Man at Walmart attacked for carrying gun with permit

[Master Shake]

Wilderness is more dangerous than you think.

And your "solution" doesn't do jackshit.

How would you know? We tried it in my country, and it has worked fine.

Numbers of murders and suicides with guns have halved, and zero massacres have happened since we introduced it.

It obviously does work, only extremist NRA's who think they're government is going to institute the Fourth Reich if they give away there guns try to claim otherwise.

How many people live in your country?

Like 5% of America's population?

We have gone over this... More people equals more of a chance for someone to snap...


We have road rage and other issues your land has no clue about...

[Servinta]

Wilderness is more dangerous than you think.

And your "solution" doesn't do jackshit.

How would you know? We tried it in my country, and it has worked fine.

Numbers of murders and suicides with guns have halved, and zero massacres have happened since we introduced it.

It obviously does work, only extremist NRA's who think they're government is going to institute the Fourth Reich if they give away there guns try to claim otherwise.

What is your country might I ask?

[WestRedMaple]

It was concealed, the person saw him when he was concealing it as he got out of his car, then followed him.

So, where in the US do you live where concealed carry permits aren't issued? Because if it is anywhere other than Washington D.C., you have concealed carry in your state.

I live in an area where almost every business bans such idiocy.

Being prepared to effectively defend oneself is not idiocy.

[Estva]

How would you know? We tried it in my country, and it has worked fine.

Numbers of murders and suicides with guns have halved, and zero massacres have happened since we introduced it.

It obviously does work, only extremist NRA's who think they're government is going to institute the Fourth Reich if they give away there guns try to claim otherwise.

How many people live in your country?

Like 5% of America's population?

We have gone over this... More people equals more of a chance for someone to snap...


We have road rage and other issues your land has no clue about...

Australia was pretty much in an identical situation as us. Less population, but quite a few guns as well. Population density was also similar.

[Prezelly]

How would you know? We tried it in my country, and it has worked fine.

Numbers of murders and suicides with guns have halved, and zero massacres have happened since we introduced it.

It obviously does work, only extremist NRA's who think they're government is going to institute the Fourth Reich if they give away there guns try to claim otherwise.

How many people live in your country?

Like 5% of America's population?

We have gone over this... More people equals more of a chance for someone to snap...


We have road rage and other issues your land has no clue about...

As well as guns ingrained into our society. You cant just tell the millions of people with guns that they just cant anymore. There would be rebellion after rebellion

[-The Unified Earth Governments-]

He was carrying a gun. He's a dangerous man and probably a racist conservative asshole.

Despite having no criminal record or recorded usage of his firearm toward a person? The second is an "all X are Y" style flamebait.

No its not.

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

Wilderness is more dangerous than you think.

And your "solution" doesn't do jackshit.

How would you know? We tried it in my country, and it has worked fine.

Numbers of murders and suicides with guns have halved, and zero massacres have happened since we introduced it.

It obviously does work, only extremist NRA's who think they're government is going to institute the Fourth Reich if they give away there guns try to claim otherwise.

We introduced it into our country, and that didn't stop multiple drug cartels getting their hands on guns better than that of our army.

The number of murders has gone up, almost to the point where we get listed on one of the top 5 countries with the most murders collectively.

No, it doesn't.

[Estva]

I live in an area where almost every business bans such idiocy.

Being prepared to effectively defend oneself is not idiocy.

And there are ways to do that without declaring your ability to become a mass murderer ins seconds.

[Cedoria]

If we ban guns, only the people who are mass murderers will have them. They will get them off the black market, and decent, law abiding citizens will have no defense.

No, police and law enforcement will have them, so decent law-abiding citizens will be able to use the proper channels to protect themselves.

And the evidence from gun control in other countries doesn't bear out your argument that "only mass murderers will have them"

Face it, your Second Amendment should be fixed, there is no need for it in today's society in the US, and it is time for it too be changed.

[Master Shake]

How many people live in your country?

Like 5% of America's population?

We have gone over this... More people equals more of a chance for someone to snap...


We have road rage and other issues your land has no clue about...

Australia was pretty much in an identical situation as us. Less population, but quite a few guns as well. Population density was also similar.

Yeah, but a lot of the guns are probably out in the desert/bush where hunters live.

[WestRedMaple]

Not idiocy.

Except it is, and the only reason you support it in the first place was because of your deluded Marxist-Leninist fantasies, as you said yourself.

Obviously it is not. You may choose to make yourself and those you care about easier targets, but that doesn't magically make other people idiots for making a different choice

[Tyrinth]

Being prepared to effectively defend oneself is not idiocy.

And there are ways to do that without declaring your ability to become a mass murderer ins seconds.

Do tell.

[United Marxist Nations]

Please, explain why it is. Also, knock-off the flamebaiting.

Well I mean my statement is true, you said this yourself, multiple times, in multiple threads. You honestly believe it will help some "proletarian revolution".

There is no real justifiable reason to take your gun everywhere, and have the potential to cause many incidents turn lethal. Especially with the complete lack of regulation in many areas, including the bill floating around in Texas attempting to authorize the ownership of firearms without any license whatsoever.

