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Is War With Iran Our Best Option?

Postby Land and Freedom » Fri Mar 20, 2015 8:41 pm

Not sure if you people have already discussed this, but last week there was a bit of a stir over this article in the Washington Post.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/war-with-iran-is-probably-our-best-option/2015/03/13/fb112eb0-c725-11e4-a199-6cb5e63819d2_story.html

Where a neo-con writer insists that invading Iran is a far better idea than sanctions and diplomacy. Said writer insists it wouldn't even be that hard. Just a little aerial campaign to bomb their reactors and associated infrastructure. A cakewalk if you will...

What do you people think? Good idea or not? Should I start training for the draft?
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Postby Acro » Fri Mar 20, 2015 8:43 pm

No. There easy answer
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Postby Alistan » Fri Mar 20, 2015 8:43 pm

not at all, that will escalate into a full scale nuclear war
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Postby The Romulan Republic » Fri Mar 20, 2015 8:44 pm

Land and Freedom wrote:Not sure if you people have already discussed this, but last week there was a bit of a stir over this article in the Washington Post.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/war-with-iran-is-probably-our-best-option/2015/03/13/fb112eb0-c725-11e4-a199-6cb5e63819d2_story.html

Where a neo-con writer insists that invading Iran is a far better idea than sanctions and diplomacy. Said writer insists it wouldn't even be that hard. Just a little aerial campaign to bomb their reactors and associated infrastructure. A cakewalk if you will...

What do you people think? Good idea or not? Should I start training for the draft?


And then Iran retaliates, and America's diplomatic credibility gets even more fucked than it already is. Fuck that.
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Postby Sovjetia » Fri Mar 20, 2015 8:44 pm

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Postby Transyl » Fri Mar 20, 2015 8:46 pm

No, I don't think going to war with Iran is a good option..
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Postby Conserative Morality » Fri Mar 20, 2015 8:47 pm

It's probably our worst option, actually.
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Postby Kelinfort » Fri Mar 20, 2015 8:47 pm

Fuck yeah! Vietnam 2.0 3.0!
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Postby The 502nd SS » Fri Mar 20, 2015 8:49 pm

Kelinfort wrote:Fuck yeah! Vietnam 2.0 3.0!

Nah, I prefer that the folks in DC let the military do its job and not strangle them with ROE.
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Postby Neues Nationalsozialistiches Reich » Fri Mar 20, 2015 8:51 pm

A war with Iran will not only be very costly, but also disastrous. When fighting a war against a country like the US, Iran will need a lot of weapons and Russia and China are there to supply the need. Also, this will give legitimacy to Iran's calls for the destruction of America and might force Iran to have a temporary alliance with ISIS to fight the United States before they go back to killing each other.
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Postby Kelinfort » Fri Mar 20, 2015 8:52 pm

The 502nd SS wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:Fuck yeah! Vietnam 2.0 3.0!

Nah, I prefer that the folks in DC let the military do its job and not strangle them with ROE.

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Postby Saiwania » Fri Mar 20, 2015 8:55 pm

The US might've actually managed to get away with invading Iran if the Iraq war didn't happen. But it is too late now. Iran has been strengthened from Saddam being removed from power and Iraq is now in Iran's sphere of influence. Russia or China wouldn't be likely to ignore a third major US invasion of another nation, I can see either or both sending arms to Iran by proxy.

If I had it my way, George W. Bush would've invaded Iran instead. Saddam could've been kept contained in exchange for taking out his regional rival.
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Postby Land and Freedom » Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:05 pm

Neues Nationalsozialistiches Reich wrote:A war with Iran will not only be very costly, but also disastrous. When fighting a war against a country like the US, Iran will need a lot of weapons and Russia and China are there to supply the need. Also, this will give legitimacy to Iran's calls for the destruction of America and might force Iran to have a temporary alliance with ISIS to fight the United States before they go back to killing each other.


I can't see Iran and ISIS forming any sort of accord at all to be honest.
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Postby Land and Freedom » Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:07 pm

Saiwania wrote:The US might've actually managed to get away with invading Iran if the Iraq war didn't happen. But it is too late now. Iran has been strengthened from Saddam being removed from power and Iraq is now in Iran's sphere of influence. Russia or China wouldn't be likely to ignore a third major US invasion of another nation, I can see either or both sending arms to Iran by proxy.

If I had it my way, George W. Bush would've invaded Iran instead. Saddam could've been kept contained in exchange for taking out his regional rival.


You're probably right. The CIA was supporting Saddam's Iraq ever since the Islamic Revolution IIRC. The military industrial complex should stop switching horses.
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Postby Sun Wukong » Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:14 pm

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Postby Iidoomaan » Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:19 pm

their is no justification for invading iran in the first place. america is the aggressor.
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Postby The Lone Alliance » Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:23 pm

Sure it would be simple to just bomb the nuclear reactors, that is if Iranian's air defense isn't beefed up by Russia covertly.

But bombing nuclear reactors is just a recipe for a nuclear incident which could contaminate parts of Iran and possibly other nations depending on the winds.

Hell no.

We should not cause multiple possibly Chernobyl type disasters simply because of the deluded idiotic ravings of the current Israeli Administration who's own intelligence department disagrees with.
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Postby United Russian Soviet States » Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:24 pm

War should not be an option. America first!
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Postby Myrensis » Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:30 pm

No, it's the worst option. Really better hope that Hillary wins next year, because Republicans in their blind obsession with attacking Obama and making Israel a partisan issue have pretty much guaranteed it will be our only option if they get into power and screw up everything Russia, China and our European allies have been trying to do.
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Postby Kubra » Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:31 pm

Wouldn’t an attack cause ordinary Iranians to rally behind the regime? Perhaps, but military losses have also served to undermine regimes, including the Greek and Argentine juntas, the Russian czar and the Russian communists.
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Postby Earl of Sandwich IV » Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:31 pm

He layed out the case pretty good. I agree with him, if war is the only option to stop the Iranian nuclear program, which seems to be the case, we shouldn't hesitate.
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Postby Benian Republic » Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:33 pm

No don't go to war with Iran HAMAS needs them.
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Postby New Neros » Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:35 pm

These neocons need to learn that Iran =/= Iraq by a LONG shot. Iraq was mostly flat terrain, bordering three of our allies with numerous areas for re-supply, located close enough to the Persian Gulf to allow missile and airstrikes on a regular basis. Iran is a whole other world compared to that. It has mountains and plateaus popping up instantly from the Persian Gulf, Tehran itself is nestled in a mountain range far away from any area where the US and her allies could stage an invasion, and has a varied terrain of desert, forests, scrub land, and the like.

Drumming up support for a war that'll finally break the US, how delightful.
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Postby Vilatania » Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:37 pm

We need to LEAVE the middle-east entirely. That is our best option.
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Postby Earl of Sandwich IV » Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:40 pm

Vilatania wrote:We need to LEAVE the middle-east entirely. That is our best option.

That's the genocide option,
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