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by Dracoria » Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:26 pm
Insaeldor wrote:Securitan wrote:Very good. However, if I were a westerner in 1840, it would be irrational for me to believe in something with absolutely no evidence. More people exist today than they did then, so obviously the chances of someone running across and killing a Bigfoot would've taken less time than it took 150 years ago. Also, people back then were not actively searching for gorillas like people are searching for Bigfeet today.
Given the remoteness of these locations it completly plausibly to not run across these animals. I mean we discover new species all the time so it's not impossible for an animal to live secluded from scientific discovery within the remote woodland of British Columbia.
by Dracoria » Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:27 pm
Laerod wrote:Scomagia wrote:Then there's the issue of hunters and campers in "Bigfoot habitat". If Bigfoot existed in any significant numbers, which they would have to for all of these "sightings" to be true, someone would have bagged one by now.
Coelocanths, man. They live in an environment humans do not venture to very often, and even then it's really, really dark. Their remains tend to not fare well at the surface (on account of differences in pressure often turning them into shredded meat), if they make it there at all. All this makes them a lot harder to prove as existing than bigfoot, and yet fishermen were still managing to haul out evidence for quite some time before scientists managed to identify them as real. All those things counting against coelocanths ever being found and there was still a bounty of evidence.
by Master Shake » Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:30 pm
United Marxist Nations wrote:Don't believe in it; I'd be open to it, but there is not much except for eyewitness testimony.
by United Marxist Nations » Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:42 pm
Master Shake wrote:United Marxist Nations wrote:Don't believe in it; I'd be open to it, but there is not much except for eyewitness testimony.
I guess DNA evidence of an ape in the woods and hair samples don't mean shit to you?
I mean sure they have hoaxed the foot prints, but the yells and screams of the Bigfoot are unique.
Also how do you discredit the Yeti as a hoax(I guess the hoaxers vacation in Tibet often)?
These mountain apes are cave dwellers and rarely leave their caves during the day. Nocturnal animals are harder to see/photograph....
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by Master Shake » Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:54 pm
United Marxist Nations wrote:Master Shake wrote:
I guess DNA evidence of an ape in the woods and hair samples don't mean shit to you?
I mean sure they have hoaxed the foot prints, but the yells and screams of the Bigfoot are unique.
Also how do you discredit the Yeti as a hoax(I guess the hoaxers vacation in Tibet often)?
These mountain apes are cave dwellers and rarely leave their caves during the day. Nocturnal animals are harder to see/photograph....
1) There is no DNA evidence.
2) That is eyewitness testimony, which is unreliable in the natural sciences.
3) The same way I'd discredit "bigfoot".
4) How would you know?
by Distruzio » Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:16 pm
Scomagia wrote:I tend not to believe in things that both lack evidence and have a long track record of hoaxing.
by Luziyca » Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:31 pm
Scomagia wrote:I tend not to believe in things that both lack evidence and have a long track record of hoaxing.
by Seangoli » Thu Jan 29, 2015 1:14 am
2. So some hippie just cut off a lock of their hair and that is how you explain the "ape/monkey" DNA?
3. So there is a global network of Bigfoot/Yeti hoaxers? Seriously? How the hell would they have kept in touch in the 40s and 50s?
They didn't have internet and Ipods and sure as hell didn't even have long distance calling from Tibet to Washington state!
4. I watch documentaries and other info that you probably wouldn't be interested in.
What does Tibet have to gain?
by Uawc » Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:41 am
by Laerod » Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:43 am
Dracoria wrote:Laerod wrote:Coelocanths, man. They live in an environment humans do not venture to very often, and even then it's really, really dark. Their remains tend to not fare well at the surface (on account of differences in pressure often turning them into shredded meat), if they make it there at all. All this makes them a lot harder to prove as existing than bigfoot, and yet fishermen were still managing to haul out evidence for quite some time before scientists managed to identify them as real. All those things counting against coelocanths ever being found and there was still a bounty of evidence.
Coelocanths were known about for a long while, by local fishermen anyway. They just didn't know that the ugly, useless fish they occasionally netted as bycatch was actually of great scientific value.
