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by Estado Mexicanos » Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:14 pm
by Vilatania » Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:32 pm
Alternatively we could burn Jerusalem to the ground.Estado Mexicanos wrote:I think that the West Bank and Gaza should be under Palestinian administration. To prevent any fighting or destruction of historical artifacts important to Jews and Muslims alike, the City of Jerusalem should be a special case; such that both Israel and Palestine should have condominium over it, the responsibility of enforcing a demilitarized zone around it, and agree to have open borders through that city.
by Gauthier » Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:43 pm
Vilatania wrote:Alternatively we could burn Jerusalem to the ground.Estado Mexicanos wrote:I think that the West Bank and Gaza should be under Palestinian administration. To prevent any fighting or destruction of historical artifacts important to Jews and Muslims alike, the City of Jerusalem should be a special case; such that both Israel and Palestine should have condominium over it, the responsibility of enforcing a demilitarized zone around it, and agree to have open borders through that city.
by Vilatania » Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:52 am
by Sebtopiaris » Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:56 am
by Sebtopiaris » Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:00 am
Estado Mexicanos wrote:I think that the West Bank and Gaza should be under Palestinian administration. To prevent any fighting or destruction of historical artifacts important to Jews and Muslims alike, the City of Jerusalem should be a special case; such that both Israel and Palestine should have condominium over it, the responsibility of enforcing a demilitarized zone around it, and agree to have open borders through that city.
by British Home Counties » Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:54 am
by Seraven » Sun Mar 29, 2015 4:02 am
British Home Counties wrote:Sebtopiaris wrote:Israel are monsters too.
Everybody just needs to fucking get along. The UN partition was pretty shitty towards the Palestinians, but at least it's better than what's happening now.
Unfair by offering Palestine half of Palestine after they lost 9/10 of it in a war?
UN sound likes assholes!
The Alma Mater wrote:Seraven wrote:I know right! Whites enslaved the natives, they killed them, they converted them forcibly, they acted like a better human beings than the Muslims.
An excellent example of why allowing unrestricted immigration of people with a very different culture might not be the best idea ever :P
by Calenhardon » Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:41 am
Sebtopiaris wrote:Estado Mexicanos wrote:I think that the West Bank and Gaza should be under Palestinian administration. To prevent any fighting or destruction of historical artifacts important to Jews and Muslims alike, the City of Jerusalem should be a special case; such that both Israel and Palestine should have condominium over it, the responsibility of enforcing a demilitarized zone around it, and agree to have open borders through that city.
We give the UN power over Jerusalem, like what the LoN did with Danzig.
But then we'd have to make the UN have some power and will to do anything useful. Woops.
by Alsheb » Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:18 am
Angleter wrote:Vilatania wrote:Wouldn't it just be easier if we gave Israel to Palestine?
No. If anything, you've managed to hit on the most difficult 'plan' possible, regardless of whether it's the right thing to do (which it isn't). Considering that Israel will never willingly be 'given' to the Palestinians, it would involve the neutralisation of Israel's nuclear capabilities, the comprehensive defeat of the world's 11th strongest military, the absorption of what would probably be over 5 million fleeing Israeli Jews, dealing with a probably several-hundred-thousand-strong Jewish insurgency willing to fight to the death, and justifying all of this to the rest of the world.
by Alsheb » Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:20 am
Vilatania wrote:I doubt murdering civilians is included in that logic.Alsheb wrote:
Err... yes they do. Everyone everywhere has the right to protect and defend ones country, by lethal force if need be.
Saying that they're "not allowed to" is like condemning the Resistance of World War II for their "violence" against the occupiers.
by CTALNH » Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:04 pm
by Angleter » Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:05 pm
Alyakia wrote:Angleter wrote:
A potentially-nuclear war involving at least several hundred thousand deaths and the third-largest* single displacement of people (or rather, of an ethnic group) in human history in order to wipe an internationally-recognised sovereign democracy off the map and give its territory to a group of kleptocratic gangsters who fought an as yet still unresolved civil war with their jihadi rivals less than a decade ago? Great.
*Behind the Partition of India and the post-WW2 ethnic cleansing of Germans.
to be fair suggesting massive ethnic cleansing seems to be just one of the features of these threads
by Alsheb » Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:26 pm
CTALNH wrote:Why not through hamas?
by British Home Counties » Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:28 pm
by Alsheb » Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:29 pm
by British Home Counties » Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:33 pm
by Angleter » Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:35 pm
Alsheb wrote:Angleter wrote:
Usually that's more of a Northern Ireland thread sort of thing, though.
So when the colonists actually do commit ethnic cleansing, massacre the local population, break international law time and again and colonise sovereign lands of another country, that's a -okay; but when the people that have been driven out, massacred and persecuted for so long want their lands back, that's suddenly "calling for ethnic cleansing"?
by Liberty and Linguistics » Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:46 pm
CTALNH wrote:Why not through hamas?
by Insaeldor » Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:52 pm
by Alyakia » Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:55 pm
by Alsheb » Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:03 pm
Insaeldor wrote:Liberty and Linguistics wrote:
Because Hamas is a terrorist organization that will never offer any peaceful alternative to th crisis in Israel? The only people who support Hamas in the West are self proclaimed marxist hipsters and raving anti-Semites.
Consitering Marxist groups like the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine and the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine it silly for hardline communist to support a party that they would otherwise despise.
by Alsheb » Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:07 pm
by British Home Counties » Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:28 pm
Alsheb wrote:British Home Counties wrote:
Which one? As far as I am aware the British Mandate ended the day before Israel became a state.
The State of Palestine is a sovereign country, mate. The Israeli colonies in the West Bank are illegal in the eyes of every law, including the official law of Israel itself, by the way.
About the Nakba: the fact that the zionists declared Israel's independence and then proceeded to literally massacre and ethnically cleanse their way through Palestine doesn't really make their claim a legitimate one.
by Vicienna » Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:41 pm
HaMakom wrote:No, the land of Israel has always been and should remain Jewish land.
Why should we be prioritising terrorist anti-Semites over the Kurds anyway?
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