California college bans American flag from part of campus

[Herrebrugh]

The saga continues. Their ban has been vetoed.
UC Irvine student cabinet vetoes ban on American flag.
"This misguided decision was not endorsed or supported in any way by the campus leadership, the University of California, or the broader student body,"according to the statement. "The views of a handful of students passing a resolution do not represent the opinions of the nearly 30,000 students on this campus and have no influence on the policies and practices of the university. The American flag is still proudly flying throughout our campus and will continue to do so."

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... story.html

That's democracy.I agree with both decisions.

"The resolution will now head back to the legislative council, which would have to pass the measure with a two-thirds majority to override the veto."

... This is a school?

[Imperium Sidhicum]

Not that I particularly care about the patriotic sentiment of US citizens, I just find it strange that such openly subversive and unpatriotic ideas are even allowed to be suggested.

[Imperializt Russia]

Not that I particularly care about the patriotic sentiment of US citizens, I just find it strange that such openly subversive and unpatriotic ideas are even allowed to be suggested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyRHHlt3M

[Ifreann]

Sigh. These students have enough time to be passing resolutions on how "offensive" an American flag in a room is. That's the real travesty. Manufactured outrage and controversy at its finest.

It's a travesty that the ASUCI has time to do its job?

[Keyboard Warriors]

Sigh. These students have enough time to be passing resolutions on how "offensive" an American flag in a room is. That's the real travesty. Manufactured outrage and controversy at its finest.

It's a travesty that the ASUCI has time to do its job?

Well personally, I'd hope that a student government body spends its time acting in the interests of students. As a university student myself, I must confess that I've given precisely zero thought to the array of flags around the campus which leads me to two possibilities. Either UCI is the greatest university in the world and there are no problems whatsoever to be dealt with, or this group isn't being honest with how they prioritize their agendas.

[Tekania]

As a US Military Veteran I have absolutely zero issue with a student government at a university voting to not display the US flag in their one student government room, or voting to keep it, or voting for anything. This seems like such a non-story and non-issue.

[Arumdaum]

Indeed.

Shouldn't these people be studying for exams or something?

It's UCI. They are to busy spending their parents money on stupid shit and getting smashed on drugs and booze.

Drugs? Irvine kids?

[Wallenburg]

As a US Military Veteran I have absolutely zero issue with a student government at a university voting to not display the US flag in their one student government room, or voting to keep it, or voting for anything. This seems like such a non-story and non-issue.

ΛΛΛ

This thread is so pointless it belongs in Forum 7. Seriously, you guys can't stand that the student body elected not to put flags in ONE FUCKING ROOM?! That's the issue. The OP expects everyone to barf red, white, and blue. I think we should have the freedom not to fly flags EVERYWHERE.

[Sattersburg]

As a US Military Veteran I have absolutely zero issue with a student government at a university voting to not display the US flag in their one student government room, or voting to keep it, or voting for anything. This seems like such a non-story and non-issue.

The United States flag is not some other flag. Brave men and women die every day in honor of that flag and what it represents (or used to represent, as these days America has gone to the dogs). I believe this is a major issue, along the same lines of a recent case where students in one California school were asked to not wear their American flag t shirts to school because it was Cinco de Mayo and the Mexican students took it offensive that they had them on. News flash people, THIS IS AMERICA!!! Our flag MEANS something! It doesn't matter what America has done in the past, nor what crimes that have been committed by this nation in the name of our flag. What matters is the fact that this flag is the symbol of our nation, and therefore should not only be displayed in that class room, but in every public building in the entire country.

[Imperializt Russia]

The United States flag is not some other flag. Brave men and women die every day in honor of that flag and what it represents (or used to represent, as these days America has gone to the dogs). I believe this is a major issue, along the same lines of a recent case where students in one California school were asked to not wear their American flag t shirts to school because it was Cinco de Mayo and the Mexican students took it offensive that they had them on. News flash people, THIS IS AMERICA!!! Our flag MEANS something! It doesn't matter what America has done in the past, nor what crimes that have been committed by this nation in the name of our flag. What matters is the fact that this flag is the symbol of our nation, and therefore should not only be displayed in that class room, but in every public building in the entire country.

Jesus Christ, is this the bullshit you've descended into since we left you to your own devices?

Fucking hell.
At least we have a person to invest our misplaced nationalism in, so it's not weird.

[Norstal]

The United States flag is not some other flag. Brave men and women die every day in honor of that flag and what it represents (or used to represent, as these days America has gone to the dogs). I believe this is a major issue, along the same lines of a recent case where students in one California school were asked to not wear their American flag t shirts to school because it was Cinco de Mayo and the Mexican students took it offensive that they had them on. News flash people, THIS IS AMERICA!!! Our flag MEANS something! It doesn't matter what America has done in the past, nor what crimes that have been committed by this nation in the name of our flag. What matters is the fact that this flag is the symbol of our nation, and therefore should not only be displayed in that class room, but in every public building in the entire country.

A US Navy Seaman just commented on this being trivial for him. I think if you're going to argue with this, I'll believe a veteran's words more than some random internet guy.

[Ifreann]

The United States flag is not some other flag.

Yes it is.

Brave men and women die every day in honor of that flag and what it represents (or used to represent, as these days America has gone to the dogs).

Just like every other flag.

