by Sanctissima » Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:53 am
by Meryuma » Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:58 am
Niur wrote: my soul has no soul.
Saint Clair Island wrote:The English language sucks. From now on, I will refer to the second definition of sexual as "fucktacular."
Trotskylvania wrote:Alternatively, we could go on an epic quest to Plato's Cave to find the legendary artifact, Ockham's Razor.
Norstal wrote:Gunpowder Plot: America.
Meryuma: "Well, I just hope these hyperboles don't...
*puts on sunglasses*
blow out of proportions."
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
by Second Blazing » Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:03 pm
by Romalae » Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:08 pm
by Sanctissima » Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:11 pm
Romalae wrote:I don't understand why it has to be a single main objective. Some of these options are interconnected, some will have short time frames while others will have longer ones, and I don't think any have to be mutually exclusive. It's possible for humanity to focus on multiple goals at once.
by Meridiani Planum » Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:16 pm
by Sanctissima » Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:17 pm
Meridiani Planum wrote:I don't think that "humanity" should have an objective. Individuals should have objectives. Some of those will match, and so groups of individuals may find themselves with similar objectives, but there may be a variety of them.
There can be no "main" objective for humanity. It is for individuals to prioritize their personal objectives.
by Romalae » Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:18 pm
Sanctissima wrote:Romalae wrote:I don't understand why it has to be a single main objective. Some of these options are interconnected, some will have short time frames while others will have longer ones, and I don't think any have to be mutually exclusive. It's possible for humanity to focus on multiple goals at once.
As I said, this poll is just for which development you think is the most important one.
by Sanctissima » Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:20 pm
by The Sotoan Union » Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:21 pm
by Sanctissima » Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:25 pm
The Sotoan Union wrote:Solving problems on Earth like poverty. I think some people have a weird obsession with technology as if just having more advanced technology makes us a better species, but not if it doesn't have any practical purposes. Ohh a bunch of old people landed on Mars. Doesn't do a lot of good when people who have a hard time putting food on the table vote for the party that promises to cut the space program's funding.
by Scomagia » Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:29 pm
The Sotoan Union wrote:Solving problems on Earth like poverty. I think some people have a weird obsession with technology as if just having more advanced technology makes us a better species, but not if it doesn't have any practical purposes. Ohh a bunch of old people landed on Mars. Doesn't do a lot of good when people who have a hard time putting food on the table vote for the party that promises to cut the space program's funding.
by The Sotoan Union » Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:30 pm
Sanctissima wrote:The Sotoan Union wrote:Solving problems on Earth like poverty. I think some people have a weird obsession with technology as if just having more advanced technology makes us a better species, but not if it doesn't have any practical purposes. Ohh a bunch of old people landed on Mars. Doesn't do a lot of good when people who have a hard time putting food on the table vote for the party that promises to cut the space program's funding.
Probably has to do with ensuring humanity's survival.
I mean, sure, we could cut funding to our space programs and concentrate on more imminent problems. But let's say we do that, and solve poverty.
Then a giant asteroid comes out of nowhere, wipes out humanity and boom, all for naught.
by British Home Counties » Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:32 pm
by The Sotoan Union » Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:33 pm
Scomagia wrote:The Sotoan Union wrote:Solving problems on Earth like poverty. I think some people have a weird obsession with technology as if just having more advanced technology makes us a better species, but not if it doesn't have any practical purposes. Ohh a bunch of old people landed on Mars. Doesn't do a lot of good when people who have a hard time putting food on the table vote for the party that promises to cut the space program's funding.
Yeah, the Apollo program totally didn't cause massive boosts in various technological fields, which later became available to the public and made life easier.
by Sanctissima » Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:35 pm
The Sotoan Union wrote:Sanctissima wrote:
Probably has to do with ensuring humanity's survival.
I mean, sure, we could cut funding to our space programs and concentrate on more imminent problems. But let's say we do that, and solve poverty.
Then a giant asteroid comes out of nowhere, wipes out humanity and boom, all for naught.
And what the couple hundred people on Mars are going to continue humanity all by themselves? I hear this argument a lot but it really doesn't apply until we get much more advanced technology. Long after the 21st century. Until then humanity is very much doomed if Earth is wiped out. We can try to redirect the asteroid but even that might not work, so it's not like any reasonable technology we could have in the 21st century could save us if Earth was wiped out.
A more probable scenario for Earth being uninhabitable is something we do to it. So wouldn't it be better to try to deal with those problems? Even then should people continue to suffer in poverty because the resources might be needed for some theoretical struggle? Some what if is more important than the problems staring us in the face right now?
by Senkaku » Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:36 pm
by The 502nd SS » Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:39 pm
by Ragnarum » Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:42 pm
by Kaboomlandia » Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:42 pm
by Meridiani Planum » Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:44 pm
Sanctissima wrote:Meridiani Planum wrote:I don't think that "humanity" should have an objective. Individuals should have objectives. Some of those will match, and so groups of individuals may find themselves with similar objectives, but there may be a variety of them.
There can be no "main" objective for humanity. It is for individuals to prioritize their personal objectives.
History contradicts you.
by Sanctissima » Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:51 pm
by Scomagia » Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:52 pm
The Sotoan Union wrote:Scomagia wrote:Yeah, the Apollo program totally didn't cause massive boosts in various technological fields, which later became available to the public and made life easier.
And that's great.
My problem is with people who want more technology solely for the purpose of having more technology. Not for a practical application. It's one thing to look at technology as a solution to a current problem, but it's another thing to look at it as a stepping stone for more technology. Because at what point does this technology benefit us. Some people think life is some weird game of civilization and if we climb the tech tree we win. They forget that those techs are supposed to help us now, and also think that everything that doesn't lead to more "science" is pointless.
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