Tsarnaev to be sentenced April 21: Life or Death?

[Kaitjan]

Killing Tsarnaev might give those of his victims that survived, or the families of the dead, some solace or relief. "Nothing will bring the dead back." Yeah, as if that is a reason not to kill him. Why are we even bothering to imporison people again? That won't bring anybody back, and its inhumane to keep people in jail. Who are we to take their rights to freedom away, right?

Because infringing on their rights is better than taking them away permanently?

So what? Its inhumane and no one deserves to live out their life in jail.

[Lol Democracy]

So, what, we're just going to descend into barbarism because someone was horribly violent?

No thanks. I'll keep my American values.

I think your American values turned to ashes with the internal organs of a few thousand Pakistani children droned to death by Bush and Obama.

The only thing that Bush made burn was the World Trade Center

[Ceannairceach]

That would be studying him, not experimenting on him

Study it, then. Thoroughly. It and whoever does the same, look for patterns, solutions or weaknesses. we need to know our enemy.

Tsarnaev is a "he," not an "it." Whatever he's done, he's still a person with rights and liberties. One of those rights is to be treated like a human being.

It does absolutely nothing positive for America or the war on terror to dehumanize those who commit acts of terrorism.

[Imperial City-States]

It's amusing watching all of the Europeans cry about the United State's two possible choices on this guy...

[Kaitjan]

Whatever you said

In my opinion he has wasted all his right to any rights. He killed over 200 people. He took away all their rights. And allowing him to keep his rights are disgusting.

The question of efficiency and cost has come up several time. Now, I am not an American, but I fail to see why its impossible to adjust the system to be more efficient. A bullet in the head is not that expensive, In in Tsarnaevs case I don't understand why it all the legal stuff would cost that much. Because come on, he is a terrorist.

[The Black Forrest]

So, what, we're just going to descend into barbarism because someone was horribly violent?

No thanks. I'll keep my American values.

I think your American values turned to ashes with the internal organs of a few thousand Pakistani children droned to death by Bush and Obama.

Well that kind of logic pretty much dooms every nation.

Let the missiles fly.

[Lol Democracy]

Whatever you said

In my opinion he has wasted all his right to any rights. He killed over 200 people. He took away all their rights. And allowing him to keep his rights are disgusting.

The question of efficiency and cost has come up several time. Now, I am not an American, but I fail to see why its impossible to adjust the system to be more efficient. A bullet in the head is not that expensive, In in Tsarnaevs case I don't understand why it all the legal stuff would cost that much. Because come on, he is a terrorist.

3 people. He killed 3 people. And he injured 200 people.

[The Black Forrest]

Whatever you said

In my opinion he has wasted all his right to any rights. He killed over 200 people.

Divide that number by 50.

[Ceannairceach]

Whatever you said

In my opinion he has wasted all his right to any rights. He killed over 200 people. He took away all their rights. And allowing him to keep his rights are disgusting.

The question of efficiency and cost has come up several time. Now, I am not an American, but I fail to see why its impossible to adjust the system to be more efficient. A bullet in the head is not that expensive, In in Tsarnaevs case I don't understand why it all the legal stuff would cost that much. Because come on, he is a terrorist.

As an American citizen, Tsarnaev is due his rights no matter if he is guilty or innocent. That is the way the American system of law works. Even those guilty of mass murder are afforded rights as citizens. End of story.

[Lol Democracy]

In my opinion he has wasted all his right to any rights. He killed over 200 people.

Divide that number by 50.

And take away 25%

[Dooom35796821595]

I have a problem with the fact that they're charging him with the use of a WMD, as in that senario you would need to charge a lot of politicians, federal agents and soldiers with the same charge.

A WMD is nuclear (not radiological) chemical or biological.

[The Black Forrest]

In my opinion he has wasted all his right to any rights. He killed over 200 people. He took away all their rights. And allowing him to keep his rights are disgusting.

The question of efficiency and cost has come up several time. Now, I am not an American, but I fail to see why its impossible to adjust the system to be more efficient. A bullet in the head is not that expensive, In in Tsarnaevs case I don't understand why it all the legal stuff would cost that much. Because come on, he is a terrorist.

3 people. He killed 3 people. And he injured 200 people.

You forgot the policeman they killed. 280 were injured. Just a nitpick.....

[Lol Democracy]

I have a problem with the fact that they're charging him with the use of a WMD, as in that senario you would need to charge a lot of politicians, federal agents and soldiers with the same charge.

A WMD is nuclear (not radiological) chemical or biological.

We could strap him to a real WMD in Best Koreas next nuclear test.

[Nazi Flower Power]

So how exactly is a pressure cooker bomb that killed three people classified as a WMD?
And by that definition what doesn't count as a WMD?

Because the federal government can't trust the states to punish their own criminals. What if someone set off a bomb in one of those liberal states like Massachusetts or somewhere? You know how soft on crime those Yankee liberals are!

