North Korea calls on UN to investigate CIA ‘brutal torture'

by **Kravanica** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:35 pm

Alyakia wrote:
Kravanica wrote:I rape?

you used "we" to represent the nations actions, so i used "you" in response. and yes.

I suppiae you're referring to certain war crimes?

It certainly wasn't state-sanctioned rape.

by **Imperializt Russia** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:35 pm

Kravanica wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
No, but we do have the worlds highest prisoner population and we still torture people. Torture and mass imprisonment are bad.

Imprisoning people after they've been prosecuted in a court of law ain't illegal, m8.

I don't believe he said that it was.

by **Wolfmanne** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:36 pm

The strange thing is that North Korea actually has a point right now. Still, it could investigate into their own human rights issues too.

by **Imperializt Russia** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:37 pm

Kravanica wrote:
Alyakia wrote:
you used "we" to represent the nations actions, so i used "you" in response. and yes.

I suppiae you're referring to certain war crimes?

It certainly wasn't state-sanctioned rape.

The world's police force, the most powerful democracy, doesn't have the political oversight to prevent its intelligence operatives from overstepping the mark.

That scares me more than state-sanctioned rape, actually.

by **Alyakia** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:37 pm

Kravanica wrote:
Alyakia wrote:
you used "we" to represent the nations actions, so i used "you" in response. and yes.

I suppiae you're referring to certain war crimes?

It certainly wasn't state-sanctioned rape.

nah the CIA got a registered sex offender to shove pasta up someones ass and it was entirely sanctioned. at least it didn't involve [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Program#Torture]eels[/utl] this time? *shrug*

by **Washington Resistance Army** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:38 pm

Kravanica wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
No, but we do have the worlds highest prisoner population and we still torture people. Torture and mass imprisonment are bad.

Imprisoning people after they've been prosecuted in a court of law ain't illegal, m8.

I never said it was, I said it wasn't a good thing. We have people in prison for the most trivial of fucking things, adding to that we hold people without trials and torture them we really don't seem that much better.

by **Bezkoshtovnya** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:39 pm

Kravanica wrote:
Scomagia wrote:We torture less, so we're "better"? Torture is torture.

I'm saying we're better because we're not sending our people to Nazi-style concentration camps.

Yeah sure, if that is the standard you are setting. But we did something similar, granted not as bad, not even 100 years ago.

by **Soldati Senza Confini** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 4:30 pm

Kravanica wrote:
Scomagia wrote:We torture less, so we're "better"? Torture is torture.

I'm saying we're better because we're not sending our people to Nazi-style concentration camps.

Oh of course. We're not gassing people, we're just shoving things up their ass.

That's so much better, of course.

by **Pragia** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 4:40 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Kravanica wrote:I'm saying we're better because we're not sending our people to Nazi-style concentration camps.

Oh of course. We're not gassing people, we're just shoving things up their ass.

That's so much better, of course.

I don't know, I'd rather be rectally rehydrated than dead.

As fucking horrible as the report says things are, did anyone die? (question, not rhetoric)

by **Costa Fierro** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:09 pm

Wolfmanne wrote:The strange thing is that North Korea actually has a point right now. Still, it could investigate into their own human rights issues too.

It's a bit like asking Bush Jr to write an essay on the meaning behind War and Peace.

by **The Sotoan Union** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:33 pm

Can the UN investigate the concentration camps then?

by **Soldati Senza Confini** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:52 pm

Pragia wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
Oh of course. We're not gassing people, we're just shoving things up their ass.

That's so much better, of course.

I don't know, I'd rather be rectally rehydrated than dead.

As fucking horrible as the report says things are, did anyone die? (question, not rhetoric)

One person is in the report who died from hypothermia.

by **Prezelly** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:59 pm

Show me a country who hasn't tortured people.

Anyways, North Korea being either funny or in a illegitimate source, this is dumb

by **Imperializt Russia** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 6:01 pm

Prezelly wrote:Show me a country who hasn't tortured people.

This isn't a justification in most cases, let alone this.

by **Neutraligon** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 6:05 pm

...Oh god the irony... :rofl:

by **Scomagia** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:03 pm

Neutraligon wrote:...Oh god the irony...

Which, in hindsight, applies to American condemnations of other nations torture programs.

by **Kubra** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:06 pm

Prezelly wrote:Show me a country who hasn't tortured people.

listen to this guy, he speaks correctly
rather than focusing on one specific case, we should be advancing our nefarious plots to overthrow all the worlds governments.

by **Alyakia** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:27 pm

Prezelly wrote:Show me a country who hasn't tortured people.

Anyways, North Korea being either funny or in a illegitimate source, this is dumb

you see the thing about claiming to be the best country in the world and better than countries like north korea constantly is that you actually can't go "b-b-but they do it too" anymore

by **Costa Fierro** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:22 pm

Prezelly wrote:Show me a country who hasn't tortured people.

New Zealand, unless you consider subjecting people to our accent and Lorde "torture".

by **Earl of Sandwich IV** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:58 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Earl of Sandwich IV wrote:It's about justice. You are denying the victims the justice they deserve. Sometimes simply executing someone is not enough, you have to go the extra mile or it isn't adequate punishment.

Torturing people is never justice.

Sometimes it is. What else do you suggest? Let people like Breivik live a comfy life in prison with a flat screen TV and personal cook? If someone commits horrendous crimes he deserves a harsh punishment. Everything else would be unjust.

by **Scomagia** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 12:08 am

Earl of Sandwich IV wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Torturing people is never justice.

Sometimes it is. What else do you suggest? Let people like Breivik live a comfy life in prison with a flat screen TV and personal cook? If someone commits horrendous crimes he deserves a harsh punishment. Everything else would be unjust.

Torture removes any possibility of redemption. Why incentive is there to reform if torture is an accepted punishment? That sounds like incentive to double down and lash out harder at society.

by **Alyakia** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:17 am

Earl of Sandwich IV wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Torturing people is never justice.

Sometimes it is. What else do you suggest? Let people like Breivik live a comfy life in prison with a flat screen TV and personal cook? If someone commits horrendous crimes he deserves a harsh punishment. Everything else would be unjust.

yes. you want to torture people and cut off their hands you can go to syria or saudi arabia.

by **Kilobugya** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:23 am

NK is just trolling the USA whenever it can. But only the USA is to blame to make itself such an easy target by falling so low.

by **Grande Republic of Arcadia** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:27 am

The Conez Imperium wrote:Ironically what North Korea says is true. Torture is torture and thus must be dealt with appropriately

But N.Korea put criminals and their families in prison camps he kills random people.Also he brain washed them to think of him as a god.Yet he calls out the CIA North Korea dose a lot worst.

by **Imperializt Russia** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:30 am

Grande Republic of Arcadia wrote:
The Conez Imperium wrote:Ironically what North Korea says is true. Torture is torture and thus must be dealt with appropriately

But N.Korea put criminals and their families in prison camps he kills random people.Also he brain washed them to think of him as a god.Yet he calls out the CIA North Korea dose a lot worst.

"We're better than them" is not, has never been (an acceptable) and will hopefully never be an excuse to ignore problems at home.

As someone said earlier in the thread, what do you want? The "Better than Hitler" medal?

North Korea calls on UN to investigate CIA ‘brutal torture'

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