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Postby Quintium » Mon Mar 30, 2015 6:02 am

New Stephania wrote:I don't think we should be playing totting-up games, trying to decide which group of people is worse than another.


Why not? It's extremely relevant for the safety of any society that we know who's killing who and, therefore, who we should focus our efforts on to prevent further killings. Here's an interesting analogy. It's not about Islam, but it's about a similar issue where one minority demographic is responsible for an extreme amount of violence and yet the people against whom the violence is being committed refuse to make the distinction. Make 'country X' the world, 'class A' the Muslims and 'class B' the non-Muslims and you'll find that it works.

Suppose you are an alien and you are observing a country X which contains two classes of people, which we’ll call A and B. You observe the following:

Every year, thousands of people of class B are attacked, raped and killed by people of class A. The converse is extremely rare – at least, rare enough to be a cause celebre [this thread].

Large areas of X, including entire major cities [for my own analogy: countries], have been ethnically cleansed by the departure of class-B people fleeing class-A violence.

Versus class-As, class-Bs are systematically disfavored in competition for educational and professional positions.

Many, even most, people of class A accept a canonical ideology which justifies this situation as a moral response to unidentifiable, irreparable, and ancient wrongs [kufr], and appears to motivate ongoing attacks, which are often defended by responsible authorities [we don't support this attack, but they shouldn't have offended a man who is holy to so many people]. In fact, the belief that it is actually the class-Bs who are oppressing the class-As is widespread [this whole islamophobia nonsense].

While class-Bs are a numerical majority in some regions, they are a substantial minority on the entire planet. [this is the one difference; Muslims are a minority in the world, but then people of every faith are a minority in the world] Many respectable and influential people advocate the abolition of all migration controls worldwide, leaving the class-As in a perfect position to extend their theory of violence to a policy of global conquest and destruction. While this is not about to happen tomorrow, over the next century it is quite plausible.
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Postby New Stephania » Mon Mar 30, 2015 6:48 am

Quintium wrote:
New Stephania wrote:I don't think we should be playing totting-up games, trying to decide which group of people is worse than another.

Why not? It's extremely relevant for the safety of any society that we know who's killing who and, therefore, who we should focus our efforts on to prevent further killings.

I'm not convinced either side is arguing these things out of the goodness of their hearts to serve the common good, they're just pushing a political agenda.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Mar 30, 2015 6:52 am

Vilatania wrote:Execute him.

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Postby Quintium » Mon Mar 30, 2015 8:20 am

New Stephania wrote:I'm not convinced either side is arguing these things out of the goodness of their hearts to serve the common good, they're just pushing a political agenda.


Welcome to the real world. Everyone has his own set of beliefs and interests. Everyone will act, when given the opportunity, based on his own set of beliefs and interests. It's just that within the western world, we have a lot of people who have put beliefs before interests and other people before themselves, and are therefore on the receiving end of a lot of nasty things, including England's good old mass rape scandals (but hey, one or two white politicians also raped children, so let's ignore literally thousands of cases for the sake of community relations).
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Postby New Stephania » Mon Mar 30, 2015 9:43 am

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New Stephania wrote:I'm not convinced either side is arguing these things out of the goodness of their hearts to serve the common good, they're just pushing a political agenda.

Welcome to the real world. Everyone has his own set of beliefs and interests. Everyone will act, when given the opportunity, based on his own set of beliefs and interests. It's just that within the western world, we have a lot of people who have put beliefs before interests and other people before themselves, and are therefore on the receiving end of a lot of nasty things, including England's good old mass rape scandals (but hey, one or two white politicians also raped children, so let's ignore literally thousands of cases for the sake of community relations).

Bringing up child molesters covering up other crimes to save their own hides really doesn't make me want to play one-up games any more than before.
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Postby Gauthier » Mon Mar 30, 2015 9:46 am

New Stephania wrote:
Quintium wrote:Welcome to the real world. Everyone has his own set of beliefs and interests. Everyone will act, when given the opportunity, based on his own set of beliefs and interests. It's just that within the western world, we have a lot of people who have put beliefs before interests and other people before themselves, and are therefore on the receiving end of a lot of nasty things, including England's good old mass rape scandals (but hey, one or two white politicians also raped children, so let's ignore literally thousands of cases for the sake of community relations).

Bringing up child molesters covering up other crimes to save their own hides really doesn't make me want to play one-up games any more than before.


He's just upset that this was a case of someone trying to frame Muslims for planting pipebombs rather than Muslims planting said bombs like he and many people hoped.
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Mon Mar 30, 2015 9:53 am

Sounds like he's a bit of a cunt.
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Postby MERIZoC » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:36 am

Let it never be said that American patriots aren't uncompromising in their ideals.

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Postby Genivaria » Mon Mar 30, 2015 2:23 pm

And here comes Quintium with his "All Muslims are bloodthirsty terrorists" routine.

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Postby Naushantiya » Mon Mar 30, 2015 2:25 pm

Gauthier wrote:Georgia ‘patriot’ reportedly planted pipe bombs in park to sow fear of Muslims

A 67-year-old Marietta, Georgia man is accused of planting a backpack containing two pipe bombs in an Atlanta-area public park in order to frighten the public and sow fear of Islamic terrorism.

