: :eyebrow:

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Postby Vettrera » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:40 pm

Noraika wrote:
Page wrote:
I agree. Delightful to realize how depraved our species is, isn't it?

285 eyes were gouged out through is actions (figuratively of course, although some not so much), and he only has two eyes we can gouge out for retribution. Death is only the equivalent of 0.7% of what the punishment, if it were to be proportionate, would be. He has quite a gap to make up, and additional suffering will bring him closer, but I don't think it will ever be fully proportionate.

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Postby MERIZoC » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:40 pm

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Burleson 2 wrote:Tsarnaev should be paraded through Boston while people throw fruit covered with bacon grease at him. Then taken to Fenway Park to be hung with his mouth full of bacon and a picture of mohammed nailed to his ass while "In America" by Charlie Daniels is playing. And his body should be dumped 25 hours after his death in a shallow stream with a public outhouse built over it.


You do know it's not the 17th century, yeah? Yes, Massachusetts is quaint and historic, but it's not THAT quaint.

Really? I thought they did that to Yankees fans quite regularly.

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Postby Eastfield Lodge » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:42 pm

Burleson 2 wrote:
Laanvia wrote:Have you got a problem with me referring to a Terrorist as "it" or would you prefer me to call him something like "the lovely man"? :roll: :eyebrow:

:clap:

Unless a new subspecies of homo sapiens has just been discovered, Tsarnaev is still homo sapiens sapiens, and thus is still a human being.
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Postby Imperial City-States » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:42 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Imperial City-States wrote:Sticking him in Prison is not torture. Well, for him it would be but that's a different story. From what i've seen there are only two people who are advocating out of the box things.

You yourself advocated for him to be raped in prison, which is very illegal.


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I said that it was likely to happen. A side effect of being in the system is rather unfortunate, You either Hang him or put him in prison for life. Your choice mate. Honestly i want him to suffer. he crippled dozens of people, permenantly
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Postby Mizrad » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:43 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Imperial City-States wrote:
Sticking him in Prison is not torture. Well, for him it would be but that's a different story. From what i've seen there are only two people who are advocating out of the box things.

You yourself advocated for him to be raped in prison, which is very illegal.


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What are you talking about now?

Didn't you know? Europe is a smouldering crater because we don't all execute people.


Mizrad wrote:Life in prison and death are two of the few things that genuinely scare the hell out of me so him getting either is pretty good in my book. Knowing people in Boston though, if they can give him it, he's getting the death penalty.

Which raises some questions about why the trial was allowed to happen in Boston.


Ifreann the same thing would've happened anywhere else. He'd be getting life in prison or death anywhere in the US, it's just that people around here are more sensitive with the subject. Same thing with New Yorkers and 9/11 to people in the UK and IRA bombings.
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Postby Scomagia » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:43 pm

Eastfield Lodge wrote:
Burleson 2 wrote: :clap:

Unless a new subspecies of homo sapiens has just been discovered, Tsarnaev is still homo sapiens sapiens, and thus is still a human being.

Don't waste your time trying to use reason and logic.
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Postby Burleson 2 » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:44 pm

Merizoc wrote:
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You do know it's not the 17th century, yeah? Yes, Massachusetts is quaint and historic, but it's not THAT quaint.

Really? I thought they did that to Yankees fans quite regularly.

They don't do that. They play a parody of "If Heaven Ain't a Lot Like Dixie" by Hank Williams Jr. called "If Heaven Ain't a Lot Like Boston" and they don't do the picture of mohammed.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:45 pm

Sentence him to life imprisonment, then put him in general population. He'd be dead in five minutes, so everybody wins!

Also, can Muslims still get into heaven after taking it up the ass from Big Bubba?
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Postby Mizrad » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:45 pm

Merizoc wrote:
Nazi Flower Power wrote:
You do know it's not the 17th century, yeah? Yes, Massachusetts is quaint and historic, but it's not THAT quaint.