It's kind of doubtful anyone would make the same mistake with a Bigfoot.
by Nazi Flower Power » Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:53 am
Infected Mushroom wrote:Ifreann wrote:Well I don't see how there can be any other possibilities.
Here's one possibility, some of them saw Big Foot (not all of them, but more than one). Big Foot is not an interdimensional wizard, he's an interdimensional creature.
There are plenty of other possibilities and combinations.
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by Sebtopiaris » Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:11 am
by Sebtopiaris » Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:12 am
Nazi Flower Power wrote:Infected Mushroom wrote:
Here's one possibility, some of them saw Big Foot (not all of them, but more than one). Big Foot is not an interdimensional wizard, he's an interdimensional creature.
There are plenty of other possibilities and combinations.
It's obviously a Confederate genetic engineering project that the government covered up because they don't want to admit the Confederates had genetic engineering. Winners write history, bro.
by Nazi Flower Power » Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:19 am
by Master Shake » Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:29 am
Sebtopiaris wrote:Because a hominid likely an Australopithocene or perhaps a relative of gigantopethicus was capable of crossing the Bering land bridge during the Pleistocene and avoiding human detection until the 21st century. Doesn't seem very plausible.
by Seangoli » Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:12 am
Master Shake wrote:
Also there are myths from olden days that native peoples would talk about, but I guess that isn't proof....
by Seangoli » Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:16 am
Sebtopiaris wrote:Because a hominid likely an Australopithocene or perhaps a relative of gigantopethicus was capable of crossing the Bering land bridge during the Pleistocene and avoiding human detection until the 21st century. Doesn't seem very plausible.
by Master Shake » Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:58 am
Seangoli wrote:Master Shake wrote:
Also there are myths from olden days that native peoples would talk about, but I guess that isn't proof....
Those myths are massive bastardized interpretations of the stories. Those myths and stories told by natives were rather explicitly about bears. The confusion lies in the fact that native myth and legend would often call bears as "old men", and treated them as being just as intelligent as people. There is no mystery in the stories. Only people who know jack shit about native mythology and oral tradition interpreting stories from concepts they don't know and don't care to know think it's about some sort of Ape-like being.
Let me be blunt: Big foot hunters know jack all about the "evidence" they are fronting. They don't understand the oral traditions they levy, they don't understand primate behavior and biology, they don't have a basic understanding of ecosystems and diets of any primates, and they don't care to know. All of their assumptions are based on complete fabrications and falsehood because they are intellectually lazy.
by Hurdegaryp » Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:01 am
Master Shake wrote:Seangoli wrote:
Those myths are massive bastardized interpretations of the stories. Those myths and stories told by natives were rather explicitly about bears. The confusion lies in the fact that native myth and legend would often call bears as "old men", and treated them as being just as intelligent as people. There is no mystery in the stories. Only people who know jack shit about native mythology and oral tradition interpreting stories from concepts they don't know and don't care to know think it's about some sort of Ape-like being.
Let me be blunt: Big foot hunters know jack all about the "evidence" they are fronting. They don't understand the oral traditions they levy, they don't understand primate behavior and biology, they don't have a basic understanding of ecosystems and diets of any primates, and they don't care to know. All of their assumptions are based on complete fabrications and falsehood because they are intellectually lazy.
My apologies...I forget that I'm talking to the Zoo keeper...
Anyway we will find Bigfoot and you'll have to listen to the "I told you so"...
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.
by Seangoli » Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:05 am
Master Shake wrote:
My apologies...I forget that I'm talking to the Zoo keeper...
Anyway we will find Bigfoot and you'll have to listen to the "I told you so"...
by Laerod » Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:05 am
Hurdegaryp wrote:Master Shake wrote:My apologies...I forget that I'm talking to the Zoo keeper...
Anyway we will find Bigfoot and you'll have to listen to the "I told you so"...
Good luck with that endeavour. You're going to need it, especially if Bigfoot turns out to be an interdimensional quantum flux being.
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