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What should be Humanity's focus, as a species?

Advancement in space travel/reaching Mars/travelling in mad-made spacecrafts outside of our solar system
102
31%
Advances in medical science (biological immortality, finding the cure for cancer, etc.)
37
11%
Solving global warming (eliminating usage of fossil fuels, switching to renewable energy, etc.)
65
20%
Ending world hunger
9
3%
Eliminating poverty (not necessarily the same thing as ending world hunger)
18
6%
Uniting the world (one-world government, global political unity, etc.)
36
11%
World peace/demilitarizing the world (again, not necessarily the same thing as the option above)
14
4%
Universal free education (post-secondary education available to everyone, at no cost)
7
2%
Developing a sentient AI (preferably the peaceful kind, that doesn't steal our nuclear launch codes and enslaves humanity)
5
2%
Other (please specify in a post)
32
10%
 
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Postby Liberty and Linguistics » Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:55 pm

The 502nd SS wrote:Killing ourselves is one of the best ways to advance technology. Thats how we got the jet and nuclear energy. So onward to another massive European war!


I'll call Merkel, tell her what needs to be done.
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Postby The 502nd SS » Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:56 pm

Liberty and Linguistics wrote:
The 502nd SS wrote:Killing ourselves is one of the best ways to advance technology. Thats how we got the jet and nuclear energy. So onward to another massive European war!


I'll call Merkel, tell her what needs to be done.

I'll call Putin
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Postby Luziyca » Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:03 pm

Probably focus on ensuring social welfare, high standard of living, and making things sustainable.
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Postby Scomagia » Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:07 pm

The 502nd SS wrote:
Liberty and Linguistics wrote:
I'll call Merkel, tell her what needs to be done.

I'll call Putin

I'll talk to Obama. America always gets involved in these things, eventually.
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:10 pm

Humanity doesn't have a singular objective, objectives vary from individual. The only possible objective humanity probably has is to reproduce and pass our genes. (and even that is contentious)
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Postby United Russian Soviet States » Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:29 pm

Humanity's main objective should be to serve God.
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Postby Scomagia » Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:32 pm

United Russian Soviet States wrote:Humanity's main objective should be to serve God.

No thanks. God can get off his ass and serve himself.
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Postby Pope Joan » Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:32 pm

Let's make a shift away from idolizing science, and spend some energy on self-knowledge. Philosophy. Meditating on the true and the beautiful.
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Postby Sanctissima » Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:32 pm

United Russian Soviet States wrote:Humanity's main objective should be to serve God.


People have tried that before.

It's rarely worked well.

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Postby Slavaboostan » Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:33 pm

Not making false promises for a change.
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Postby Tamoi » Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:34 pm

See signature.

In terms of specific goals however, the primary goal of all of humanity at this time should be to reduce the population.

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Postby Caribica » Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:35 pm

Ha, I'm the only one who said ending world hunger.

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Postby Salus Maior » Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:35 pm

Tamoi wrote:See signature.

In terms of specific goals however, the primary goal of all of humanity at this time should be to reduce the population.


No way to do that ethically. Better to ship them off to Mars :P
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Postby Meridiani Planum » Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:35 pm

Sanctissima wrote:Pretty much every organised State that's existed in the course of human history.

If you consider those to be nothing more than groups of individuals with similar objectives, then those are some pretty big groups.


Yes, those are big groups. I think that you will find that States aren't made up of people who all share the same objective or set of objectives. It's far more messy than that. And it would be far more messy for all of humanity.
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Postby United Russian Soviet States » Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:36 pm

Sanctissima wrote:
United Russian Soviet States wrote:Humanity's main objective should be to serve God.


People have tried that before.

It's rarely worked well.

