Should muslims be treated equally?

[Alyakia]

oh christ this is the most ridiculous thread. you're probably just trolling, but fuck it i'm going to put as much effort into this as i can be arsed with.

1) literally every crime could be prevented if we took away everyones rights. is there a reason you only care about the victims of terror attacks?
2) you're aware that muslims weren't always the most likely, right? check out the list of FBI terrorists incidents from 1970 to now. notice the recurring names and how most of them aren't muslim.
3) did i mention this is pretty much guaranteed to cause more terrorist attacks and cause more people to radicalize? it's like you want the terrorists to win. or at least you're handing a ridiculously easy moral and PR victory. it's like, did you actually think about this, or do you just not like muslims?
4) speaking of which, do you know which organization committed the single largest infiltration of the united states government? ever? more than the nazis? more than the soviets? thousands of agents in30+ countries? all so they could cover up their crimes. they even have their own little private paramilitary navy. why the fuck aren't you going after them, right now? do you even know about this?

"people who sacrifice their liberty for security deserve neither" - thomas "t.j." jefferson on why this is a really bad idea

1. Why take away rights from more people than we need to?
2. Look at the current FBI most wanted list, almost nothing but muslims.
3. This will still prevent terrorist attacks from being successful.

1) there are billions of muslims. very few of them will commit terror. yet, you are fine with taking away their rights. there are hundreds of millions of americans. few of them will rape or murder. yet, they deserve to keep their rights? you're either ok with taking away the rights of hundred of millions to prevent the crimes of the few, or you aren't. so do people just matter less when a non-muslim kills them or what?
2) http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten - y'all sure about that?
3) why? what happens if in 20 years time we're back to right-wing militias committing most terrorist attacks? do we take away your rights? do you think that muslims will just go "yeah i have done nothing wrong but someone from a completely different sect did take away my rights no biggie"?
4) it was scientology, incase you were wondering. why shouldn't we take away their rights after they committed the largest infiltration of the united states government in human history? give me something to convince me you don't just hate muslims.

[Untaroicht]

OKC offended me. (feel free to surprise me by actually knowing what i'm referring to without looking it up)

Which one killed more people? Which one was actually influenced by religion?

If you wanna get technical, the Oklahoma City Bombers had connections to groups that promote Odinism like the ARA (aryan republican army), which (at least in america) is a quirky and hatable mix of white supremacist and neo-pagan ideologies stewed into a minor religion.

[Acro]

I am a Muslim, I have spoken out through my school, through the newspaper, through multiple online sources against Islamic extremism, I have worked with people of all faiths to create an atmosphere of peace and unity. I organized a protest against the attacks on Charlie, I have organized a group that protests against ISIS and I have raised 2 thousand for food and water for displaced people in Iraq. I Can not believe the disgusting acts your are advocating, if anyone should have their rights restricted it is people such as yourself that seem content to group all muslims under the actions of a few. If that is okay than excuse me while I group all Christians under the same banner as Hitler and the KKK.

[Burleson 2]

Actually... they do....

Ann Coulter...the hell kind of proof is that?

If I can't cite conservative pundits, I guess it's only fair that you're not allowed to cite liberal activists.

[Liberty and Linguistics]

No. People should be treated as unequally as possible, with regards to religion, race, creed, gender, and economic status. It's the only way to ensure a happy society.

This is some of the worst satire I have ever read. Either that, or you are actually being serious.

It's deadpan sarcasm, not bad satire.

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

This is some of the worst satire I have ever read. Either that, or you are actually being serious.

It's deadpan sarcasm, not bad satire.

Then it just not great.

[Dakini]

9/11 is not an excuse to hate the Islamic faith. Do you seriously believe that most Muslims agree with Al-Qaeda? Fuck no.

Actually... they do....

You really have a problem with sources, don't you? First you take an Onion article and use it as a basis to start a thread and then you run with a website run by people who are obviously racist pieces of shit to support your "point".

Why this thread made it beyond the first page is beyond me.

[Liberty and Linguistics]

Ann Coulter...the hell kind of proof is that?

If I can't cite conservative pundits, I guess it's only fair that you're not allowed to cite liberal activists.

Ann Coulter is not a conservative. She is not a conservative because I doubt that ideologies exist on the planet she lives on.

[MERIZoC]

Everything seems to come back to primitivism with you.

Benuty confirmed closet primitivist.

That and lobotomy.

Benuty confirmed lobotomist.

[Benuty]

Everything seems to come back to primitivism with you.

Benuty confirmed closet primitivist.

That and lobotomy.

It doesn't help when you are born in a place that still lobotomizes people to this day.