Really? I thought they did that to Yankees fans quite regularly.


Nah not anymore.

We ran out of shallow streams :p

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Ifreann wrote:You yourself advocated for him to be raped in prison, which is very illegal.


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I said that it was likely to happen. A side effect of being in the system is rather unfortunate, You either Hang him or put him in prison for life. Your choice mate. Honestly i want him to suffer. he crippled dozens of people, permenantly


The odds of other prisoners doing anything to him are actually really low considering he would be kept away from them and isolated. Correctional officers have to put people who are looked down up by other criminals [Like rapists or in this case terrorists] in either designated prisons or sections of prisons.
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Postby Gun Manufacturers » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:46 pm

Kaitjan wrote:I find it disgusting that some people here argue for giving him "rehabilitation" and a chance of parole. Many people do not deserve a certain chance, not with all the blood and suffering on their hands. Tsarnaev is such a person. Personally I would have him executed. And I don't understand the whole "Don't kill him, he'll become a Martyr to the terrorists" viewpoint. So what? Putting him in jail for the rest of his life does not prevent anyone to worship or respect him, at least if they want to. What is the differance between: "Allah Akhbar, he is a martyr because he died in holy Jihad in the defence of the Cause" and "Allah Akhbar, he stoutly sacrificed his freedom for the glory of the Cause"

What differance does that make?

Shoot the bastard, he does not deserve better. God I hate the "Everyone deserves a chance" people.


Hopefully, by the time he dies in a Supermax prison, people will have forgotten what his name is, or that he even exists.
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Postby Eastfield Lodge » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:46 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Eastfield Lodge wrote:Unless a new subspecies of homo sapiens has just been discovered, Tsarnaev is still homo sapiens sapiens, and thus is still a human being.

Don't waste your time trying to use reason and logic.

I don't think my time was wasted, I got some kicks out of writing that.
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Merizoc wrote:Really? I thought they did that to Yankees fans quite regularly.

They don't do that. They play a parody of "If Heaven Ain't a Lot Like Dixie" by Hank Williams Jr. called "If Heaven Ain't a Lot Like Boston" and they don't do the picture of mohammed.

Do they do Jesus instead?
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Postby Scomagia » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:48 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:Sentence him to life imprisonment, then put him in general population. He'd be dead in five minutes, so everybody wins!

Also, can Muslims still get into heaven after taking it up the ass from Big Bubba?

Supporting murder and rape in the same post?

Stay classy.
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Postby Greed and Death » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:49 pm

I acknowledge that the violence of killing him would feel good and satisfying, however I refuse to make him a martyr so I would rather he rot in prison.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:49 pm

Noraika wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:This is so pointless I can barely muster the energy to type how pointless that notion is.

The kid doesn't have a neck anymore. What the fuck harm is he going to cause now?

You have another suggestion? What punishment can be enforced which will come close to bringing justice to the 285 lives this thing has destroyed and damaged?


Can I ask where you live? Cos I think justice for the people affected would be to punish him in accordance with our state laws -- not the laws where we have to compromise with people from 49 other states, and Texas has more influence than we do.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:49 pm

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What are you talking about now?

Some people here seem to want to "rehabilitate" Tsarnaev in the same manner as the Danish government rehabilitate this ISIS fighter by first sending him to a psychiatrist than paying him college. Such ways of being soft to murderous is not a moral option.


Who here said he should be freed?
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Postby Noraika » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:49 pm

Imperial City-States wrote:I said that it was likely to happen. A side effect of being in the system is rather unfortunate, You either Hang him or put him in prison for life. Your choice mate. Honestly i want him to suffer. he crippled dozens of people, permenantly

Then death and torture are our only options. Otherwise he will likely be placed in a maximum security prison, so that would mean almost, if any, contact with any prisoners, and he's in a cell 23/24 hours of the day anyway. He won't have issues with remorse either seeing as how he showed none when on trial.
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