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Postby Mavorpen » Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:23 pm

Greater Weselton wrote:
Communist Volkstrad wrote:How does it go against one's dignity if it's consensual?

It violates the natural purpose of sex.

What, feeling good?

No, I'm pretty sure there's plenty of that.
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Postby Socialist Czechia » Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:26 pm

Prostitution can be legal, regulated, fairly safe and both client and worker can be protected as much as possible. That doesn't have to be a problem.

However, if women are beaten sex slaves and kids are used for prostitution too, I would have no mercy with such 'tourists'.
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Postby Greater Weselton » Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:26 pm

Galloism wrote:
Greater Weselton wrote:They are still religious.

And the religious who have no qualms about sex?

...

What? Christianity ain't the only religion in the world you know. I remember these people in ancient Greece... ahh, old memories. Good times, good times.

They follow the wrong religion in my mind.
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Greater Weselton wrote:It violates the natural purpose of sex.

What, feeling good?

No, I'm pretty sure there's plenty of that.

Feeling good is not the only purpose of sex.
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Postby Galloism » Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:26 pm

Benuty wrote:
Galloism wrote:And the religious who have no qualms about sex?

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What? Christianity ain't the only religion in the world you know. I remember these people in ancient Greece... ahh, old memories. Good times, good times.

It is a shame Catamite is only useful for insulting someone now. Mainly because some people have no idea what the hell it even means.

Well, that wasn't really my thing.

See, all them wives who were just considered breeding stock by the men, with no focus on their pleasure?

Well, they had to get their kicks in somehow. That's where I came in.
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Postby Howslandia » Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:27 pm

Eleanor Ritas wrote:
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But if out in the country a man happens to meet a young woman pledged to be married and rapes her, only the man who has done this shall die. Do nothing to the woman; she has committed no sin deserving death. This case is like that of someone who attacks and murders a neighbor, for the man found the young woman out in the country, and though the betrothed woman screamed, there was no one to rescue her.

- Deuteronomy 22:25-27


So....if you rape a girl already engaged, you're executed. If you rape a girl not engaged, you marry her.

No wonder Jewish moms want their daughters to get married...

Eh...

As a Lutheran, I have a zero tolerance for rape. I personally believe that rape should be punished by execution.

I dont generally try to use the Bible in a religious argument though, because being as old as it is, what's written in it can be understood in many different ways. So using the Bible just creates an argument. I just felt that he shouldn't post just the part that can be taken in a really bad way. If you're going to quote something, dont just quote the negative part.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:27 pm

Greater Weselton wrote:Feeling good is not the only purpose of sex.

For me it is, and, well, for these people engaging in this activity, it is as well in this specific case.
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Postby Benuty » Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:28 pm

Greater Weselton wrote:
Galloism wrote:And the religious who have no qualms about sex?

...

What? Christianity ain't the only religion in the world you know. I remember these people in ancient Greece... ahh, old memories. Good times, good times.

They follow the wrong religion in my mind.
Mavorpen wrote:What, feeling good?

No, I'm pretty sure there's plenty of that.

Feeling good is not the only purpose of sex.


Neither is reproduction.
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Postby Communist Volkstrad » Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:28 pm

Greater Weselton wrote:
Galloism wrote:And the religious who have no qualms about sex?

...

What? Christianity ain't the only religion in the world you know. I remember these people in ancient Greece... ahh, old memories. Good times, good times.

They follow the wrong religion in my mind.
Mavorpen wrote:What, feeling good?

No, I'm pretty sure there's plenty of that.

Feeling good is not the only purpose of sex.

Then why not just use it for that single purpose without the others?
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Postby Socialist Czechia » Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:28 pm

Howslandia wrote:
Eleanor Ritas wrote:
So....if you rape a girl already engaged, you're executed. If you rape a girl not engaged, you marry her.

No wonder Jewish moms want their daughters to get married...

Eh...

As a Lutheran, I have a zero tolerance for rape. I personally believe that rape should be punished by execution.


Are you sure forced labour in uranium mine for whole life isn't much more...humane solution? :p
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Postby The Orson Empire » Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:29 pm

Greater Weselton wrote:It is immoral.

You cannot force your religious views on other people. I am a Christian myself, but I do not try to force my beliefs on others. This is a secular country.

