What is your personal stance on the United states

[Arkotania]

The Constitution is nice. It'd be nicer if some of the basic outlines of it were followed though...like the things in the preamble that seem to get often ignored.

Doesn't the US also have the most apathetic voters compared to other Western Democracies? I think I remember it being like ~35% of eligible people actually vote(except during Presidential elections which have a slightly higher turn-out).

We would have a higher percentage if state officials did not actively discourage voting by certain groups. In 2000, station wagons in Florida carrying blacks to the polls were pulled over and fined for operating as taxicabs without a license. Schenectady NY has no polling places within walking distance of Vail or Hall, its two poor neighborhoods. They are supposed to go downtown, to City Hall. Why so few sites? Oh, think a bit; I'm sure a possibility might occur to you.
So, the parents have to find a pay a babysitter and take the bus (few bus stops in those neighborhoods too), If they can get time off work. If their work shift runs to 7 PM they might make it to the polls in time to find it locked in their faces. "If you cared enough to vote, like well-to-do white people, you would have been here sooner."

I like to say we modernized democracy, but just forgot to update it.

[Nickel Empire]

Don't really care for them. As long as they buy our oil that's all I care.

[Pope Joan]

We would have a higher percentage if state officials did not actively discourage voting by certain groups. In 2000, station wagons in Florida carrying blacks to the polls were pulled over and fined for operating as taxicabs without a license. Schenectady NY has no polling places within walking distance of Vail or Hall, its two poor neighborhoods. They are supposed to go downtown, to City Hall. Why so few sites? Oh, think a bit; I'm sure a possibility might occur to you.
So, the parents have to find a pay a babysitter and take the bus (few bus stops in those neighborhoods too), If they can get time off work. If their work shift runs to 7 PM they might make it to the polls in time to find it locked in their faces. "If you cared enough to vote, like well-to-do white people, you would have been here sooner."

I like to say we modernized democracy, but just forgot to update it.

This modernized model is what we are exporting to the world. It works so well in the Mideast, right?

[Nickel Empire]

Also wish they would stop meddling and accept Keystone XL.

[Geanna]

I've heard Saudi Arabia is ready to kick us into second place in that regard.

I think Britian passed America at one point too, though I think things are back to status quo in that regard.

You lot are wrong - clearly the greatest country in the world is Kazakhstan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6Y7blEFjBM

[New Neros]

I think Britian passed America at one point too, though I think things are back to status quo in that regard.

You lot are wrong - clearly the greatest country in the world is Kazakhstan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6Y7blEFjBM

No no no, it's only a "very nice place"

[The Alexanderians]

I think Britian passed America at one point too, though I think things are back to status quo in that regard.

You lot are wrong - clearly the greatest country in the world is Kazakhstan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6Y7blEFjBM

Kazakhstan is fatter?

[Crimiea]

Isn't the grilled cheese a cheaper vegetarian option?

Why would I go to a burger place to get a grilled cheese sandwich?

Or you can buy a veggie burger from Burger King, place it in an In n Out wrapper, go to In n Out, buy Animal Style fries, and dine at In n Out? Muahahaha

I'm not sure why I would do those things. While Burger King has reasonably good veggie burgers, if I was going there, I'd just order fries from Burger King instead of making an additional trip to a place that considers a "veggie burger" to be nothing but vegetables inside a bun without a patty (because apparently In-n-Out burger is run by assholes).

1. People will wonder what it is.
2. You'll tell them it's an In n Out Veggie Burger.
3. People will ask them for Veggie Burgers.
4. They'll eventually have to comply if enough vegetarians beg for a veggie burger.
5. Congratulations, you Machiavelli'd In n Out!

[The Two Jerseys]

Being from the US, I love it.

No, we're not perfect, but there's far worse places you could go.

[Oneracon]

Individual Americans are the standard mix of nice and jerk-ish people (which you find everywhere) and are easy to get along with... but as a nation no. Expanding police state with eroding civil liberties, influence of the Religious Right, lack of real political choice, etc.

Nice to visit, at least certain areas, but I wouldn't want to live there.

[New Neros]

You lot are wrong - clearly the greatest country in the world is Kazakhstan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6Y7blEFjBM

Kazakhstan is fatter?

Being fatter means we have more food, and that means we win.

REST OF THE WORLD, ARE YOU EVEN TRYING?

[Yuketobaniac]

Being from the US, I love it.

No, we're not perfect, but there's far worse places you could go.

[New haven america]

You lot are wrong - clearly the greatest country in the world is Kazakhstan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6Y7blEFjBM

Kazakhstan is fatter?

Actually, Mexico is the fattest country in the world with a 32%(And rising) obesity rate. The US is only at 30%.

