ISIL Destroying Islamic Sites

[Edgy Opinions]

Absolutely awful. And though it's completely in line with the Wahhabi/Salafi idea of destroying 'idolatrous' historic sites, I've no doubt this latest spate of destruction is a specific assault on the Assyrians and their history.

Hate really knows no boundaries, specially one that is fueled by envy.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Even more reason to hate them, I really hate to see history just being destroyed by some batshit crazy morons.

[Victoriala]

Absolutely awful. And though it's completely in line with the Wahhabi/Salafi idea of destroying 'idolatrous' historic sites, I've no doubt this latest spate of destruction is a specific assault on the Assyrians and their history.

Hate really knows no boundaries, specially one that is fueled by envy.

Its either they're too fanatic, too scared at Baghdadi, or really just hates Assyrian stuff.

Envy in what terms? Muslims had their fair share of civilized contributions to the world.

[Edgy Opinions]

Hate really knows no boundaries, specially one that is fueled by envy.

Its either they're too fanatic, too scared at Baghdadi, or really just hates Assyrian stuff.

Envy in what terms? Muslims had their fair share of civilized contributions to the world.

Nah, Christian Arabs and pre-Arab peoples are envied by many in the Levant. Really sure of that.

[The Archregimancy]

Destroy the past, and you control the future. The Soviets knew that when they tried to stamp out all aspects of Tsarist Russia (including religion), the Khmer Rouge as well, and now ISIS.

That's perhaps slightly misleading when it comes to the Khmer Rouge - they idolised Angkor Wat as a symbol of Khmer ethnic superiority to the extent of putting its silhouette right in the centre of the flag of Democratic Kampuchea. It was the recent past that the Khmer Rouge sought to obliterate; the classical past - especially the Khmer Empire of the 9th through 15th centuries - was something they preferred to appropriate rather than destroy.

[Liriena]

While I don't find this nearly as upsetting as the gross human rights violations Isis has committed... yes, it still ticks me off... a lot.

[Baltenstein]

Its either they're too fanatic, too scared at Baghdadi, or really just hates Assyrian stuff.

Envy in what terms? Muslims had their fair share of civilized contributions to the world.

Nah, Christian Arabs and pre-Arab peoples are envied by many in the Levant. Really sure of that.

Do Levantine Christians still identify ethnically with the Ancient Assyrians though (like how the Copts identify with the Ancient Egyptians), or is it more of a name legacy?

[Edgy Opinions]

Nah, Christian Arabs and pre-Arab peoples are envied by many in the Levant. Really sure of that.

Do Levantine Christians still identify ethnically with the Ancient Assyrians though (like how the Copts identify with the Ancient Egyptians), or is it more of a name legacy?

They speak freaking Aramaic.

[Devvo Mate]

Most of Jordan is fine; likewise the overwhelming majority of Turkey. I have friends with active and continuing research programmes in both countries, and would have no particular qualms about working in either if the opportunity presented itself.

I gather that, but we don't know what the situation will be like come July when everybody has to head off.

[Esternial]

I feel your pain, Archy.

[The Archregimancy]

Do Levantine Christians still identify ethnically with the Ancient Assyrians though (like how the Copts identify with the Ancient Egyptians), or is it more of a name legacy?

They speak freaking Aramaic.

There's some potential for confusion here.

The local remnant of the ancient Nestorian Church of the East (and related churches) often identify closely with historical Assyria.

Many of the latter do indeed speak a dialect of modern Aramaic.

However, many of the remaining modern Aramaic speakers in the region are members of the very different Syriac Orthodox Church, which is a branch of the Non-Chalcedonian Oriental Orthodox Church (in communion with the Armenians, Egyptian Copts, and Ethiopians, but not the Eastern Orthodox Church), and the latter do not identify with historical Assyria.

The Syriac Church is undoubtedly Levantine, but is not culturally Assyrian. The historic core of the Nestorian Church of the East, which does associate with Assyria to some degree, is in Iraq; but the latter is only sometimes considered Levantine.

[Aethrys]

Better acronym for these parasites would be TEH, for The Enemies of Humanity, as it does a much better job of describing what they are.

[Edgy Opinions]

There's some potential for confusion here.

The local remnant of the ancient Nestorian Church of the East (and related churches) often identify closely with historical Assyria.

Many of the latter do indeed speak a dialect of modern Aramaic.

However, many of the remaining modern Aramaic speakers in the region are members of the very different Syriac Orthodox Church, which is a branch of the Non-Chalcedonian Oriental Orthodox Church (in communion with the Armenians, Egyptian Copts, and Ethiopians, but not the Eastern Orthodox Church), and the latter do not identify with historical Assyria.

The Syriac Church is undoubtedly Levantine, but is not culturally Assyrian. The historic core of the Nestorian Church of the East, which does associate with Assyria to some degree, is in Iraq; but the latter is only sometimes considered Levantine.

