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Postby Pandeeria » Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:06 pm

Nuwe Suid Afrika wrote:
Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:I think we could probably start a colony on the moon and Mars if we used everyone's

We could power interstellar colonies if we had reactors that ran on the whining of the LGBT community.


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Postby United Marxist Nations » Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:06 pm

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United Marxist Nations wrote:Many countries do actually have rape-by-omission laws, it is important to be honest with someone you intend to have sex with; e.g. in Israel, if an Arab pretends to be Jewish to have sex with a woman, it is considered rape.

That's a horrendous law.

Not really, it's rape-by-deception. Most countries have laws recognizing it as such. In this country, it has been considered rape since 1872.
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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:07 pm

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Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:Except they're really not.

Except they really are. They're facial structures are off. Some women have faces like that, and they are just as unattractive.

I would beg on my knees for the chance to kiss one of those women, they are outlandishly gorgeous and way more feminine than a lot of girls I know who were born with vaginas.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:07 pm

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:
Nuwe Suid Afrika wrote:We could power interstellar colonies if we had reactors that ran on the whining of the LGBT community.



It's quite obvious that they're both men, just look at their faces. Besides, all you have to do is wait for a voice crack anyways and realize that your 20 year old 'boo' sounds like a 40 year old man.

How about this one?

Gotta admit on that one, 9/10, would def bang
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Postby Esternial » Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:07 pm

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:
Nuwe Suid Afrika wrote:We could power interstellar colonies if we had reactors that ran on the whining of the LGBT community.



It's quite obvious that they're both men, just look at their faces. Besides, all you have to do is wait for a voice crack anyways and realize that your 20 year old 'boo' sounds like a 40 year old man.

How about this one?

This "game" isn't going to bear any results, SAT.

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Postby Nuwe Suid Afrika » Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:07 pm

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:How about this one?

He/She/They/It just looks really ugly


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Postby Krieg-Deathworld » Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:07 pm

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:
Nuwe Suid Afrika wrote:We could power interstellar colonies if we had reactors that ran on the whining of the LGBT community.



It's quite obvious that they're both men, just look at their faces. Besides, all you have to do is wait for a voice crack anyways and realize that your 20 year old 'boo' sounds like a 40 year old man.

How about this one?

She is not recognizably trans, but she is off enough to keep me from approaching her.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:07 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Merizoc wrote:That's a horrendous law.

Not really, it's rape-by-deception. Most countries have laws recognizing it as such. In this country, it has been considered rape since 1872.


Way to dilute the meaning and severity of rape as a term :eyebrow: .
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:07 pm

Esternial wrote:
Skappola wrote:Yeah, not everyone reacts to this situation like you want them to. The reality is that a majority or large minority will act with disgust upon finding out the person is not a woman or not a man.

Which is an irrational response fuelled by their own insecurities. Being able to deal with it and think rationally is the thing that would save you from being a sad little shell of man after that experience.


Pretty much.
If I was in their position with their preferences i'd feel painfully embaressed, not angry, and really sorry for the trans person because i'm going to have to explain that actually, i'm backing out. Ooops, if you wanna go uh, relieve yourself I understand. Sorry!
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:08 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Merizoc wrote:That's a horrendous law.

Not really, it's rape-by-deception. Most countries have laws recognizing it as such. In this country, it has been considered rape since 1872.

Personally, if I'm attracted to him and he's attracted to me, I wouldn't give a shit whether my sexual partner is Jewish or Muslim.
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Postby Saiwania » Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:08 pm

The vast majority of people are still cisgender and can fall under the words "him" or "her." I must say, I'm so grateful for that. If the majority of people were transgender or had confused gender identities, I think it would be absolute chaos.
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Postby Krieg-Deathworld » Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:08 pm

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:
Krieg-Deathworld wrote:Except they really are. They're facial structures are off. Some women have faces like that, and they are just as unattractive.

I would beg on my knees for the chance to kiss one of those women, they are outlandishly gorgeous and way more feminine than a lot of girls I know who were born with vaginas.

Really? I suppose it's just a matter of taste I suppose. I don't like my women to look masculine.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:08 pm

Saiwania wrote:The vast majority of people are still cisgender and can fall under the words "him" or "her." I must say, I'm so grateful for that. If the majority of people were transgender or had confused gender identities, I think it would be absolute chaos.


What's wrong with absolute chaos? It has an order all of its own, eventually.
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Postby MERIZoC » Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:09 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Merizoc wrote:That's a horrendous law.

Not really, it's rape-by-deception. Most countries have laws recognizing it as such. In this country, it has been considered rape since 1872.

Specifically that one, was what I was referring to. Why it's horrendous, though, is off topic.

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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:09 pm

Krieg-Deathworld wrote:
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:How about this one?

She is not recognizably trans, but she is off enough to keep me from approaching her.
Nuwe Suid Afrika wrote:
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:How about this one?

