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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:14 am

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I wish they'd make a black and pink one myself.


Ugh...women :roll: :p
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:15 am

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Postby Ithqington » Tue Oct 13, 2015 1:11 pm

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Ithqington wrote:Don't worry, I always think i am straight but it feel like my Sexuality is mixed

Don't think when it comes to sexuality, do what you feel is right.

Do you think political view have anything do with sexuality?

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Oct 13, 2015 1:17 pm

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Postby Renewed Imperial Germany » Tue Oct 13, 2015 3:39 pm

Ugh. Why must transphobia be so common >.<
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Oct 13, 2015 3:40 pm

Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:Ugh. Why must transphobia be so common >.<


Because as much as we as a species like to say we are rational and egalitarian, most people really aren't.
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Postby Arcturus Novus » Tue Oct 13, 2015 3:41 pm

Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:Ugh. Why must transphobia be so common >.<

Because of cisnormativity.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Tue Oct 13, 2015 3:42 pm

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Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:Ugh. Why must transphobia be so common >.<

Because of cisnormativity.

Which will exist as long as cisgender is the majority. I believe transphobia will be a factor in society forever.
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Postby Italios » Tue Oct 13, 2015 3:44 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Arcturus Novus wrote:Because of cisnormativity.

Which will exist as long as cisgender is the majority. I believe transphobia will be a factor in society forever.

The sad truth. You don't see trans people prejudiced against cis. We can only hope that you are wrong, Marisa.
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Postby Arcturus Novus » Tue Oct 13, 2015 3:44 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Arcturus Novus wrote:Because of cisnormativity.

Which will exist as long as cisgender is the majority. I believe transphobia will be a factor in society forever.

I'm sad to say that you're probably right.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Tue Oct 13, 2015 3:44 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:I wish they'd make a black and pink one myself.


Ugh...women :roll: :p

It's more attractive than gray and pink or white and black to me.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Oct 13, 2015 3:46 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Arcturus Novus wrote:Because of cisnormativity.

Which will exist as long as cisgender is the majority. I believe transphobia will be a factor in society forever.


Honestly, and don't take this wrong, but transgender people aren't common. You're not rare either, but you're not a majority either.

Anyways, as a cisgender woman, I think we need to make society more accepting of the person, and less focused on dangly bits.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Tue Oct 13, 2015 3:48 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:Which will exist as long as cisgender is the majority. I believe transphobia will be a factor in society forever.


Honestly, and don't take this wrong, but transgender people aren't common. You're not rare either, but you're not a majority either.

Anyways, as a cisgender woman, I think we need to make society more accepting of the person, and less focused on dangly bits.

People will never get past the dangly bits... it's like the fact that racism still exists. Why? Because people have different skin pigments. Society may become friendlier, but there will always be transphobes and racists to rue the day.
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Postby Italios » Tue Oct 13, 2015 3:49 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Honestly, and don't take this wrong, but transgender people aren't common. You're not rare either, but you're not a majority either.

Anyways, as a cisgender woman, I think we need to make society more accepting of the person, and less focused on dangly bits.

People will never get past the dangly bits... it's like the fact that racism still exists. Why? Because people have different skin pigments. Society may become friendlier, but there will always be transphobes and racists to rue the day.

Sure, people may have different pigments in their skin, but unlike racism, sexism, transphobia and homophobia, we cannot stop nor prevent it.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Oct 13, 2015 3:49 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Honestly, and don't take this wrong, but transgender people aren't common. You're not rare either, but you're not a majority either.

Anyways, as a cisgender woman, I think we need to make society more accepting of the person, and less focused on dangly bits.

People will never get past the dangly bits... it's like the fact that racism still exists. Why? Because people have different skin pigments. Society may become friendlier, but there will always be transphobes and racists to rue the day.


I hope that racism and transphobia become things of the past. I really do.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Tue Oct 13, 2015 3:52 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:People will never get past the dangly bits... it's like the fact that racism still exists. Why? Because people have different skin pigments. Society may become friendlier, but there will always be transphobes and racists to rue the day.


I hope that racism and transphobia become things of the past. I really do.

I hope the same, but I know humanity is far too petty to move beyond such minute differences. We have people killing each other over what sect of Islam they're a part of.
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Postby Yootxtlalkaan » Tue Oct 13, 2015 4:15 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Honestly, and don't take this wrong, but transgender people aren't common. You're not rare either, but you're not a majority either.

Anyways, as a cisgender woman, I think we need to make society more accepting of the person, and less focused on dangly bits.