Oh, I mean Levant as the area, not including the Arabian peninsula, where the sun rises in the "Arab world".

Near East + Mesopotamia.

[The Archregimancy]

Better acronym for these parasites would be TEH, for The Enemies of Humanity, as it does a much better job of describing what they are.

I've previously argued that we should consider them to be the Campaign for United Northern Territories of Syria.

You can work out the acronym for yourself.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Better acronym for these parasites would be TEH, for The Enemies of Humanity, as it does a much better job of describing what they are.

I've previously argued that we should consider them to be the Campaign for United Northern Territories of Syria.

You can work out the acronym for yourself.

Arch, I imagine the international archaeology community has brainstormed ways to protect these sites but that there's not much that you can, directly do, right? :/

[Perlaraja]

Better acronym for these parasites would be TEH, for The Enemies of Humanity, as it does a much better job of describing what they are.

I've previously argued that we should consider them to be the Campaign for United Northern Territories of Syria.

You can work out the acronym for yourself.

lol

In all seriousness, we should stamp these radical nobheads down fast. Who knows, ISIS is just going to persist because pf their dealings with underground shit until all that is left are what Baghdadi and his buddies allows.

[Sun Wukong]

Destroy the past, and you control the future. The Soviets knew that when they tried to stamp out all aspects of Tsarist Russia (including religion), the Khmer Rouge as well, and now ISIS.

That's perhaps slightly misleading when it comes to the Khmer Rouge - they idolised Angkor Wat as a symbol of Khmer ethnic superiority to the extent of putting its silhouette right in the centre of the flag of Democratic Kampuchea. It was the recent past that the Khmer Rouge sought to obliterate; the classical past - especially the Khmer Empire of the 9th through 15th centuries - was something they preferred to appropriate rather than destroy.

Kind of ironic really, given how thoroughly Indianized it was.

[Quintium]

If you know that what you want to say is objectionable and bannable, why insinuate it at all?

Because I can't be quiet about a thing like this.

[The Archregimancy]

I've previously argued that we should consider them to be the Campaign for United Northern Territories of Syria.

You can work out the acronym for yourself.

Arch, I imagine the international archaeology community has brainstormed ways to protect these sites but that there's not much that you can, directly do, right? :/

Archaeologists have no military capacity; there's nothing we can do.

If this were a 'normal' conflict, then some of protection would be offered by the 1954 Hague Convention; but it's not a normal conflict.

All ICAHM can ultimately do is declare its outrage.

[The Archregimancy]

That's perhaps slightly misleading when it comes to the Khmer Rouge - they idolised Angkor Wat as a symbol of Khmer ethnic superiority to the extent of putting its silhouette right in the centre of the flag of Democratic Kampuchea. It was the recent past that the Khmer Rouge sought to obliterate; the classical past - especially the Khmer Empire of the 9th through 15th centuries - was something they preferred to appropriate rather than destroy.

Kind of ironic really, given how thoroughly Indianized it was.

Sir, are you suggesting that Hinduism is in some way culturally Indian?

I'm shocked! Shocked, I say!

[Risottia]

I thought it was derived straight from the form of "archaeologist" used by British archaeologists. What would be the proper
spelling?

Ah, but you left out the second 'a'. Note the underlined below: ...

Oops. Thank you.

[Saiwania]

Overwhelming military force is necessary to protect archaeological sites, no major military powers are going to do so because the cost of a massive air and ground campaign is deemed to be more than the ancient artifacts are actually worth in monetary value. The stuff that can be moved can be loaded onto C-17s and flown away from the area of conflict if complete air superiority is maintained and enough ground is physically held to put enemy ground units out of range of threatening any air assets.

[Risottia]

Envy in what terms? Muslims had their fair share of civilized contributions to the world.

Yeah, but the Daesh belong to that bit of humanity who would be more proud of raping and killing other people rather of having written, let's say, the Compendious on Calculation by Balancing and Restoring (aka, you know, the Liber Algebrae).

[Hladgos]

It makes me extremely unhappy that historical monuments like this are destroyed and we hardly ever hear about it on the news. I wish something could be done, or would be done, as the destruction of our past is one of the most uninteligent things that humans do.

[The Archregimancy]

Overwhelming military force is necessary to protect archaeological sites, no major military powers are going to do so because the cost of a massive air and ground campaign is deemed to be more than the ancient artifacts are actually worth in monetary value. The stuff that can be moved can be loaded onto C-17s and flown away from the area of conflict if complete air superiority is maintained and enough ground is physically held to put enemy ground units out of range of threatening any air assets.

Forgive me, but I'm not sure that the statements "Overwhelming military force is necessary to protect archaeological sites" and "no major military powers are going to do so because the cost of a massive air and ground campaign is deemed to be more than the ancient artifacts are actually worth" are wholly compatible.

I've spent the best part of the last two years working on UNESCO World Heritage sites in the Middle East, and I regret to say that the non-existent military arsenal I keep in my basement storage area isn't really up to the task.