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Postby Galloism » Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:30 pm

Communist Volkstrad wrote:
Greater Weselton wrote:They follow the wrong religion in my mind.
Feeling good is not the only purpose of sex.

Then why not just use it for that single purpose without the others?

That's what happened to me. I went on this pleasure drive one time, just drove around for fun because driving can be fun.

Next thing I knew, people were picketing my house for denigrating the natural transportation purpose of my vehicle.

True story.
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Postby Vermark » Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:31 pm

Communist Volkstrad wrote:
Greater Weselton wrote:They follow the wrong religion in my mind.
Feeling good is not the only purpose of sex.

Then why not just use it for that single purpose without the others?


What you think is it's purpose is your business, and what someone else thinks is his business. Therefore, just because one (such as Greater Weselton) believes in one such notion, doesn't mean that notion is the one and only correct response. If you rule a population based off of one person's ideals and opinions, you have a dictatorship.
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Postby Greater-London » Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:31 pm

If two or more adults consent to having sex then they should be allowed. If a condition of the sex is that someone gets paid in the end I don't have a problem with it either.

It's not something I would ever do, I personally think that its seedy and whilst I don't look down on sex workers I do look down on punters. Regardless its not my businesses and so long as its safe and healthy I don't care.
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Postby Howslandia » Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:31 pm

Socialist Czechia wrote:
Howslandia wrote:Eh...

As a Lutheran, I have a zero tolerance for rape. I personally believe that rape should be punished by execution.


Are you sure forced labour in uranium mine for whole life isn't much more...humane solution? :p

Nah, do that with the murderers XD
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Postby Socialist Czechia » Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:31 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Greater Weselton wrote:It is immoral.

You cannot force your religious views on other people. I am a Christian myself, but I do not try to force my beliefs on others. This is a secular country.


Nice to see some christian who can get that someone has no moral problem with strippers or hookers.
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Postby Kelinfort » Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:31 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Greater Weselton wrote:It is immoral.

You cannot force your religious views on other people. I am a Christian myself, but I do not try to force my beliefs on others. This is a secular country.

I find it hilarious when fundamentalists complain about perceived persecution, yet continue to set about establishing a theocracy in America.

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Postby WestRedMaple » Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:33 pm

Greater Weselton wrote:
United facist States of America wrote:Then we must punish Baboons who have been observed to practice prostitution.

It is not immoral for them.
Benuty wrote:Define "secular".

The irreligious.


It isn't immoral for many humans either

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Postby Socialist Czechia » Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:33 pm

Howslandia wrote:
Socialist Czechia wrote:
Are you sure forced labour in uranium mine for whole life isn't much more...humane solution? :p

Nah, do that with the murderers XD


Hm. Murderers...in dark mine with rapists...who will likely go mad and bisexual...nah, better to have them together :lol:
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Postby Digital Planets » Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:34 pm

It really doesn't sound all that bad, to be honest. I wouldn't mind doing it every now and then.
So you decide to open it anyway? What the heck, man?

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Postby Communist Volkstrad » Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:34 pm

Vermark wrote:
Communist Volkstrad wrote:Then why not just use it for that single purpose without the others?


What you think is it's purpose is your business, and what someone else thinks is his business. Therefore, just because one (such as Greater Weselton) believes in one such notion, doesn't mean that notion is the one and only correct response. If you rule a population based off of one person's ideals and opinions, you have a dictatorship.

He himself stated that "pleasure isn't the only purpose of sex" which means he acknowledges that it is, thus defeating his own argument that prostitution is against the purpose of sex.
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Postby Greater Weselton » Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:34 pm

Communist Volkstrad wrote:
Greater Weselton wrote:They follow the wrong religion in my mind.
Feeling good is not the only purpose of sex.

Then why not just use it for that single purpose without the others?

It can also serve as a unifying tool.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:36 pm

Benuty wrote:
Greater Weselton wrote:They follow the wrong religion in my mind.
Feeling good is not the only purpose of sex.


Neither is reproduction.

Reproduction isn't even the main one, evident by the fact that we aren't restricted to using sex by any sort of "estrus cycle".
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Postby Howslandia » Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:39 pm

Socialist Czechia wrote:
Howslandia wrote:Nah, do that with the murderers XD


Hm. Murderers...in dark mine with rapists...who will likely go mad and bisexual...nah, better to have them together :lol:

Throw in the people convicted of domestic violence and then it'll be a real party XP
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