People will never get past the dangly bits... it's like the fact that racism still exists. Why? Because people have different skin pigments. Society may become friendlier, but there will always be transphobes and racists to rue the day.


i'm optimistic tbh
anti-irish racism (among others) used to be incredibly common and is now virtually gone (in the u.s. at least)
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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Tue Oct 13, 2015 4:18 pm

Italios wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:Which will exist as long as cisgender is the majority. I believe transphobia will be a factor in society forever.

The sad truth. You don't see trans people prejudiced against cis. We can only hope that you are wrong, Marisa.

Some transgender people do hold grudges against cis people but at a more minuscule amount, though a an amount still; however the bigger picture is that so long as one thing is the majority, there will always be a phobia, to which I disagree with.
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Tue Oct 13, 2015 4:42 pm

I actually don't shave my arms. I don't think I have a whole lot more arm hair than my mother (although it is darker -- something that, I believe, may change with HRT), so I don't tend to worry about it.

Bralia wrote:And now, being more curious, how meticulous are you? How long do you spend on that area?

Face: 5 to 20 minutes, depending on how much time I have and how long it's been since I last shaved. Like, if I don't have any time constraints and the hair's pretty visible, I'll spend more time trying to make it all disappear; but if I'm getting ready in the morning and I shaved in the shower the night before (which is what I usually do), I might just wet the razor and go over the more problematic parts once or twice.
Armpits: A minute or two max.
Chest: A minute or two max.
Legs: Depends on how long it's been since my last shave, but since I started doing it regularly, 10-20 minutes.
Nether regions: 2-5 minutes, depending on how meticulous I want to be.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Tue Oct 13, 2015 4:55 pm

Bralia wrote:Appreciate all of the answers! I was wondering whether I fit the average frequency when shaving legs and it looks like I'm right there with everyone else at once or twice a week. And wow to everyone who shaves parts of themselves daily. That must be a seriously annoying amount of work. And now, being more curious, how meticulous are you? How long do you spend on that area?

I think I go 3 - 5 days for my own more commonly shaven places and it take me about 10 - 15 minutes to shave nether regions (dull razor during shower), 30 - 45 minutes to shave legs (sharp razor in bathtub with occasion breaks in shaving to spray myself off with shower) and 30 - 45 minutes on my face, too (electric razor first, cheap and sharp razor follow-up). I can get ridiculously meticulous about my face. Kind of annoying, my face is. I've been tempted to shave arms, pits and my chest but by god, I already spend a ridiculous amount of time shaving. I honestly don't know what to do about it all, I'd like it all to be gone but it's sooooo muuuuch woooork.

The level of precision is about 5 minutes for the arms by electric and legs take 15 as I have to contort to reach some areas. I go after extreme precision of shearing the hairs. Face is fairly quick... around 5 to 10. Nether regions, a minute or two as I just remove the dense hair above the nether regions. Chest? Fairly quick.
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Postby Grenartia » Tue Oct 13, 2015 7:27 pm

The Alexanderians wrote:So I have a question...I shaved in an "alternative" place to try and better understand at least one aspect of being trans (even if it's extremely small, I've done other stuff like asking my parents what they'd do if I was trans). Well anyway it now stings...any suggestions on getting that to stop?

In other news my legs feel amazing


:hug: Thank you, you amazing ally, you.

Not sure about the stinging. Did you dry shave them?
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Postby Grenartia » Tue Oct 13, 2015 7:30 pm

Bralia wrote:A question for shavers of any gender: How frequently do you lot shave?


I used to shave (everywhere appropriate to shave) at least twice a week, and face daily. Ever since I moved back down here, I've kept up the face shaving, but only shaved my chest every week, and certain personal places monthly.
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Postby Grenartia » Tue Oct 13, 2015 7:32 pm

Nature-Spirits wrote:
Bralia wrote:A question for shavers of any gender: How frequently do you lot shave?

Face: Every day, usually. I take a break to let my skin recover on days when I don't have to deal with people and can just stay indoors, though (i.e. one or two days on the weekend, sick days, days off).
Armpits: Maybe once or twice a week.
Chest: Every two or three days, usually.
Legs: Every few days to once a week.
Nether regions: Every few days.


This would be my ideal schedule. Except, I'd also have to add my arms (especially since my upper arms look like I've got a thin forest of pubes growing out of them).
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Oct 13, 2015 7:33 pm

Bralia wrote:A question for shavers of any gender: How frequently do you lot shave?


I do it twice a week. Your mileage may vary, depending on how much hair you have, how fast it grows and how thick it is.
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Postby Grenartia » Tue Oct 13, 2015 7:38 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Arcturus Novus wrote:Because of cisnormativity.

Which will exist as long as cisgender is the majority. I believe transphobia will be a factor in society forever.


And I refuse to believe that.

I believe that cisnormativity will go the same way that heteronormativity is going.
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