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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:17 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
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A legend is something that may or may not be true.


It's a narrative that incorporates elements that could be real (emphasis on could), and also fiction. I can say I saw La Llorona in a lonely road in Arkansas. I can say she was dressed in sequins and high heels and was trying to catch a fink. I can say the moon was bright and it was midnight. That, however, is not solid evidence that La Llorona exists.

No, see, it totally could be, because paranormal! If we call things paranormal then any nonsense can be true!
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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:17 pm

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The Big Foot, if it exists, would clearly have paranormal statistics.

This means it could very well be one eternal (never-dying) Big Foot which interacts with this plane of existence on its own terms.

This is how you would square the apparent contradiction between so many reported sightings over history (in both modern and not so modern times) with the absence of solid identifiable traces and corpses...

Yes, by making up shit about magic.

Can't say I have never heard anything about dimensional travel in any of the various Bigfoot interpretations. Or that it is supposedly paranormal.
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Postby Scomagia » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:18 pm

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Bezkoshtovnya wrote:So you are taking a Native American legend of a wild animal that has endured through time through folklore and tacking on some kind of transdemensional traveler aspect to it? That really sounds like grasping at straws.


It is very much possible. The Big Foot is a North American legend after all. So it would make sense that ancient peoples (people probably more attuned and open to the supernatural and the paranormal, thus more likely to have a natural connection to the land and other side)... could have correctly postulated some of its characteristics.

It makes more sense that they made Bigfoot up to scare their kids into behaving and not wandering off into the woods. You know, like basically every other culture has done.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:18 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
A legend is something that may or may not be true.


It's a narrative that incorporates elements that could be real (emphasis on could), and also fiction. I can say I saw La Llorona in a lonely road in Arkansas. I can say she was dressed in sequins and high heels and was trying to catch a fink. I can say the moon was bright and it was midnight. That, however, is not solid evidence that La Llorona exists.


Rule 1: Anything is possible.

Rule 2: Eyewitnesses should never be dismissed casually. Everyone's subjective experiences should be respected. If someone comes up to me and says they saw Big Foot (and there's a gigantic line stretching back throughout the ages of people seeing similar things), I'll take it as face value.

As for your La Llorona thing, again, it all depends on how much support there is for it. If thousands of people have said over history that they saw what you saw, I'm going to have to start to take it more seriously.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:19 pm

Bezkoshtovnya wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Yes, by making up shit about magic.

Can't say I have never heard anything about dimensional travel in any of the various Bigfoot interpretations. Or that it is supposedly paranormal.

Pshah, of course Bigfoot is an interdimensional, hairy wizard. Otherwise he might not exist, and that's just not possible.
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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:20 pm

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Bezkoshtovnya wrote:So you are taking a Native American legend of a wild animal that has endured through time through folklore and tacking on some kind of transdemensional traveler aspect to it? That really sounds like grasping at straws.

It is very much possible. The Big Foot is a North American legend after all. So it would make sense that ancient peoples (people probably more attuned and open to the supernatural and the paranormal, thus more likely to have a natural connection to the land and other side)... could have correctly postulated some of its characteristics.

....sure. Now this REALLY sounds like grasping at straws with this "more tuned to the music of the spheres" nonsense....
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:20 pm

Scomagia wrote:
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La Llorona, Chucpacabras, the Jersey Devil... all real, if we follow IM's logic.

Which is amusing because, as I recall it, the whole Bigfoot myth has it's roots in spooky tales Native Americans would tell their kids to make them behave, much like the boogeyman, La Llorona, etc. I could be wrong, though.


When it comes to La Llorona (Woman in White or The Weeper, there are some similarities with the Celtic Banshee), the legend says she was a gorgeous lady who drowned her children in order to be with the man she loved. He rejected her so she drowned herself. According to the legend, she is cursed, doomed to find her dead offspring forever.

Parents often use this story to prevent their children from wandering out at night. In some versions of this tale and legend, La Llorona will kidnap wandering children who resemble her missing children. People who claim to have seen her say she appears at night or in the late evenings from rivers or lakes in Mexico. Some believe that those who hear the wails of La Llorona are marked for death...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Llorona#Legend

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Postby Securitan » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:20 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
It's a narrative that incorporates elements that could be real (emphasis on could), and also fiction. I can say I saw La Llorona in a lonely road in Arkansas. I can say she was dressed in sequins and high heels and was trying to catch a fink. I can say the moon was bright and it was midnight. That, however, is not solid evidence that La Llorona exists.


Rule 1: Anything is possible.

Rule 2: Eyewitnesses should never be dismissed casually. Everyone's subjective experiences should be respected. If someone comes up to me and says they saw Big Foot (and there's a gigantic line stretching back throughout the ages of people seeing similar things), I'll take it as face value.

As for your La Llorona thing, again, it all depends on how much support there is for it. If thousands of people have said over history that they saw what you saw, I'm going to have to start to take it more seriously.

1. Fairies are also possible.

2. Eyewitnesses have claimed to have seen ghosts and UFOs too.
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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:20 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Bezkoshtovnya wrote:Can't say I have never heard anything about dimensional travel in any of the various Bigfoot interpretations. Or that it is supposedly paranormal.

Pshah, of course Bigfoot is an interdimensional, hairy wizard. Otherwise he might not exist, and that's just not possible.

Could be Hagrid.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:20 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
It is very much possible. The Big Foot is a North American legend after all. So it would make sense that ancient peoples (people probably more attuned and open to the supernatural and the paranormal, thus more likely to have a natural connection to the land and other side)... could have correctly postulated some of its characteristics.