Hence, Mexico is the greatest country on the planet.

[Welskerland]

Also, let's be honest here, the only ones who can honestly say that Americans don't have culture are teenage, premature European exceptionalists, and a European exceptionalist is someone I hate actually more than an American exceptionalist. When the latter says shit like, "do you have computers in Eastern Europe?" you can write the inherent stupidity of the question down to a hilariously bad education system.

When a European says that Americans have no culture (JD Salinger, Jack Kerouac, Mark Twain, freaking Hemingway, Emma Goldman, most feminist theorists of the twentieth century as a whole, infinities of fantastic film and theatre productions, and the first written constitution after that one unheard-of Corsican one apparently don't exist to these people) it just shows a ridiculous failure to educate yourself. We can't really use the bad education system excuse, because ours are usually at least half decent. By no means is America some magical promised land, as one Hippo was once wont to claim, but it is also not a civilisationally backward colony stuck in the dark ages.

and ftr i'm very, very european

I'm American and I think we lack culture (except maybe the South)

[New Neros]

Kazakhstan is fatter?

Actually, Mexico is the fattest country in the world with a 32%(And rising) obesity rate. The US is only at 30%.

Hence, Mexico is the greatest country on the planet.

What else can you expect from a populace that drinks nothing by Coca-Cola because the local water supply is woefully underfunded?

[Glorious KASSRD]

Also, let's be honest here, the only ones who can honestly say that Americans don't have culture are teenage, premature European exceptionalists, and a European exceptionalist is someone I hate actually more than an American exceptionalist. When the latter says shit like, "do you have computers in Eastern Europe?" you can write the inherent stupidity of the question down to a hilariously bad education system.

When a European says that Americans have no culture (JD Salinger, Jack Kerouac, Mark Twain, freaking Hemingway, Emma Goldman, most feminist theorists of the twentieth century as a whole, infinities of fantastic film and theatre productions, and the first written constitution after that one unheard-of Corsican one apparently don't exist to these people) it just shows a ridiculous failure to educate yourself. We can't really use the bad education system excuse, because ours are usually at least half decent. By no means is America some magical promised land, as one Hippo was once wont to claim, but it is also not a civilisationally backward colony stuck in the dark ages.

and ftr i'm very, very european

I'm American and I think we lack culture (except maybe the South)

Yankees don't need to have culture for the us to have culture (even through they do). Dixie had culture, Texas has culture, Cascadia has culture, the territories have culture, and (sigh) even California has culture. We have many cultures.

[Seraven]

Nah.

[New Neros]

I'm American and I think we lack culture (except maybe the South)

Yankees don't need to have culture for the us to have culture (even through they do). Dixie had culture, Texas has culture, Cascadia has culture, the territories have culture, and (sigh) even California has culture. We have many cultures.

But at the end of the day, we have the best culture of all.

*sniffs*

American.

[Seraven]

Yankees don't need to have culture for the us to have culture (even through they do). Dixie had culture, Texas has culture, Cascadia has culture, the territories have culture, and (sigh) even California has culture. We have many cultures.

But at the end of the day, we have the best culture of all.

*sniffs*

American.

No.

World culture.

[Holy Prospero]

Also, let's be honest here, the only ones who can honestly say that Americans don't have culture are teenage, premature European exceptionalists, and a European exceptionalist is someone I hate actually more than an American exceptionalist. When the latter says shit like, "do you have computers in Eastern Europe?" you can write the inherent stupidity of the question down to a hilariously bad education system.

When a European says that Americans have no culture (JD Salinger, Jack Kerouac, Mark Twain, freaking Hemingway, Emma Goldman, most feminist theorists of the twentieth century as a whole, infinities of fantastic film and theatre productions, and the first written constitution after that one unheard-of Corsican one apparently don't exist to these people) it just shows a ridiculous failure to educate yourself. We can't really use the bad education system excuse, because ours are usually at least half decent. By no means is America some magical promised land, as one Hippo was once wont to claim, but it is also not a civilisationally backward colony stuck in the dark ages.

and ftr i'm very, very european

I'm American and I think we lack culture (except maybe the South)

I live in Britain and people always say that America 'has no culture' or 'has no history', but to be quite honest America is far more in touch with it's traditions than anyone in Britain. Americans for example, actually celebrate the fourth of July. I enjoy being in the States on the fourth of July because I find the genuine expression of patriotism and national feeling to be quite touching, not to mention exotic since it is entirely absent from modern Britain. The UK has a longer and richer history and culture to celebrate, yet it doesn't. The great figures of American history like the founding fathers, Lincoln and Davis and so on are still remembered to this day, revered and celebrated. The countless heroes of British history have been recast as evil imperialist oppressors and consigned to shame, ignominy, and obscurity.

