"Patriot" Tried Sowing Fear of Muslims With Pipe Bombs

[Thermodolia]

This guy keeps calling himself a patriot? To quote a very awesome movie, "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

[Norstal]

Woah woah woah. A man nearly killed civilians on his own volition, and you don't want him imprisoned? You have some explaining to do.

Unless I'm mistaken, those pipe bombs weren't armed, and he went out of his way to make sure they weren't armed.

That means he had no intention of killing or harming anyone. He just wanted to make a point. A stupid, religiously intolerant point. But still, just a point.

If someone finished it or set it out somehow, would he still be responsible?

If yes then he committed terrorism.

[Thermodolia]

Unless I'm mistaken, those pipe bombs weren't armed, and he went out of his way to make sure they weren't armed.

That means he had no intention of killing or harming anyone. He just wanted to make a point. A stupid, religiously intolerant point. But still, just a point.

If someone finished it or set it out somehow, would he still be responsible?

If yes then he committed terrorism.

Yes even though the bombs did not go off he can still be charged with intent to commit terrorism and terrorism itself.

[Kelinfort]

Crazy ideologue does something stupid, news at 11.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Fricking wackjob.

Thankfully no one was hurt from those bombs.

[Vilatania]

Execute him.

[Jumalariik]

This is not makin sense to me, maybe because I didn't get enough sleep: if he did not fully construct the pipe bombs and intended on them being found without blowing up, how can you people say that he was trying to blow people up? Maybe I missed something.

[Fartsniffage]

Crazy ideologue does something stupid, news at 11.

Well, yes. Something newsworthy happened so it probably will be on the news at 11.

[Scomagia]

Crazy ideologue does something stupid, news at 11.

Well, yes. Something newsworthy happened so it probably will be on the news at 11.

It's barely newsworthy.

[Gauthier]

Well, yes. Something newsworthy happened so it probably will be on the news at 11.

It's barely newsworthy.

Nutjob trying to make Muslims even more of pariahs than they already are now isn't newsworthy?

[Scomagia]

It's barely newsworthy.

Nutjob trying to make Muslims even more of pariahs than they already are now isn't newsworthy?

It is, though only just. His reasoning is what makes it newsworthy.

[Gauthier]

It does seem we are more eager to make excuses for guys like this than for foreign-born terrorists.

And those same people would be screaming for his ass to be shipped off to Gitmo if he had been brown.

[Dominated Earth]

From the looks of it, he wasn't trying to kill anybody but scare them. There's a few things you could charge him for like disturbing the peace, wasting police time etc. Though I'm pretty sure this falls under Terrorism still.

[Liriena]

So, you are telling me that a conservative "patriot" attempted to carry out a false flag operation, rather than Obama and his NWO Secular Muslim Jewlluminazis?

Wow. Just wow.

I do hope he'll be treated by the judiciary as the terrorist he is.

[Benuty]

So, you are telling me that a conservative "patriot" attempted to carry out a false flag operation, rather than Obama and his NWO Secular Muslim Jewlluminazis?

Wow. Just wow.

I do hope he'll be treated by the judiciary as the terrorist he is.

Well given most U.S states have the "hand of God's wrath" approach they most certainly will. When they get out of prison (if they ever do) they will still be as neurologically damaged as they were before they entered the system. With the added bonus of suffering from the lack of importance they had while in prison due to the lack of rehabilitation services (or truly committed services on the outside) will ensure there return to prison within a set period of time. That is unless they are one of the lucky ones who escapes the recidivism rate.

[Liriena]

So, you are telling me that a conservative "patriot" attempted to carry out a false flag operation, rather than Obama and his NWO Secular Muslim Jewlluminazis?

Wow. Just wow.

I do hope he'll be treated by the judiciary as the terrorist he is.

Well given most U.S states have the "hand of God's wrath" approach they most certainly will. When they get out of prison (if they ever do) they will still be as neurologically damaged as they were before they entered the system. With the added bonus of suffering from the lack of importance they had while in prison due to the lack of rehabilitation services (or truly committed services on the outside) will ensure there return to prison within a set period of time. That is unless they are one of the lucky ones who escapes the recidivism rate.

A very distressing reality.

[Diopolis]

I understand that his two pipe-bombs weren't even designed to explode, nor was his purpose to actually kill someone, so I think that disqualifies this man from terrorism charges. He can still be charged with a variety of different offenses though.

Still, I think he deserves prison time for being an idiot. The least he could have done is plant false evidence that actually looked plausible.

Eh, I don't know if I'd go as far as prison time.

I mean, at the end of the day, he was just trying to make a point. A stupid point, but nonetheless, a point.

To be honest, I wish we still used stocks. Put him in one outside of the town hall for a day and sell rotten tomatoes to passersby. It'd be a great fundraiser.

And there would be a corrupt deal with buying the rights to sell tomatoes in the area....