He/She/They/It just looks really ugly


That's Alessandra Ambrosio, one of the best models on earth. She was born with a vagina.
Here's the hint: A lot of the time, there IS NO indication that she ever had male genitalia. She looks like a woman, and all women look different.
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Postby Lakimina » Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:09 pm

Saiwania wrote:The vast majority of people are still cisgender and can fall under the words "him" or "her." I must say, I'm so grateful for that. If the majority of people were transgender or had confused gender identities, I think it would be absolute chaos.

911? Yeah, we have a case of confused gender.

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Postby Esternial » Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:10 pm

Nuwe Suid Afrika wrote:
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:How about this one?

He/She/They/It just looks really ugly

I'd place my bet on you actually finding her attractive.

But you're too insecure, which results in you labelling this person as ugly. She was actually born female, so rest easy, son.

Maybe you should call all women "it" in the future?
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Postby Luziyca » Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:10 pm

Jetan wrote:This is old news (and I think we've had a thread or two about it too). -snip-

This. Personally, if it's not tax-funded, I don't care about what they do, so long as they meet the standards.
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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:10 pm

Krieg-Deathworld wrote:
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:I would beg on my knees for the chance to kiss one of those women, they are outlandishly gorgeous and way more feminine than a lot of girls I know who were born with vaginas.

Really? I suppose it's just a matter of taste I suppose. I don't like my women to look masculine.

Neither of those women look any sort of masculine.
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Cu Math wrote:Axon is like a bear with a PH.D. She debates at first, then eats your face.
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:THE MAN'S PENIS HAS LEFT THE VAGINA. IT'S THE UTERUS'S TURN TO SHINE.

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Postby Skappola » Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:10 pm

Esternial wrote:
Skappola wrote:Yeah, not everyone reacts to this situation like you want them to. The reality is that a majority or large minority will act with disgust upon finding out the person is not a woman or not a man.

Which is an irrational response fuelled by their own insecurities.

I am done with this idiotic "insecurities" idea. It is not because people are insecure that they are disgusted by kissing a man. You're saying a person is insecure with their heterosexuality because they are disgusted by homosexual kissing. It's like saying a transgender woman is insecure with her new gender because she's disgusted by penises. It makes no fucking sense.
Being able to deal with it and think rationally is the thing that would save you from being a sad little shell of man after that experience.

I don't care about your views on what is the rational response. The fact remains that many people would be disgusted by engaging in same-sex kissing, and to let them kiss you without informing them that your gender is different than they think is terrible.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:11 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:Not really, it's rape-by-deception. Most countries have laws recognizing it as such. In this country, it has been considered rape since 1872.


Way to dilute the meaning and severity of rape as a term :eyebrow: .


Eh, if informed consent is the benchmark for a sexual encounter to not be rape then I don't see it as much of a stretch.

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Postby United Marxist Nations » Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:11 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:Not really, it's rape-by-deception. Most countries have laws recognizing it as such. In this country, it has been considered rape since 1872.


Way to dilute the meaning and severity of rape as a term :eyebrow: .

No, lying to gain consent is bad, especially in the original terminology of the law ("rape-by-impersonation")
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Postby Olthar » Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:12 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Olthar wrote:No it isn't. The state of an individual's genitals is relevant only to that individual. Not you or anyone else has the right to them. You don't own another person's body parts. Their history is none of your concern. If she has a vagina when her panties come off, that's all you need to know. You don't get to ask, and she has no requirement to tell.


She may have no requirement to tell, but it's a pretty important thing that would be better if everyone involved in actually knew about.

No. It's not important, and it is outright offensive to say it is. You are very literally saying that it is completely impossible for trans people to be who they want to be. No matter how much they transition, no matter how much surgery they undergo, they will never be able to escape their past. She's not a woman; she's a fake woman. She used to have a penis twenty years ago, and that will always be important. Fuck. That. And fuck the cis bigotry that perpetuates that.
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Postby Krieg-Deathworld » Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:12 pm

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:
Krieg-Deathworld wrote:Really? I suppose it's just a matter of taste I suppose. I don't like my women to look masculine.

Neither of those women look any sort of masculine.

I tend to dislike the angular look.
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:12 pm

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:
Krieg-Deathworld wrote:She is not recognizably trans, but she is off enough to keep me from approaching her.
Nuwe Suid Afrika wrote:He/She/They/It just looks really ugly


That's Alessandra Ambrosio, one of the best models on earth. She was born with a vagina.
Here's the hint: A lot of the time, there IS NO indication that she ever had male genitalia. She looks like a woman, and all women look different.

Precisely. The only reason these people are saying these things is because they're assuming that all the pictures you're providing are of trans* people. The truth is, they're just deciding that all transwomen look masculine without looking at anyone objectively.
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