That said, the bombs injured hundreds of people and a lot of them were serious injuries. When they say 200-however many injured, those aren't just people that had some bumps and bruises. A lot of those people had limbs blown off, and they're going to be fucked up for the rest of their lives. Then there are all the people for whom it was a traumatic experience even if they weren't physically injured. I was in Boston when this happened, and everywhere you went it was just chaos. It really is more serious than just killing 3 people by shooting them or whatever.

[The Black Forrest]

I have a problem with the fact that they're charging him with the use of a WMD, as in that senario you would need to charge a lot of politicians, federal agents and soldiers with the same charge.

A WMD is nuclear (not radiological) chemical or biological.

They didn't cause mass casualties?

[Meryuma]

Kill it.

To be honest, i wished torture was legal for this kind of cases.
Like, hardcore torture. Forever.

Given that he's likely a terrorist with a desire for martyrdom, and scrawny enough to probably make some cell mate very happy.

Wow, nice to see how enlightened and in favor of human rights we are in the US.

[Ifreann]

It's amusing watching all of the Europeans cry about the United State's two possible choices on this guy...

As opposed to the Americans advocating for unconstitutionally torturing him to death?

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Whatever you said

In my opinion he has wasted all his right to any rights. He killed over 200 people.

No, he didn't, as has been pointed out.

He took away all their rights. And allowing him to keep his rights are disgusting.

Maybe it upsets you, but denying rights to people based on your or anyone else's hurt feelings isn't really going to work as a means of running a society.

The question of efficiency and cost has come up several time. Now, I am not an American, but I fail to see why its impossible to adjust the system to be more efficient. A bullet in the head is not that expensive, In in Tsarnaevs case I don't understand why it all the legal stuff would cost that much. Because come on, he is a terrorist.

The actual making people die part of executions isn't that expensive, but there is a requirement that they be given several appeals first, in the hopes of not accidentally executing an innocent person. You can't really make that any cheaper. Lawyers are expensive. Judges are expensive. And if you're not going to have those appeals then you'll end up executing more innocent people, and most would agree that that's bad.

[Imperial City-States]

It's amusing watching all of the Europeans cry about the United State's two possible choices on this guy...

As opposed to the Americans advocating for unconstitutionally torturing him to death?

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Sticking him in Prison is not torture. Well, for him it would be but that's a different story. From what i've seen there are only two people who are advocating out of the box things.

[Dooom35796821595]

So how exactly is a pressure cooker bomb that killed three people classified as a WMD?
And by that definition what doesn't count as a WMD?

Because the federal government can't trust the states to punish their own criminals. What if someone set off a bomb in one of those liberal states like Massachusetts or somewhere? You know how soft on crime those Yankee liberals are!

That said, the bombs injured hundreds of people and a lot of them were serious injuries. When they say 200-however many injured, those aren't just people that had some bumps and bruises. A lot of those people had limbs blown off, and they're going to be fucked up for the rest of their lives. Then there are all the people for whom it was a traumatic experience even if they weren't physically injured. I was in Boston when this happened, and everywhere you went it was just chaos. It really is more serious than just killing 3 people by shooting them or whatever.

Isn't it a federal offense to detonate a bomb, or commit terrorisim anyway. So if a terrorist detonated a nuke in NYC would they be charged under the same law? It just seems like they are discounting how much worse a real WMD is.

[Busen]

It's amusing watching all of the Europeans cry about the United State's two possible choices on this guy...

Well this only shows why Europe is destroyed while the US not. That is why Americans should learn from the example of Europeans (especially the Swedes) to not let the extreme left to run your country.

[Lol Democracy]

It's amusing watching all of the Europeans cry about the United State's two possible choices on this guy...

Well this only shows why Europe is destroyed while the US not. That is why Americans should learn from the example of Europeans (especially the Swedes) to not let the extreme left to run your country.

+1

[The Black Forrest]

It's amusing watching all of the Europeans cry about the United State's two possible choices on this guy...

Well this only shows why Europe is destroyed while the US not. That is why Americans should learn from the example of Europeans (especially the Swedes) to not let the extreme left to run your country.

What are you talking about now?

[Nazi Flower Power]

Tsarnaev should be paraded through Boston while people throw fruit covered with bacon grease at him. Then taken to Fenway Park to be hung with his mouth full of bacon and a picture of mohammed nailed to his ass while "In America" by Charlie Daniels is playing. And his body should be dumped 25 hours after his death in a shallow stream with a public outhouse built over it.

You do know it's not the 17th century, yeah? Yes, Massachusetts is quaint and historic, but it's not THAT quaint.

[Saint Kitten]

He's probably going to get the death penalty but I'd rather see him rot with life without parole. Killing him is not only going to give him exactly what he wants, but it's also going to just inspire other terrorists and undoubtedly pop-up in some propaganda from Isis, not to mention that the death penalty is unethical anyways.

[Busen]

Well this only shows why Europe is destroyed while the US not. That is why Americans should learn from the example of Europeans (especially the Swedes) to not let the extreme left to run your country.

What are you talking about now?

Some people here seem to want to "rehabilitate" Tsarnaev in the same manner as the Danish government rehabilitate this ISIS fighter by first sending him to a psychiatrist than paying him college. Such ways of being soft to murderous is not a moral option.