[Genivaria]

Well given most U.S states have the "hand of God's wrath" approach they most certainly will. When they get out of prison (if they ever do) they will still be as neurologically damaged as they were before they entered the system. With the added bonus of suffering from the lack of importance they had while in prison due to the lack of rehabilitation services (or truly committed services on the outside) will ensure there return to prison within a set period of time. That is unless they are one of the lucky ones who escapes the recidivism rate.

A very distressing reality.

And it's a reality that will continue as long as Americans believe the myth that rehabilitation doesn't work.

[Nazi Flower Power]

Georgia ‘patriot’ reportedly planted pipe bombs in park to sow fear of Muslims

A 67-year-old Marietta, Georgia man is accused of planting a backpack containing two pipe bombs in an Atlanta-area public park in order to frighten the public and sow fear of Islamic terrorism.

According to Atlanta’s Channel 2 News, conservative “patriot” Michael Sibley confessed to police that he was trying to educate people that terror strikes can happen anywhere and without warning when he planted the bombs last November.

The backpack contained two partially-constructed pipe bombs, a Koran and a list of “soft targets” for terrorist attacks — i.e., non-military, unguarded structures like hospitals and schools. Among the list of potential targets was an Atlanta Jewish center.

Channel 2 quoted Sibley’s arrest report, which reported that he “(s)tated that he is a ‘patriot’ and he felt no one was paying attention to what was going on the world. Sibley felt if he placed the package in a Roswell park then people would finally get that this type of activity could happen anywhere.”

So some old guy plants two pipe bombs and a bunch of false flag material to try and rile up Islamaphobia in the Georgia public as a "warning" against the Islamic Menace. Fortunately he was stopped before the bombs actually went off and injured or killed people.

Does anyone remember the last time some right-wing nut "tried" to warn the public about the Islamic Menace?

Islamic Terrorism is a reality, but it takes an especially soulless bigot to be willing to kill innocent people just to have another group of innocent people subject to state-sanctioned harassment on top of individual pogroms. And God knows we need more Indians murdered by morons who think their brown skin means they're Muslim.

Yes, there are Islamist terror groups out there, but if you're so scared of them you're associating all Muslims with them you have serious issues.

It says "partially-constructed" pipe bombs. The guy is an asshole and an idiot for trying to scare people like this, but that sounds like the bombs were never meant to go off.

[Gauthier]

From the looks of it, he wasn't trying to kill anybody but scare them. There's a few things you could charge him for like disturbing the peace, wasting police time etc. Though I'm pretty sure this falls under Terrorism still.

Yes, because the exact same consideration and sympathy would be given to a Middle Eastern man in the exact same situation.

[Scomagia]

Georgia ‘patriot’ reportedly planted pipe bombs in park to sow fear of Muslims



So some old guy plants two pipe bombs and a bunch of false flag material to try and rile up Islamaphobia in the Georgia public as a "warning" against the Islamic Menace. Fortunately he was stopped before the bombs actually went off and injured or killed people.

Does anyone remember the last time some right-wing nut "tried" to warn the public about the Islamic Menace?

Islamic Terrorism is a reality, but it takes an especially soulless bigot to be willing to kill innocent people just to have another group of innocent people subject to state-sanctioned harassment on top of individual pogroms. And God knows we need more Indians murdered by morons who think their brown skin means they're Muslim.

Yes, there are Islamist terror groups out there, but if you're so scared of them you're associating all Muslims with them you have serious issues.

It says "partially-constructed" pipe bombs. The guy is an asshole and an idiot for trying to scare people like this, but that sounds like the bombs were never meant to go off.

Which is irrelevant as far as the law goes.

[Dominated Earth]

From the looks of it, he wasn't trying to kill anybody but scare them. There's a few things you could charge him for like disturbing the peace, wasting police time etc. Though I'm pretty sure this falls under Terrorism still.

Yes, because the exact same consideration and sympathy would be given to a Middle Eastern man in the exact same situation.

I'm not saying it would. Personally I'd charge him with Terrorism. But it's up to the law to decide what happens to this nutter.

[Benuty]

A very distressing reality.

And it's a reality that will continue as long as Americans believe the myth that rehabilitation doesn't work.

The cruel irony of the 1990s, an era when crime went down, but media reports of it skewed it the point of it being likened to an epidemic. In turn people went to the ones they believed could do something about it, and have been hooked to the "get tough" approach ever since.

[Nazi Flower Power]

It says "partially-constructed" pipe bombs. The guy is an asshole and an idiot for trying to scare people like this, but that sounds like the bombs were never meant to go off.

Which is irrelevant as far as the law goes.

It could, and probably should, affect the severity of his sentence. He broke the law either way, but it's still worth noting the difference between actually trying to kill people and just trying to scare people.

[Norstal]

It says "partially-constructed" pipe bombs. The guy is an asshole and an idiot for trying to scare people like this, but that sounds like the bombs were never meant to go off.

Bombs don't care if it's not meant to blow off or not.