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Postby Wallenburg » Sun Feb 22, 2015 11:25 pm

Beniaminia wrote:I think that autistic persons should receive mandatory euthanasia. They are more inclined to psychological and moral degeneration.

Wow. Even uglier than eugenics. You know, it's as if he wanted to be reported.
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Postby Torisakia » Sun Feb 22, 2015 11:31 pm

I mean, I'm all for the idea of scream rooms. But why lock him in a stone closet? A simple 5-minute timeout in a sound isolation booth would've sufficed.

Eh, same bullshit. Fire the teachers, compensate the kids and his parents, shut down the school, start riots, profit.
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Postby Saiwania » Sun Feb 22, 2015 11:53 pm

This isn't really new, isolation rooms have been around for decades. My public elementary school had one. I went with a friend to pick up his brother and I looked through the window of this door and the room itself was empty and just consisted of carpeted walls, so I must assume that is what it was.
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Postby The Conez Imperium » Mon Feb 23, 2015 12:34 am

Deplorable at best if not outright disgusting. There can be no excuse for locking an Autistic child in a concrete confinement room.

Also why does the Mother specifically mention Russian prison?
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Postby Urran » Mon Feb 23, 2015 12:38 am

There really IS sin in this world....where can I find this teacher and who wants to help me with a really heavy black garbage bag?
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Postby Bokkern-Teras » Wed Feb 25, 2015 3:22 pm

So now they put kids in rooms that could be compared to prisons? I wonder if they do this to kids in other places. And also, why the hell would the teacher keep on shutting the door on the kids hand that you could see bones?

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Postby Benian Republic » Wed Feb 25, 2015 3:26 pm

:eek: I don't think I'll want my children to go to school in the US...
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Postby Geilinor » Wed Feb 25, 2015 3:28 pm

I'm not sure what the bill makes the punishment for this, but action can be taken soon.
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Postby Dain II Ironfoot » Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:03 pm

Socialist Tera wrote:
Autistic boy's terror at being locked in isolated concrete 'scream room' where he was left with a broken hand by his TEACHERS: Parents launch campaign against violent - yet legal - methods US schools use to control troubled students
Carson Luke, 10, was locked inside the so-called quiet room in March 2011
Workers would turn on a ventilation fan to drown out the screaming
Heather, his mother, compared it to the inside of a Russian prison
His hand was crushed while teachers tried to slam the door shut
The wound was so deep the bone was exposed and required surgery
Controversial restraint methods have been used 267,000 times since 2012
Seclusion rooms are contentious, but widely used across the country



Horrifying: Carson Luke, 13, still has nightmares about the experience at a school in Chesapeake, Virginia, four years ago when he was locked in a concrete seclusion room
'That's code for a concrete room with deadbolts that looks like it's out of an old Russian prison,' said Carson's mother, Heather Luke.
The use of seclusion rooms, as they are known, is contentious, but they are widely used across the country.
Because of stories like Carson's, the Virginia General Assembly passed legislation to rein in the use of seclusion and restraint as methods of controlling children in public schools.
Gov. Terry McAuliffe, a Democrat, is expected to soon sign the bill into law, making the state the 33rd to govern the use of seclusion and restraint in schools by law or regulation.
Critics say such techniques are almost always unnecessary to keep order in the classroom and are actually counterproductive, exposing kids to physical and emotional injury and long-term trauma.
According to data collected by the U.S. Department of Education, the school Carson went to used seclusion 559 times and restraint 177 times in 2011, the year Carson was injured.
The new Virginia legislation requires the state Board of Education to develop statewide regulations governing the use of seclusion and restraint. It was passed over the objections of lobbyists for school boards and principals who said it would allow school administrators too little discretion.

Injuries: On one occasion he broke his hand when teachers trapped it in the 'quiet room's' door. The wound was so deep the bone was exposed and doctors had to operate on it
Seclusion and restraint 'can be an appropriate and necessary technique to utilize in order to avoid dangerous situations and to maintain order in the public schools,' attorney Kathleen Mehfoud wrote on behalf of Virginia school boards and superintendents.
The legislation was recommended by the Virginia Commission on Youth, which has studied the issue over the past year. The commission received more than 60 public comments, some from parents describing abusive treatment of their children at school.
Seclusion and restraint 'can be an appropriate and necessary technique to utilize in order to avoid dangerous situations and to maintain order in the public schools,' attorney Kathleen Mehfoud wrote on behalf of Virginia school boards and superintendents.
The legislation was recommended by the Virginia Commission on Youth, which has studied the issue over the past year. The commission received more than 60 public comments, some from parents describing abusive treatment of their children at school.
His physical wounds have healed. The emotional ones are still with us
Heather Luke, Carson's mother
The mother of an autistic child described how he was held down face first on a concrete floor by five adults until he had a seizure, wet himself and passed out from exhaustion.
The mother of another disabled child told of visiting her son's school and discovering he had been strapped into a chair facing a blank wall for a 'time-out.'
In many cases, the parents said they weren't told when the methods were used on their children.
In almost all cases, the complaints involved children with disabilities.
Nationally, according to the commission, while students with disabilities make up just 12 percent of all students, they represent 75 percent of those physically restrained and 58 percent of those secluded.
There have been repeated attempts in Congress over the past five years to establish nationwide standards, but they have gone nowhere.

Sources: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... dents.html
http://www.inquisitr.com/1844645/autist ... g.comments
Should the School or/and the teachers be accountable for the actions of the individual teachers? I think that the School should reimburse the parents of the child for all the trauma and damage to the child, the teachers should be thrown in jail for child abuse. It is a shame that ableist scum like that are able to take care of the most vulnerable of children, it is simply disgusting...


This is really disgusting. Honestly, this really changes the way of what i think about the US, that such things are allowed there.... Backwards country.
Anyhow, yes, they should be held accountable both the school as the teachers. They should be hanged, all of them.
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Postby Iwassoclose » Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:56 pm

Yea. These kids need to be restrained if the need calls for it, I am not sure you guys understand how violent they get.

Isolating them in a locked room to take them away from the stimulus and keep them away from other kids is a good move imo. Otherwise you just get a room full of potentially violent and yelling kids.

It was just shitty that that there was an accident with the hand.

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Postby Zeinbrad » Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:00 pm

Iwassoclose wrote:Yea. These kids need to be restrained if the need calls for it, I am not sure you guys understand how violent they get.

Isolating them in a locked room to take them away from the stimulus and keep them away from other kids is a good move imo. Otherwise you just get a room full of potentially violent and yelling kids.

It was just shitty that that there was an accident with the hand.

I feel that there is more effective methods. Well it depends on the kid but I would assume that giving them something to do that they enjoy (toys, games, books, the interwebs) could calm them down and keep their mind off of the thing causing them to go haywire.

Of course,sometimes the autistic person (I am saying this as an Autistic person with a very autistic cousin) can be a danger to themselves, hitting themselves or others.
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Postby Aethrys » Thu Feb 26, 2015 9:09 pm

Sensible measures like securing the budget to procure a few child sized straitjackets would prevent similar hand in door slamming injuries in the future when locking them in "The screaming room".
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