It can work well if people do it right.
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Postby Alvisiror » Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:37 pm

I chose world peace but at the same time we need to unite the world since we will be able to accomplish so much more as one entity rather than a bunch of bickering factions.
Exploring space is great I'm all for it but with too many issues happening on Earth it would seem more like an escape.
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Postby Salus Maior » Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:38 pm

Space exploration should be our main priority (and getting renewable energy to ensure our intergalactic claims aren't trashed :P ). Demilitarizing and Sentient AI both sound like bad ideas.
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Postby Napkiraly » Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:38 pm

A lot of these things are rather interconnected so overall one could say advancing our technological level and scientific knowledge. With that, it'll disseminate throughout the world (of course to varying levels, some places will gain certain things much faster and still be ahead but c'est la vie). Overall it'd be a boon to the planet, ensure well being, better quality of life, better economic prospects etc.

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Postby Caribica » Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:38 pm

United Russian Soviet States wrote:
Sanctissima wrote:
People have tried that before.

It's rarely worked well.

It can work well if people do it right.

No, it can't, you cannot force people to believe Christianity, that would not be advancing us to a greater era but just set society back 1000 years.

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Postby Sanctissima » Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:39 pm

United Russian Soviet States wrote:
Sanctissima wrote:
People have tried that before.

It's rarely worked well.

It can work well if people do it right.


Depends one one's definition of the word "right".

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Postby Slavaboostan » Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:40 pm

Caribica wrote:
United Russian Soviet States wrote:It can work well if people do it right.

No, it can't, you cannot force people to believe Christianity, that would not be advancing us to a greater era but just set society back 1000 years.

You can't force people to accept gay marriage,

It's the same side of the coin.

You can't force people any believe by that matter.
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Postby Diopolis » Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:41 pm

We need to get off this rock.
Climate change is happening, and there's not really any way to stop it that could actually happen. And it's going to be bad. Really bad. We humans are the stewards of creation- our job is to protect it. And earth is one of the most important parts of that creation, the crown jewel if you will. We can still save earth's biodiversity, by moving species off earth into O'neill cylinders calibrated to observe different ecosystems- we can have another bunch for the bulk of us to live in, but we also have a responsibility to save the jewel of God's creation, earthborn life. Besides, the whole of his creation is ours, and it is our destiny to take it.

Climate change- the only ways to really stop it at this point are utopian, ridiculous, and often unworkable. But, there is an ethical imperative to save the human species, but more than that, to try to preserve the human species' low overall mortality rates. That requires us to get out while the going's good, which requires us to make space colonization a priority. I don't mean some doomed colony on mars- it'll probably be some damn fool colony that'll die out from a low fertility rate if it doesn't die out from more obvious failures. I mean a serious presence in space that can sustain itself without ever setting foot on a planet, ever again, because let's face it, we humans tend to wreck them. That means space habitats, in massive numbers.
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Postby United Russian Soviet States » Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:42 pm

Caribica wrote:
United Russian Soviet States wrote:It can work well if people do it right.

No, it can't, you cannot force people to believe Christianity, that would not be advancing us to a greater era but just set society back 1000 years.

It would be nice if everyone was voluntarily a Christian.
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Postby Caribica » Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:43 pm

Slavaboostan wrote:
Caribica wrote:No, it can't, you cannot force people to believe Christianity, that would not be advancing us to a greater era but just set society back 1000 years.

You can't force people to accept gay marriage,

It's the same side of the coin.

You can't force people any believe by that matter.

It's not forcing them to accept gay marriage, they can choose to ignore it. We cannot choose to ignore being stoned because we do not believe in a certain deity.

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Postby Salus Maior » Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:43 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Climate change- the only ways to really stop it at this point are utopian, ridiculous, and often unworkable. But, there is an ethical imperative to save the human species, but more than that, to try to preserve the human species' low overall mortality rates. That requires us to get out while the going's good, which requires us to make space colonization a priority. I don't mean some doomed colony on mars- it'll probably be some damn fool colony that'll die out from a low fertility rate if it doesn't die out from more obvious failures. I mean a serious presence in space that can sustain itself without ever setting foot on a planet, ever again, because let's face it, we humans tend to wreck them. That means space habitats, in massive numbers.


Not if we find better ways of generating energy. And besides, what's there really to ruin on Mars? We make it a bit off color?
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