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Who will be the next superpower ?

The United States of America
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29%
China
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30%
The European Union
98
18%
India
57
10%
The Gulf States (Saudi Arabia, United Emirates...)
22
4%
Russia
42
8%
 
Total votes : 544

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Postby Mike the Progressive » Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:58 pm

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Hilarious. I laughed.


It hasn't been doing great lately. Granted, I'm skeptical the UK will withdraw from the EU, but the Eurozone is sort of a joke. And the only country really pulling the rest of Europe along is Germany.

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Postby Normandy and Picardy » Fri Jan 23, 2015 3:05 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:
L Ron Cupboard wrote:
Hilarious. I laughed.


It hasn't been doing great lately. Granted, I'm skeptical the UK will withdraw from the EU, but the Eurozone is sort of a joke. And the only country really pulling the rest of Europe along is Germany.


And even the German economy is beginning to slow and become like the rest of the Eurozone. So, the future doesn't look bright for it.
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Postby Ripoll » Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:49 pm

The American economy is on the road to strong recovery and we are having the highest growth rates since the 1970s, while china is beginning to decline. We still need to invest in our infrastructure, eliminate corporate taxes, and pave the way to higher education but we are by far the world's greatest leader right now and will continue to be the Global leader out to the future.
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Postby North American Empire76 » Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:53 pm

greenland. they will conquer all with their soft penguins, polar bears and low population! :rofl:

oh a more serious note: It won't be africa, that union can't do crap, maybe the middleast if they stop killing each other, Russia and china are big possibilities, China, though, has trouble seeing through Smog and feeding it's massive population. It could be India, it is one of the most adored superpowers.
plus USA will fall eventually, we " took down " the soviets, but I'm pretty sure China wll take over us.
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Postby Sebastianbourg » Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:55 pm

North American Empire76 wrote:greenland. they will conquer all with their soft penguins, polar bears and low population! :rofl:

Denmark stronk, eh?

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Postby The Wolven League » Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:56 pm

Qatar, obviously.



If you couldn't tell, that is a joke.


India might become even more of a superpower than it already is, although it definitely needs to modernize more.
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Postby Vancon » Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:59 pm

USA is in a crippling debt and the people are less then pleased about war.
China has a rising economy (that is said to be the best by 2100) and can do almost whatever it wants, because if no one agrees with them, they simply won't make all the things the less then pleased country needs.
India is in a similar state to that of China, and is said to pass China after it's reign, albeit in a much longer bit of time.
EU is a mess right now, what with both infighting and lack of funds.
Middle-EAST has ISIS. Need I say more?


Long story short, China will be the next superpower, whether or not we want it.
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Postby Ripoll » Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:10 pm

Vancon wrote:USA is in a crippling debt and the people are less then pleased about war.
China has a rising economy (that is said to be the best by 2100) and can do almost whatever it wants, because if no one agrees with them, they simply won't make all the things the less then pleased country needs.
India is in a similar state to that of China, and is said to pass China after it's reign, albeit in a much longer bit of time.
EU is a mess right now, what with both infighting and lack of funds.
Middle-EAST has ISIS. Need I say more?


Long story short, China will be the next superpower, whether or not we want it.
-A Canadian.


That's absolutely ridiculous, China cannot afford to not trade freely. Also the United States has flipped the tables on china, our economy is at the largest growth it's been since the 70s and china is only slowing down.

The United States is now fully almost fully withdrawn from Afghanistan and we are attacking terrorism the right way, by forming strong coalitions of nations and deal with international threats in a more responsible and efficient manner.

I also highly doubt you understand anything about our debt.
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Postby Ripoll » Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:11 pm

North American Empire76 wrote:greenland. they will conquer all with their soft penguins, polar bears and low population! :rofl:

oh a more serious note: It won't be africa, that union can't do crap, maybe the middleast if they stop killing each other, Russia and china are big possibilities, China, though, has trouble seeing through Smog and feeding it's massive population. It could be India, it is one of the most adored superpowers.
plus USA will fall eventually, we " took down " the soviets, but I'm pretty sure China wll take over us.