According to Atlanta’s Channel 2 News, conservative “patriot” Michael Sibley confessed to police that he was trying to educate people that terror strikes can happen anywhere and without warning when he planted the bombs last November.

The backpack contained two partially-constructed pipe bombs, a Koran and a list of “soft targets” for terrorist attacks — i.e., non-military, unguarded structures like hospitals and schools. Among the list of potential targets was an Atlanta Jewish center.

Channel 2 quoted Sibley’s arrest report, which reported that he “(s)tated that he is a ‘patriot’ and he felt no one was paying attention to what was going on the world. Sibley felt if he placed the package in a Roswell park then people would finally get that this type of activity could happen anywhere.”


So some old guy plants two pipe bombs and a bunch of false flag material to try and rile up Islamaphobia in the Georgia public as a "warning" against the Islamic Menace. Fortunately he was stopped before the bombs actually went off and injured or killed people.

Does anyone remember the last time some right-wing nut "tried" to warn the public about the Islamic Menace?

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Islamic Terrorism is a reality, but it takes an especially soulless bigot to be willing to kill innocent people just to have another group of innocent people subject to state-sanctioned harassment on top of individual pogroms. And God knows we need more Indians murdered by morons who think their brown skin means they're Muslim. :roll:

Yes, there are Islamist terror groups out there, but if you're so scared of them you're associating all Muslims with them you have serious issues.

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Postby The Rich Port » Mon Mar 30, 2015 2:27 pm

What a hero. [/FUCKING SARCASM FUCK HOLY SHIT FUCK]
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Postby Utceforp » Mon Mar 30, 2015 2:28 pm

Genivaria wrote:And here comes Quintium with his "All Muslims are bloodthirsty terrorists" routine.

Honestly, it's getting old.
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Postby The Rich Port » Mon Mar 30, 2015 2:29 pm

Utceforp wrote:
Genivaria wrote:And here comes Quintium with his "All Muslims are bloodthirsty terrorists" routine.

Honestly, it's getting old.


It was always old, for crissakes. :lol:
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Postby Naushantiya » Mon Mar 30, 2015 2:29 pm

Dragonir wrote:Pretty funny but you anf the liberal media are just trying to make real Americans look bad

Well if your statement has any truth in it and I am not sure it does not than real americans are bad

Why would you blow something up to avoid blowing something up ?
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Postby Page » Mon Mar 30, 2015 2:31 pm

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Vilatania wrote:Execute him.

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Had you said, "He should receive the death penalty after his trial," I'd have let it go.


That is so ridiculous.
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Postby British Home Counties » Mon Mar 30, 2015 2:32 pm

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Farnhamia wrote:*** Warned for trolling by wishing death on a person. ***

Had you said, "He should receive the death penalty after his trial," I'd have let it go.


That is so ridiculous.


Indeed. What the hell.
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Postby Page » Mon Mar 30, 2015 2:34 pm

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That is so ridiculous.


Indeed. What the hell.


I guarantee you too this was said about the Boston Bomber and no one said a word.
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Postby Bjorden » Mon Mar 30, 2015 2:46 pm

This thing is so idiot that I dont belive it actualy happened

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As US law permits the execution of people convicted of terrorism, it is my opinion that this man is a terrorist and therefore if he is convicted he should be executed. This post has been carefully crafted in order to abide by site rules as advocating and celebrating death is forbidden except for all the random and arbitrary times it's totally okay.
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Postby Tekania » Mon Mar 30, 2015 2:53 pm

Islamic terrorist don't have a good work ethic.... I mean look here.... poor right wing extremists are having to plan their own Islamic terrorist attacks just to incite the masses due to the poor work ethic of Muslim extremists in the US of recent.
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Tekania wrote:Islamic terrorist don't have a good work ethic.... I mean look here.... poor right wing extremists are having to plan their own Islamic terrorist attacks just to incite the masses due to the poor work ethic of Muslim extremists in the US of recent.

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I guarantee you no one in the news calls him a terrorist. GUARANTEE. Just like how the media complains Obama doesn't say the word Islamic. But white-wing terrorists don't count.
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Page wrote:I guarantee you no one in the news calls him a terrorist. GUARANTEE. Just like how the media complains Obama doesn't say the word Islamic. But white-wing terrorists don't count.


Which wing is the white one? :p
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Postby AiliailiA » Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:07 pm

Page wrote:As US law permits the execution of people convicted of terrorism,


I don't think it does. States can only execute for murder (including felony murder, ie someone died not by murder, but during the commission of a felony).

Feds can execute for treason, espionage, murder and ... drug trafficking!? OK that last one is crazy.

The law quoted before lays out penalties. The death penalty is included ONLY for murder. Source.

it is my opinion that this man is a terrorist and therefore if he is convicted he should be executed. This post has been carefully crafted in order to abide by site rules as advocating and celebrating death is forbidden except for all the random and arbitrary times it's totally okay.


Carefully crafted perhaps. But wrong.
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