I believe this is a major issue, along the same lines of a recent case where students in one California school were asked to not wear their American flag t shirts to school because it was Cinco de Mayo and the Mexican students took it offensive that they had them on.

That's really not what happened.

News flash people, THIS IS AMERICA!!! Our flag MEANS something!

Every flag means something.

It doesn't matter what America has done in the past, nor what crimes that have been committed by this nation in the name of our flag. What matters is the fact that this flag is the symbol of our nation, and therefore should not only be displayed in that class room, but in every public building in the entire country.

Sounds like a waste of time and money.

[Herrebrugh]

The United States flag is not some other flag. Brave men and women die every day in honor of that flag and what it represents (or used to represent, as these days America has gone to the dogs). I believe this is a major issue, along the same lines of a recent case where students in one California school were asked to not wear their American flag t shirts to school because it was Cinco de Mayo and the Mexican students took it offensive that they had them on. News flash people, THIS IS AMERICA!!! Our flag MEANS something! It doesn't matter what America has done in the past, nor what crimes that have been committed by this nation in the name of our flag. What matters is the fact that this flag is the symbol of our nation, and therefore should not only be displayed in that class room, but in every public building in the entire country.

I don't even think it looks particularly nice, so, eh.

[Imperializt Russia]

The United States flag is not some other flag. Brave men and women die every day in honor of that flag and what it represents (or used to represent, as these days America has gone to the dogs). I believe this is a major issue, along the same lines of a recent case where students in one California school were asked to not wear their American flag t shirts to school because it was Cinco de Mayo and the Mexican students took it offensive that they had them on. News flash people, THIS IS AMERICA!!! Our flag MEANS something! It doesn't matter what America has done in the past, nor what crimes that have been committed by this nation in the name of our flag. What matters is the fact that this flag is the symbol of our nation, and therefore should not only be displayed in that class room, but in every public building in the entire country.

I don't even think it looks particularly nice, so, eh.

Thirteen stripes, fifty stars...
It's just cluttered.

What was ever wrong with a simple tricolore?

[Norstal]

I don't even think it looks particularly nice, so, eh.

Thirteen stripes, fifty stars...
It's just cluttered.

What was ever wrong with a simple tricolore?

Tricolor so unique that every other European country uses it. Wao.

[Ifreann]

I don't even think it looks particularly nice, so, eh.

Thirteen stripes, fifty stars...
It's just cluttered.

What was ever wrong with a simple tricolore?

France has dibs on red, white and blue, though.

[Herrebrugh]

I don't even think it looks particularly nice, so, eh.

Thirteen stripes, fifty stars...
It's just cluttered.

What was ever wrong with a simple tricolore?

And symmetrical flags often look better anyway. Though, there are quite some exceptions I'm willing to make...

Thirteen stripes, fifty stars...
It's just cluttered.

What was ever wrong with a simple tricolore?

France has dibs on red, white and blue, though.

In that case those dibs are our's, damn it.

[Imperializt Russia]

Thirteen stripes, fifty stars...
It's just cluttered.

What was ever wrong with a simple tricolore?

France has dibs on red, white and blue, though.

Tell it to the Russians. And the Dutch.

Still though, France's story of the Tricolor is cool af.

[Greater-London]

Decision was made democratically at the university to ban the flag in parts of the campus. It's a silly decision, I don't agree with it but hey that happens in a democracy.

[Oneracon]

The United States flag is not some other flag. Brave men and women die every day in honor of that flag and what it represents (or used to represent, as these days America has gone to the dogs). I believe this is a major issue, along the same lines of a recent case where students in one California school were asked to not wear their American flag t shirts to school because it was Cinco de Mayo and the Mexican students took it offensive that they had them on. News flash people, THIS IS AMERICA!!! Our flag MEANS something! It doesn't matter what America has done in the past, nor what crimes that have been committed by this nation in the name of our flag. What matters is the fact that this flag is the symbol of our nation, and therefore should not only be displayed in that class room, but in every public building in the entire country.

Exactly, why encourage critical thinking when blind nationalism works so much better?

[Herrebrugh]

The United States flag is not some other flag. Brave men and women die every day in honor of that flag and what it represents (or used to represent, as these days America has gone to the dogs). I believe this is a major issue, along the same lines of a recent case where students in one California school were asked to not wear their American flag t shirts to school because it was Cinco de Mayo and the Mexican students took it offensive that they had them on. News flash people, THIS IS AMERICA!!! Our flag MEANS something! It doesn't matter what America has done in the past, nor what crimes that have been committed by this nation in the name of our flag. What matters is the fact that this flag is the symbol of our nation, and therefore should not only be displayed in that class room, but in every public building in the entire country.

Exactly, why encourage critical thinking when blind nationalism works so much better?

Ignorance is strength and all that jazz.

[Ifreann]

France has dibs on red, white and blue, though.

Tell it to the Russians. And the Dutch.

Those are just parts of France.

[Imperializt Russia]

Tell it to the Russians. And the Dutch.

Those are just parts of France.

[Oneracon]

Exactly, why encourage critical thinking when blind nationalism works so much better?

Ignorance is strength and all that jazz.

We have always been at war with Eastasia, etc.

[Wallenburg]

The United States flag is not some other flag. Brave men and women die every day in honor of that flag and what it represents (or used to represent, as these days America has gone to the dogs). I believe this is a major issue, along the same lines of a recent case where students in one California school were asked to not wear their American flag t shirts...

We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.