Judge orders father go to church

by **Olthar** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:46 pm

Storica wrote:When did Britain become 'Murica'?

Thought it was an American judge at first, sterotyping in action.
Sorry America.

Don't worry. I'm an American, and I thought the same thing.

by **Benuty** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:50 pm

Seems rather insulting to the persons personal preference?

On that note, since when is a Judge ordering someone to a religious institution appropriate?

by **MERIZoC** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:52 pm

Benuty wrote:Seems rather insulting to the persons personal preference?

On that note, since when is a Judge ordering someone to a religious institution appropriate?

Since Spain, circa 1500.

by **Greater Mackonia** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:53 pm

The Judge in question should be assassinated.

by **Ethel mermania** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:54 pm

The kids going to church is a fight between the parents. If the mother did not request it, it would not be in the settlement. After the kids are 18 the requirement will be dropped.

by **Fartsniffage** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:54 pm

We stop burning Catholics for a few centuries and look what happens.

Lizzy the First would be so disappointed.

by **Fartsniffage** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:55 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:The kids going to church is a fight between the parents. If the mother did not request it, it would not be in the settlement. After the kids are 18 the requirement will be dropped.

From the OP.

Steve, a 51-year-old psychologist, said: “It’s all very bizarre. This aspect of the contact order was not requested by the other side in the case.

by **Olthar** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:56 pm

Greater Mackonia wrote:The Judge in question should be assassinated.

What?

by **Neutraligon** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:56 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:The kids going to church is a fight between the parents. If the mother did not request it, it would not be in the settlement. After the kids are 18 the requirement will be dropped.

It says very specifically in the article that the mother did not request it and that it was not in the original settlement; apparently the judge tacked it on.

by **Ethel mermania** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:56 pm

Greater Mackonia wrote:The Judge in question should be assassinated.

Really?
People advocating assassination should be arrested, tried and shot for advoacting the death of others without due process.

by **The Princes of the Universe** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:56 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:The kids going to church is a fight between the parents. If the mother did not request it, it would not be in the settlement. After the kids are 18 the requirement will be dropped.

Such a provision has no legitimate place in any such settlement.

by **The Huskar Social Union** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:56 pm

Merizoc wrote:Blatant abuse of power.

Seconded. This is absolute bullshit, he should not be forced to take them to church if he does not practice the faith of said church, and he definitely should not be facing jail time if he refuses to do so.

by **Ethel mermania** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:58 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:The kids going to church is a fight between the parents. If the mother did not request it, it would not be in the settlement. After the kids are 18 the requirement will be dropped.

From the OP.

Steve, a 51-year-old psychologist, said: “It’s all very bizarre. This aspect of the contact order was not requested by the other side in the case.

Upon reread, I see it, then it's weird and Steve is right. I would like to hear from the ex wife, but if accurate the judge is wrong.

by **Greater Mackonia** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:03 pm

Olthar wrote:
Greater Mackonia wrote:The Judge in question should be assassinated.

What?

It is not like we can depend upon the legal processes in this country to defend free thought.

by **Kainesia** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:03 pm

Since the judge is a state employee, shouldn't he be pointing him towards the heretics at the CofE? :eyebrow:

by **Olthar** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:05 pm

Greater Mackonia wrote:
Olthar wrote:What?

It is not like we can depend upon the legal processes in this country to defend free thought.

>_>

by **Old Tyrannia** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:06 pm

I thought that Catholics were required to raise their children in the Catholic faith, and non-Catholics who married Catholics were required to sign an agreement stating that any children they had would likewise be brought up in the faith? If the father signed such an agreement, he should be held to it. If he did not, then the judge's decision makes little sense.

by **Farnhamia** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:40 pm

Greater Mackonia wrote:The Judge in question should be assassinated.

You're fond of wishing death on people, I see. That's what your last warning was for. Just so you know we're serious when we say that kind of behavior is unacceptable, *** 1 day ban for trolling by wishing death ***.

by **Metropolitan Leeds** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:49 pm

Why is (not so) Great Britain and NI officially a Church of England theocratic state and yet it claims to be a parliamentary democracy?

by **Fartsniffage** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:51 pm

Metropolitan Leeds wrote:Northern Ireland is an amazingly accurate medieval re-enactment area.

What does that have to do with this?

by **Metropolitan Leeds** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:54 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Metropolitan Leeds wrote:Northern Ireland is an amazingly accurate medieval re-enactment area.

What does that have to do with this?

Edited it because it was actually in the Midlands, not NI.
The entirety of Britain is still ruled (head of state) by a theocratic royal dictator with powers "granted from God" and also, an oath to her must be pledged in order to be an MP.

by **Fralinia** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:12 pm

I somehow made it through 2/3's of that article before realizing that this took place in Derbyshire, not the American South.

Honestly England, you're supposed to be better than this. Leave the stupid to the professionals.

by **-The Unified Earth Governments-** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:42 pm

Greater Mackonia wrote:The Judge in question should be assassinated.

Whoa...thats a bit much?

Damn, the guys a massive cunt but still.

by **Mike the Progressive** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:45 pm

Elsa the Snow Queen wrote:Judges force churches to marry gay couples. Judges force non-believers to attend church. Seems to cancel each other out

When did a judge force a church to marry a gay couple?

by **Blasted Craigs** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:49 pm

Bezkoshtovnya wrote:
Elsa the Snow Queen wrote:Judges force churches to marry gay couples. Judges force non-believers to attend church. Seems to cancel each other out

No it does not, because no judge has forced a church to marry a homosexual couple. Unless you'd like to source an instance of such.

Exactly.
This is a clear and devious lie the conservative right leadership put out to get religious moderates up in arms. No church is required by law to marry anyone! If they think blacks and whites should not marry, they can be as racist as they want, and refuse to administer the ceremony! This is why one must still go to a court and get the marriage "finalized"! They are not married in church, they have a "pre marriage ceremony" as far as the law is concerned.

When is the last time two Muslims was married by a Baptist minister? Or an Imam married two Christians? Why not? Because the law does not force anyone to provide this service. So no, there has never, in American law, ever been a case where a practitioner of any religion was forced to provide a marriage ceremony to anyone they did not want to. It has always been, in our countries history, the case that preachers only provide this ceremony to people they want to. The law only says they are allowed, by law, to get married by a judge.

And I am sorry, when you work as a representative of a secular body such as the government (such as a judge), your beliefs be damned, you provide the services as required by your position. Otherwise, do you really want a judge that views the testimony of women as not permissible in court due to religious beliefs? (And no, I do not necessarily refer to the Qur'an. Look in the Bible, and see the same self centered bullshit.)

Secular is secular for a damn good reason.

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