What? Russia is crumbling and China's growth is slowing. The US outlook looks very strong economically and politically.
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Postby The Conez Imperium » Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:14 pm

Ripoll wrote:
Vancon wrote:USA is in a crippling debt and the people are less then pleased about war.
China has a rising economy (that is said to be the best by 2100) and can do almost whatever it wants, because if no one agrees with them, they simply won't make all the things the less then pleased country needs.
India is in a similar state to that of China, and is said to pass China after it's reign, albeit in a much longer bit of time.
EU is a mess right now, what with both infighting and lack of funds.
Middle-EAST has ISIS. Need I say more?


Long story short, China will be the next superpower, whether or not we want it.
-A Canadian.


That's absolutely ridiculous, China cannot afford to not trade freely. Also the United States has flipped the tables on china, our economy is at the largest growth it's been since the 70s and china is only slowing down.

The United States is now fully almost fully withdrawn from Afghanistan and we are attacking terrorism the right way, by forming strong coalitions of nations and deal with international threats in a more responsible and efficient manner.

I also highly doubt you understand anything about our debt.


The US are friends with Saudi Arabia, one of the most backward civil rights nations in the world. The US state is an affront to the Theocracy of Saudi Arabia. I wouldn't call that a "strong coalitions of nations".
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Postby The Wolven League » Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:14 pm

Ripoll wrote:
Vancon wrote:USA is in a crippling debt and the people are less then pleased about war.
China has a rising economy (that is said to be the best by 2100) and can do almost whatever it wants, because if no one agrees with them, they simply won't make all the things the less then pleased country needs.
India is in a similar state to that of China, and is said to pass China after it's reign, albeit in a much longer bit of time.
EU is a mess right now, what with both infighting and lack of funds.
Middle-EAST has ISIS. Need I say more?


Long story short, China will be the next superpower, whether or not we want it.
-A Canadian.


That's absolutely ridiculous, China cannot afford to not trade freely. Also the United States has flipped the tables on china, our economy is at the largest growth it's been since the 70s and china is only slowing down.

The United States is now fully almost fully withdrawn from Afghanistan and we are attacking terrorism the right way, by forming strong coalitions of nations and deal with international threats in a more responsible and efficient manner.

I also highly doubt you understand anything about our debt.

Except that we are 17 trillion in debt. I would call that crippling
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Postby North American Empire76 » Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:16 pm

Ripoll wrote:
North American Empire76 wrote:greenland. they will conquer all with their soft penguins, polar bears and low population! :rofl:

oh a more serious note: It won't be africa, that union can't do crap, maybe the middleast if they stop killing each other, Russia and china are big possibilities, China, though, has trouble seeing through Smog and feeding it's massive population. It could be India, it is one of the most adored superpowers.
plus USA will fall eventually, we " took down " the soviets, but I'm pretty sure China wll take over us.


What? Russia is crumbling and China's growth is slowing. The US outlook looks very strong economically and politically.

haven't you learned from history, no empire or state has lasted as long as ever. we will fall someday, I It will msot likely be the Asian states to emerge as te next superpower, granted, They'll eveuntaly collapse, but only time will tell, who knows, any nation, even North korea could become a super power! :rofl:
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Postby MERIZoC » Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:18 pm

Can we not do this every quarter year?
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Postby The Wolven League » Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:22 pm

Merizoc wrote:Can we not do this every quarter year?
*sigh*

Sorry, but no. Have a cookie and hop aboard the "I don't want this to happen but let's just go with it" train. Choo-choo...
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Postby Vancon » Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:23 pm

Ripoll wrote:
Vancon wrote:USA is in a crippling debt and the people are less then pleased about war.
China has a rising economy (that is said to be the best by 2100) and can do almost whatever it wants, because if no one agrees with them, they simply won't make all the things the less then pleased country needs.
India is in a similar state to that of China, and is said to pass China after it's reign, albeit in a much longer bit of time.
EU is a mess right now, what with both infighting and lack of funds.
Middle-EAST has ISIS. Need I say more?