It makes more sense that they made Bigfoot up to scare their kids into behaving and not wandering off into the woods. You know, like basically every other culture has done.


If it was completely made up, there wouldn't be THAT many reported sightings over history.

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:21 pm

Securitan wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Rule 1: Anything is possible.

Rule 2: Eyewitnesses should never be dismissed casually. Everyone's subjective experiences should be respected. If someone comes up to me and says they saw Big Foot (and there's a gigantic line stretching back throughout the ages of people seeing similar things), I'll take it as face value.

As for your La Llorona thing, again, it all depends on how much support there is for it. If thousands of people have said over history that they saw what you saw, I'm going to have to start to take it more seriously.

1. Fairies are also possible.

2. Eyewitnesses have claimed to have seen ghosts and UFOs too.


yes they have

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:21 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
It's a narrative that incorporates elements that could be real (emphasis on could), and also fiction. I can say I saw La Llorona in a lonely road in Arkansas. I can say she was dressed in sequins and high heels and was trying to catch a fink. I can say the moon was bright and it was midnight. That, however, is not solid evidence that La Llorona exists.

No, see, it totally could be, because paranormal! If we call things paranormal then any nonsense can be true!


By Jove, man, you're right!

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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:21 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Scomagia wrote:It makes more sense that they made Bigfoot up to scare their kids into behaving and not wandering off into the woods. You know, like basically every other culture has done.


If it was completely made up, there wouldn't be THAT many reported sightings over history.

Says who? That is just faulty reasoning. Again, probably started as a fairy tale told to scare children, someone misidentified a bear in the woods one day, and then boom, it took off.
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Postby Securitan » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:22 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Securitan wrote:1. Fairies are also possible.

2. Eyewitnesses have claimed to have seen ghosts and UFOs too.


yes they have

ok
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:22 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Scomagia wrote:It makes more sense that they made Bigfoot up to scare their kids into behaving and not wandering off into the woods. You know, like basically every other culture has done.


If it was completely made up, there wouldn't be THAT many reported sightings over history.

Definitely not. I mean, no one would ever see a bear or a big cat or any other animal or a shadow in the distance and think it was Bigfoot. People are never wrong about the things they see. Not ever.
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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:23 pm

Securitan wrote:
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yes they have

ok

Clearly it is undeniable proof that they exist then. I mean, people don't LIE, or misidentify. Psh.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:23 pm

Bezkoshtovnya wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Pshah, of course Bigfoot is an interdimensional, hairy wizard. Otherwise he might not exist, and that's just not possible.

Could be Hagrid.

Yer a sasquatch, Harry.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:23 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
It's a narrative that incorporates elements that could be real (emphasis on could), and also fiction. I can say I saw La Llorona in a lonely road in Arkansas. I can say she was dressed in sequins and high heels and was trying to catch a fink. I can say the moon was bright and it was midnight. That, however, is not solid evidence that La Llorona exists.


Rule 1: Anything is possible.

Rule 2: Eyewitnesses should never be dismissed casually. Everyone's subjective experiences should be respected. If someone comes up to me and says they saw Big Foot (and there's a gigantic line stretching back throughout the ages of people seeing similar things), I'll take it as face value.

As for your La Llorona thing, again, it all depends on how much support there is for it. If thousands of people have said over history that they saw what you saw, I'm going to have to start to take it more seriously.


1. That doesn't make it true. It is possible for me to inflate my head, and I can say I've achieved that. Doesn't make it true without tangible evidence.

2. Eyewitness accounts need to be taken with a grain of salt because there is such a thing as suggestion. And suggestion isn't evidence of anything.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:24 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
If it was completely made up, there wouldn't be THAT many reported sightings over history.

Definitely not. I mean, no one would ever see a bear or a big cat or any other animal or a shadow in the distance and think it was Bigfoot. People are never wrong about the things they see. Not ever.


they aren't always wrong, the probability of that is just too low

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Postby Hurdegaryp » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:24 pm

Suddenly this thread became comedy gold. There's more than a bit of Schadenfreude involved, though. People who struggle to keep themselves standing in regular reality tend to be more open for frolicking fairytale fanciness. It's sad, really. Behind all those irrational beliefs hides a colossal amount of despair and existential emptiness. But, as I said, Schadenfreude. Keep feeding the merriment, my friends!
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:24 pm

Bezkoshtovnya wrote:
Securitan wrote:ok

Clearly it is undeniable proof that they exist then. I mean, people don't LIE, or misidentify. Psh.

Exactly. No one is ever wrong. No one ever lies. Every fantasy creature is real.
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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:25 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Definitely not. I mean, no one would ever see a bear or a big cat or any other animal or a shadow in the distance and think it was Bigfoot. People are never wrong about the things they see. Not ever.


they aren't always wrong, the probability of that is just too low

This does not equate to it meaning "Oh bigfoot definitely exists, no doubt". Not at all. Like I said, faulty reasoning.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:25 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Definitely not. I mean, no one would ever see a bear or a big cat or any other animal or a shadow in the distance and think it was Bigfoot. People are never wrong about the things they see. Not ever.


they aren't always wrong, the probability of that is just too low

In fact they're never wrong. It's impossible.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:26 pm

Bezkoshtovnya wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
they aren't always wrong, the probability of that is just too low

This does not equate to it meaning "Oh bigfoot definitely exists, no doubt". Not at all. Like I said, faulty reasoning.


it means that it's very very likely that at least one person saw the real thing

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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:26 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Bezkoshtovnya wrote:This does not equate to it meaning "Oh bigfoot definitely exists, no doubt". Not at all. Like I said, faulty reasoning.


it means that it's very very likely that at least one person saw the real thing

Not really.
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