My family were farming potatoes in virtual slavery in Ireland... I don't have very favorable views on those who exploit others for their labor.
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by The Dominion Of The Corn » Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:14 pm
by Distruzio » Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:14 pm
by Yumyumsuppertime » Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:15 pm
by Corunia and Mironor » Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:15 pm
by The Dominion Of The Corn » Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:16 pm
Anglo-California wrote:The Dominion Of The Corn wrote:Stars and Stripes forever! Washington, Jefferson, and Franklin did not struggle to see their beloved nation torn apart by traitorous Southerners, Copperheads, and various other forms of treasonous scum. Even though I think Robert E. Lee was a swell guy, and certain Union lads were deplorable assholes, the traitors were undoubtedly in the wrong. My only sorrow about the Civil War is that Lincoln was assassinated and Johnson, a Southerner and a Democrat, let the South get off easily after the war.
Yeah that, too. I wish Lincoln survived.
by Jamzmania » Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:16 pm
Udinia wrote:Both sides had legitimate reasons for their actions, but both also were full of shit, in my opinion. Of course, as a Southerner, I tend to sympathize with the CSA to an extent. I by no means agree with slavery, however, the Union and Lincoln are unjustly romanticized in history as some sort of righteous defenders of "freedom". Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation was nothing more than propaganda to rouse the Union into a spirit of war, and appeal to its liberal sentiments.
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by Anglo-California » Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:17 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:Anglo-California wrote:I've been anti-Confederate for a while.
Within the far-right community, I've taken some heat for being such an ardent supporter of the Union, and if necessary, I will argue how the Confederacy was a net harm for American whites, and had it been allowed to win, the result would have been disastrous for both sides.
I'm also an American nationalist, which means I support the political unity of the American nation, and I will fight those who wish to divide it for the sake of using enslaved labor, which would have enriched themselves and hurt their fellow Americans.
Contrary to what many white nationalists say, the Confederate government was incredibly anti-white, often screwing over the common people out of work and wealth by using slaves (which was a crime in its own right). Meanwhile, the glorious Union government was clearing a frontier for our posterity.
You are an American, and being a rich asshole from South Carolina doesn't change that. I wish Andrew Jackson brutally crushed them during Nullification, preventing the Civil War entirely.
So yeah, we will live and die together in the Army of the Free.
I guess we can start fighting again, then.
by Conserative Morality » Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:17 pm
The 501st SR wrote:They fought because they were asked to, not because they supported slavery or any of that stuff
by Norstal » Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:17 pm
Udinia wrote:Both sides had legitimate reasons for their actions, but both also were full of shit, in my opinion. Of course, as a Southerner, I tend to sympathize with the CSA to an extent. I by no means agree with slavery, however, the Union and Lincoln are unjustly romanticized in history as some sort of righteous defenders of "freedom". Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation was nothing more than propaganda to rouse the Union into a spirit of war, and appeal to its liberal sentiments.
Oh yeah and before anyone tries implying I have some sort of "white chauvinism" or whatever, let me set one thing straight....I'm not white.
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by The Dominion Of The Corn » Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:18 pm
Distruzio wrote:Not a civil war, by definition.
I sympathize with the Confederacy. That said, I don't wish she'd won. Nor do I believe the North was unjustified in acting as she did.
by Conserative Morality » Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:18 pm
Distruzio wrote:Not a civil war, by definition.
by Wisconsin9 » Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:18 pm
by The New Sea Territory » Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:18 pm
Corunia and Mironor wrote:I support the Union, because slavery is morally wrong. Simple as that.
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by -United Islamic Emirate- » Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:19 pm
by -The West Coast- » Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:19 pm
by Conserative Morality » Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:20 pm
Anglo-California wrote:Rest assured they'd be kicking it in Liberia if Lincoln lived.
by The New Sea Territory » Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:20 pm
-United Islamic Emirate- wrote:I own a confederate battle flag and in no way do I support them. Thoughts on this pleas?
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"Christianity had brutally planted the poisoned blade in the healthy, quivering flesh of all humanity; it had goaded a cold wave
of darkness with mystically brutal fury to dim the serene and festive exultation of the dionysian spirit of our pagan ancestors."
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by Jamzmania » Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:20 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:The 501st SR wrote:They fought because they were asked to, not because they supported slavery or any of that stuff
Congratulations! They were asked to fight for slavery and they did so!
I have more respect for the 100,000 Southern Unionists who bravely fought for their country against the would-be aristocrats in the South.
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No matter what their size.
Call upon me,
And I will equalize."
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by New Frenco Empire » Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:21 pm
by The Rebel Alliances » Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:21 pm
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:The 501st SR wrote:They fought because they were asked to, not because they supported slavery or any of that stuff
So they didn't even have the excuse of thinking that it was a good idea. They did it because someone else thought that it was a good idea, and told them to fight for it.
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by Anglo-California » Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:21 pm
-United Islamic Emirate- wrote:I own a confederate battle flag and in no way do I support them. Thoughts on this pleas?
by Yumyumsuppertime » Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:21 pm
by Wisconsin9 » Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:21 pm
-The West Coast- wrote:The Confederacy was allowed to rebel and try to overthrow a government they saw as tyrannical. It's our natural, unalienable right as Americans, nay, our basic duty as men to deny a tyrannical government the ability to govern any further. Not only was their action to rebel and attempt to overthrow perfectly legal, it also had precedent. 1776. Calling them treasonous rebels is incorrect. They were the most patriotic Americans of the time.
by The Black Forrest » Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:21 pm
-The West Coast- wrote:The Confederacy was allowed to rebel and try to overthrow a government they saw as tyrannical. It's our natural, unalienable right as Americans, nay, our basic duty as men to deny a tyrannical government the ability to govern any further. Not only was their action to rebel and attempt to overthrow perfectly legal, it also had precedent. 1776. Calling them treasonous rebels is incorrect. They were the most patriotic Americans of the time.
by -United Islamic Emirate- » Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:22 pm
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