Long story short, China will be the next superpower, whether or not we want it.
-A Canadian.


That's absolutely ridiculous, China cannot afford to not trade freely. Also the United States has flipped the tables on china, our economy is at the largest growth it's been since the 70s and china is only slowing down.

The United States is now fully almost fully withdrawn from Afghanistan and we are attacking terrorism the right way, by forming strong coalitions of nations and deal with international threats in a more responsible and efficient manner.

I also highly doubt you understand anything about our debt.


China can't afford?

You're not serious.

American can't afford. America has to do whatever China wants if they don't want to go even further into debt. Look around you. Most of that stuff will be made in China. Them losing USA as a customer wouldn't be a big deal. USA losing China would be massive, since they'd lose almost all of their income via taxes, created by products made in China.

War is a bitch, yes. Americans are leaving Afghanistan, yes. America dealing with terrorists, yes. But is America able to go to war if they so need too? No, not at all. There is too many people who are against war, and the nation is practically ruled by it's people. If the people say no, they won't do it, equal parts due to the politicians not wanting to lose favor and lose their money.

Efficient? Hell. Fucking. No. If they were efficient, we wouldn't even hear about any attacks, since they'd already be resolved.

In terms of American Debt, no I don't understand it, because it is messed up to all hell, what with them being more then 17 trillion dollars in debt, causing taxes to rise, causing less and less people to be able to buy things, causing less people to live and causing the state to have less money, causing the government to ask for more money, which returns un back to the beginning of this endless cycle.

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Postby The Conez Imperium » Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:24 pm

Merizoc wrote:Can we not do this every quarter year?
*sigh*


Better this than. EG. Islam is a dangerous religion. Every Muslim should be monitored.
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Postby Cetacea » Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:24 pm

Arcanda wrote:China - It is becoming a key nation in Asia, however their population (More males than females, and aging population), lack of cultural influence and modernization will hold them back..


You're trying to say that China lacks cultural influence or modernization? WTF? China is already a superpower and Chinese growth has been export lead and its leadership
is already securing supply via international investments and managing a middle-income transition so that domestic spending is increasing. I personally think that the population crisis is overstated and will correct itself, but the household income spread does need to be managed as this is what will stabilize the economy.

India has potential but is less culturally cohesive than China and afaik actually has a worse rural poverty problem to deal with.

Brazil is going to suffer from being too close to the US, although its growth may help to even out the power structures in that hemisphere.

Europe is never going to get enough unity to act as a single Power

and the Gulf States are too dependent on a single resource

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Postby The Wolven League » Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:24 pm

The Conez Imperium wrote:
Merizoc wrote:Can we not do this every quarter year?
*sigh*


Better this than. EG. Islam is a dangerous religion. Every Muslim should be monitored.

Nice troll, dude. Have two cookies

I know you are listing examples, but have a cookie for effort :)
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Postby New Hampshire Republic » Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:24 pm

NORTH KOREA IS ALREADY AND WILL FOREVER BE THE ONLY SUPERPOWER!
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Postby Master Shake » Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:25 pm

The Republic of Kitt wrote:Possibly Brazil? I have no idea.


Brazil is a contender. Once they bulldoze all that rain forest they will have a shit load of real estate...
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Postby Conserative Morality » Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:26 pm

NATO will remain the foremost power in 2020-2050. After that it's a bit unclear, but I suppose my money would be on the MINTs or Brazil or India.

Not really narrowing it down much, I know.
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Postby The Wolven League » Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:27 pm

Master Shake wrote:
The Republic of Kitt wrote:Possibly Brazil? I have no idea.


Brazil is a contender. Once they bulldoze all that rain forest they will have a shit load of real estate...

They'll take all the homeless jaguars and use them to fill in the empty space of politicians.
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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:34 pm

You're all wrong, the only superpower at the moment is the US. If that changes it will be about regional powers. Each regional power also has its own problems from core instability to political infighting, corruption, poverty, economic viability and of course global events.
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Postby Jamjai » Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:43 pm

The EU because its successor of the Roman Empire

Actually, I think either China or India will the next superpower
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