The flamebaiting was the "deluded... fantasies" part.

Given where shootings have taken place, I myself would feel more comfortable carrying a firearm with me.

[Gauthier]

This is WalMart, where a black man holding a toy rifle is gunned down without hesitation. I still say this guy is white.

[Cedoria]

How would you know? We tried it in my country, and it has worked fine.

Numbers of murders and suicides with guns have halved, and zero massacres have happened since we introduced it.

It obviously does work, only extremist NRA's who think they're government is going to institute the Fourth Reich if they give away there guns try to claim otherwise.

We introduced it into our country, and that didn't stop multiple drug cartels getting their hands on guns better than that of our army.

The number of murders has gone up, almost to the point where we get listed on one of the top 5 countries with the most murders collectively.

No, it doesn't.

Well, having a lack of corruption and being able to allocate government resources more efficiently would certainly make it work better too.

Maybe the murder rate has gone up, but how many of those murders have been commited with a gun? Has that rate gone up or down?

[-The Unified Earth Governments-]

I like how some people are blaming the tackler...

[Tyrinth]

If we ban guns, only the people who are mass murderers will have them. They will get them off the black market, and decent, law abiding citizens will have no defense.

No, police and law enforcement will have them, so decent law-abiding citizens will be able to use the proper channels to protect themselves.

And the evidence from gun control in other countries doesn't bear out your argument that "only mass murderers will have them"

Face it, your Second Amendment should be fixed, there is no need for it in today's society in the US, and it is time for it too be changed.

Average police response is what...? 9-12 minutes?

Be sure to call 'em if anyone ever attempts to stab you. I'm sure they'll defend you.

Though the courts have ruled that they do not have a duty to do so.

[Master Shake]

We introduced it into our country, and that didn't stop multiple drug cartels getting their hands on guns better than that of our army.

The number of murders has gone up, almost to the point where we get listed on one of the top 5 countries with the most murders collectively.

No, it doesn't.

Well, having a lack of corruption and being able to allocate government resources more efficiently would certainly make it work better too.

Maybe the murder rate has gone up, but how many of those murders have been commited with a gun? Has that rate gone up or down?

What nation do you live in?

[Gun Manufacturers]

Please, explain why it is. Also, knock-off the flamebaiting.

Well I mean my statement is true, you said this yourself, multiple times, in multiple threads. You honestly believe it will help some "proletarian revolution".

There is no real justifiable reason to take your gun everywhere, and have the potential to cause many incidents turn lethal. Especially with the complete lack of regulation in many areas, including the bill floating around in Texas attempting to authorize the ownership of firearms without any license whatsoever.

The bill in Texas would mean that the carry situation would be similar to Vermont, which doesn't issue permits at all (even for the purpose of reciprocity with other states).

[Second Blazing]

including the bill floating around in Texas attempting to authorize the ownership of firearms without any license whatsoever.

You do realize you do not need a license whatsoever to buy a gun in every state in the country, as long as its not a handgun, right? I can literally just walk into the gun local gun shop, write a check and walk out with an armory after only a few forms to fill out per gun.

[Spoder]

That's all for your daily serving of something vaguely resembling the Socratic Method.

Alright.

So I really don't see a reason for why this man's assailant should not be tried for assault and battery.

[Estva]

Well I mean my statement is true, you said this yourself, multiple times, in multiple threads. You honestly believe it will help some "proletarian revolution".

There is no real justifiable reason to take your gun everywhere, and have the potential to cause many incidents turn lethal. Especially with the complete lack of regulation in many areas, including the bill floating around in Texas attempting to authorize the ownership of firearms without any license whatsoever.

The flamebaiting was the "deluded... fantasies" part.

Given where shootings have taken place, I myself would feel more comfortable carrying a firearm with me.

Well, it is a deluded fantasy. I am not calling you a fool but you hold a deluded fantasy.

And I would feel far less comfortable with you possessing one in my presence unless we were friends.

[United Marxist Nations]

Despite having no criminal record or recorded usage of his firearm toward a person? The second is an "all X are Y" style flamebait.

No its not.

Yes it is; it is the assumption that, because he has a concealed carry permit, he must be a "racist conservative asshole".

[Tyrinth]

We introduced it into our country, and that didn't stop multiple drug cartels getting their hands on guns better than that of our army.

The number of murders has gone up, almost to the point where we get listed on one of the top 5 countries with the most murders collectively.

No, it doesn't.

Well, having a lack of corruption and being able to allocate government resources more efficiently would certainly make it work better too.

Maybe the murder rate has gone up, but how many of those murders have been commited with a gun? Has that rate gone up or down?

And why is such a statistic relevant?

[Cedoria]

How many people live in your country?

Like 5% of America's population?

We have gone over this... More people equals more of a chance for someone to snap...


We have road rage and other issues your land has no clue about...

Australia was pretty much in an identical situation as us. Less population, but quite a few guns as well. Population density was also similar.

And Australia has plenty of road rage.

We sorted our gun control, America can too, just a few loony's clinging to the past who are stopping them.