[Arglorand]

I'm American and I think we lack culture (except maybe the South)

I live in Britain and people always say that America 'has no culture' or 'has no history', but to be quite honest America is far more in touch with it's traditions than anyone in Britain. Americans for example, actually celebrate the fourth of July. I enjoy being in the States on the fourth of July because I find the genuine expression of patriotism and national feeling to be quite touching, not to mention exotic since it is entirely absent from modern Britain. The UK has a longer and richer history and culture to celebrate, yet it doesn't. The great figures of American history like the founding fathers, Lincoln and Davis and so on are still remembered to this day, revered and celebrated. The countless heroes of British history have been recast as evil imperialist oppressors and consigned to shame, ignominy, and obscurity.

Maybe because they usually are, in fact, evil imperialist oppressors.

The ones that weren't oppressive, like Wilberforce or Attlee or even Churchill (no matter how much I dislike the man for his imperialism, he did do a good one with punching Hitler in the nuts), haven't been consigned to shame and ignominy. Maybe there's a reason.

[Dakini]

The Constitution is nice. It'd be nicer if some of the basic outlines of it were followed though...like the things in the preamble that seem to get often ignored.

Doesn't the US also have the most apathetic voters compared to other Western Democracies? I think I remember it being like ~35% of eligible people actually vote(except during Presidential elections which have a slightly higher turn-out).

We would have a higher percentage if state officials did not actively discourage voting by certain groups. In 2000, station wagons in Florida carrying blacks to the polls were pulled over and fined for operating as taxicabs without a license. Schenectady NY has no polling places within walking distance of Vail or Hall, its two poor neighborhoods. They are supposed to go downtown, to City Hall. Why so few sites? Oh, think a bit; I'm sure a possibility might occur to you.
So, the parents have to find a pay a babysitter and take the bus (few bus stops in those neighborhoods too), If they can get time off work. If their work shift runs to 7 PM they might make it to the polls in time to find it locked in their faces. "If you cared enough to vote, like well-to-do white people, you would have been here sooner."

It's pretty shocking to me how terrible voting apparently is in parts of the USA. In Canada, there are polling places pretty frequently in cities (schools, churches, community centres and even the lobbies of larger apartment buildings will often have them), but representatives for different parties will drive people to polling stations if you ask them to (even if you're not going to vote for them). In addition, your employer is legally required to give you a certain number of consecutive hours off work on election day so you can go vote. I've never heard of people waiting all day (or even lines that go out of a building) in Canada. Oh, plus you can always register to vote at the polling station. Even if you don't have identification, a neighbour can vouch for you.

Granted, I don't have much of an idea of what it's like in rural areas (I still think that polling stations are required to exist every so often, but I don't know how close they end up being to each other).

[Dakini]

Why would I go to a burger place to get a grilled cheese sandwich?


I'm not sure why I would do those things. While Burger King has reasonably good veggie burgers, if I was going there, I'd just order fries from Burger King instead of making an additional trip to a place that considers a "veggie burger" to be nothing but vegetables inside a bun without a patty (because apparently In-n-Out burger is run by assholes).

1. People will wonder what it is.
2. You'll tell them it's an In n Out Veggie Burger.
3. People will ask them for Veggie Burgers.
4. They'll eventually have to comply if enough vegetarians beg for a veggie burger.
5. Congratulations, you Machiavelli'd In n Out!

Apparently In-n-Out burger has a veggie burger that isn't really a burger so much as it is a vegetable sandwich (seriously, they sell you burger fixins between some bread and call it a veggie burger). There's already at least one online petition asking them to include a real veggie burger on their menu.

[Arumdaum]

1. People will wonder what it is.
2. You'll tell them it's an In n Out Veggie Burger.
3. People will ask them for Veggie Burgers.
4. They'll eventually have to comply if enough vegetarians beg for a veggie burger.
5. Congratulations, you Machiavelli'd In n Out!

Apparently In-n-Out burger has a veggie burger that isn't really a burger so much as it is a vegetable sandwich (seriously, they sell you burger fixins between some bread and call it a veggie burger). There's already at least one online petition asking them to include a real veggie burger on their menu.

Oh my god, the wish burger, haha. Yeah, In-N-Out really needs to fix that...

[Genivaria]

Yankees don't need to have culture for the us to have culture (even through they do). Dixie had culture, Texas has culture, Cascadia has culture, the territories have culture, and (sigh) even California has culture. We have many cultures.

But at the end of the day, we have the best culture of all.

*sniffs*

American.

That's not how you spell Irish.