That was fun, and all, but we have a thread to get back to.

[Anollasia]

I am a Muslim, I have spoken out through my school, through the newspaper, through multiple online sources against Islamic extremism, I have worked with people of all faiths to create an atmosphere of peace and unity. I organized a protest against the attacks on Charlie, I have organized a group that protests against ISIS and I have raised 2 thousand for food and water for displaced people in Iraq. I Can not believe the disgusting acts your are advocating, if anyone should have their rights restricted it is people such as yourself that seem content to group all muslims under the actions of a few. If that is okay than excuse me while I group all Christians under the same banner as Hitler and the KKK.

I agree.

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

Ann Coulter...the hell kind of proof is that?

If I can't cite conservative pundits, I guess it's only fair that you're not allowed to cite liberal activists.

Citing silliness is not proof. Citing racism is not proof.

[Burleson 2]

OKC offended me. (feel free to surprise me by actually knowing what i'm referring to without looking it up)

I don't like OKComrade either, but I guess socialists need to date too. No reason to be offended.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

Well, the Spanish Inquisition offended me.

The fact that atheism exists offends me.

Get over it. Are we to start limiting rights to Atheists now?

[MERIZoC]

It's deadpan sarcasm, not bad satire.

Then it just not great.

You're all so mean to poor Merizoc.

[Farnhamia]

oh christ this is the most ridiculous thread. you're probably just trolling, but fuck it i'm going to put as much effort into this as i can be arsed with.

1) literally every crime could be prevented if we took away everyones rights. is there a reason you only care about the victims of terror attacks?
2) you're aware that muslims weren't always the most likely, right? check out the list of FBI terrorists incidents from 1970 to now. notice the recurring names and how most of them aren't muslim.
3) did i mention this is pretty much guaranteed to cause more terrorist attacks and cause more people to radicalize? it's like you want the terrorists to win. or at least you're handing a ridiculously easy moral and PR victory. it's like, did you actually think about this, or do you just not like muslims?
4) speaking of which, do you know which organization committed the single largest infiltration of the united states government? ever? more than the nazis? more than the soviets? thousands of agents in30+ countries? all so they could cover up their crimes. they even have their own little private paramilitary navy. why the fuck aren't you going after them, right now? do you even know about this?

"people who sacrifice their liberty for security deserve neither" - thomas "t.j." jefferson on why this is a really bad idea

1. Why take away rights from more people than we need to?
2. Look at the current FBI most wanted list, almost nothing but muslims.
3. This will still prevent terrorist attacks from being successful.

Why take any rights from anyone? As pointed out above, though the quote was mangled and misattributed, "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Doctor Franklin said that in 1755 and it remains true today. Doing what you propose hands the terrorists the victory they cannot achieve by force. It makes us into the Great Satan they claim we are. No, sir, not in my country.

[Burleson 2]

For the record, I'm not calling for the criminalization of practicing islam, I'm calling for stricter security restrictions against muslims. Let's make that clear.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

Ann Coulter...the hell kind of proof is that?

If I can't cite conservative pundits, I guess it's only fair that you're not allowed to cite liberal activists.

The fact she is conservative is not the issue. The fact that everything she spews is unsubstantiated bullshit is the issue.

[Lost heros]

The fact that atheism exists offends me.

Get over it. Are we to start limiting rights to Atheists now?

I think we should limit rights to everyone but Burleson

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

OKC offended me. (feel free to surprise me by actually knowing what i'm referring to without looking it up)

I don't like OKComrade either, but I guess socialists need to date too. No reason to be offended.

Everyone needs to date.

Then it just not great.

You're all so mean to poor Merizoc.

But you influenced me. How can you hate me?

[MERIZoC]

For the record, I'm not calling for the criminalization of practicing islam, I'm calling for stricter security restrictions against muslims. Let's make that clear.

Because…..ebul Muslamists?

[Bezkoshtovnya]

For the record, I'm not calling for the criminalization of practicing islam, I'm calling for stricter security restrictions against muslims. Let's make that clear.

Because that is much better.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Well, the Spanish Inquisition offended me.

The fact that atheism exists offends me.

You have the right to be offended.

I have the right to not give a shit about that.

I have the right to be offended by this thread's existence.

You have the right to not give a shit about that.

Ain't America wonderful?

[Dakini]

...oops, misread the url.

[Liberty and Linguistics]

For the record, I'm not calling for the criminalization of practicing islam, I'm calling for stricter security restrictions against muslims. Let's make that clear.

Define "stricter security restrictions."

And that contradicts what you've previously said which is, "I support the freedom to be Christian, not freedom of religion."