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Postby The Nihilistic view » Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:32 am

Anglo-California wrote:I live in California, where gas prices have been extremely high (it's been mostly above $4.00 since the Recession. Hell, I still remember when it was like $5.00 in 2008).

Anyways, gas prices are now below $3.00, for the first time since like 2006. I like this.


:rofl:

When fuel costs you about $10 a gallon then you have something to moan about it being high.
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Postby Condunum » Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:36 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Anglo-California wrote:I live in California, where gas prices have been extremely high (it's been mostly above $4.00 since the Recession. Hell, I still remember when it was like $5.00 in 2008).

Anyways, gas prices are now below $3.00, for the first time since like 2006. I like this.


:rofl:

When fuel costs you about $10 a gallon then you have something to moan about it being high.

What country are you from?
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Postby Skeckoa » Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:37 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:When fuel costs you about $10 a gallon then you have something to moan about it being high.
It deffy does not help when American urban areas are some of the lowest density in the world, and require you to take a car to do essentially anything.

Also doesn't help that houses are more spread out as well and therefore more costly to heat as compared to apartments such as in most European cities.
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Postby The Transcaucasian Democratic Republic » Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:39 am

Maybe this is the OPEC trying to compete with the enhanced North American sector of this industry.
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Postby Shilya » Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:40 am

Condunum wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
:rofl:

When fuel costs you about $10 a gallon then you have something to moan about it being high.

What country are you from?

I'm from Germany, and am regulary amused at american complaints about gas prices as well. We pay approximately 6 Euro ($7.50) per gallon, and used to be higher as well.
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Postby Condunum » Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:40 am

Skeckoa wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:When fuel costs you about $10 a gallon then you have something to moan about it being high.
It deffy does not help when American urban areas are some of the lowest density in the world, and require you to take a car to go essentially anything.

Also doesn't help that houses are more spread out as well and therefore more costly to heat as compared to apartments such as in most European cities.

At current gas accounts for 35%+-5 of my spending. It's not like they're particularly cheap prices here at 4 dollars a gallon, they were an absolute nightmare because I commute 20 minutes and 17 miles (or 18 minutes and 16.5 miles depending on the job) each way every day.
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Postby The Transcaucasian Democratic Republic » Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:55 am

Shilya wrote:
Condunum wrote:What country are you from?

I'm from Germany, and am regulary amused at american complaints about gas prices as well. We pay approximately 6 Euro ($7.50) per gallon, and used to be higher as well.

Here we pay about $1.50 less and we get it at heavily-subsidised prices from Venezuela.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:57 am

Shilya wrote:
Condunum wrote:What country are you from?

I'm from Germany, and am regulary amused at american complaints about gas prices as well. We pay approximately 6 Euro ($7.50) per gallon, and used to be higher as well.


Indeed, it does make me laugh. :lol2:
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:59 am

Condunum wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
:rofl:

When fuel costs you about $10 a gallon then you have something to moan about it being high.

What country are you from?


UK, our current price is about $7 per US gallon. That's down from 2012 highs of about $9-10 per US gallon.
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Postby Tayrona » Mon Dec 15, 2014 1:01 am

Current price here is approx. US$1.37/litre (€110/litre). It's nice to see it falling but it's only a temporary fall. It'll pick back up. That's why OPEC is so nonchalant about cutting production, they can and will force that price back up at any time.
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Postby Condunum » Mon Dec 15, 2014 1:01 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Condunum wrote:What country are you from?


UK, our current price is about $7 per US gallon. That's down from 2012 highs of about $9-10 per US gallon.

Which I'd be capable of paying, if our insurance prices didn't make your look like chump change.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Mon Dec 15, 2014 1:18 am

Condunum wrote:
Skeckoa wrote: It deffy does not help when American urban areas are some of the lowest density in the world, and require you to take a car to go essentially anything.

Also doesn't help that houses are more spread out as well and therefore more costly to heat as compared to apartments such as in most European cities.

At current gas accounts for 35%+-5 of my spending. It's not like they're particularly cheap prices here at 4 dollars a gallon, they were an absolute nightmare because I commute 20 minutes and 17 miles (or 18 minutes and 16.5 miles depending on the job) each way every day.


Either your car has the most inefficient internal combustion engine in the world or you need to ask for a raise. I have about a 20 mile commute to my job in the holidays, costs me about £8-9 a day fuel. I drive my dad's old car which has a 2.5L TDI so not exactly easy on the fuel. But it's not close to such a huge chunk of my spending.
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Postby Condunum » Mon Dec 15, 2014 8:52 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Condunum wrote:At current gas accounts for 35%+-5 of my spending. It's not like they're particularly cheap prices here at 4 dollars a gallon, they were an absolute nightmare because I commute 20 minutes and 17 miles (or 18 minutes and 16.5 miles depending on the job) each way every day.


Either your car has the most inefficient internal combustion engine in the world or you need to ask for a raise. I have about a 20 mile commute to my job in the holidays, costs me about £8-9 a day fuel. I drive my dad's old car which has a 2.5L TDI so not exactly easy on the fuel. But it's not close to such a huge chunk of my spending.

I drive a truck. I need to drive a truck. Avg mpg is about 15, and raises aren't a real thing in America. They're structured.

You should consider spending a few years in America on anything below an 11$/hr job. They're the fastest growing area of employment and they don't support a family.
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Postby Kravanica » Mon Dec 15, 2014 8:56 am

Conserative Morality wrote:I'll put on my conspiracy theory hat and say that OPEC is letting prices drop in the hopes that businesses in the West will make the short term decision to lessen investment in renewables, in order that OPEC might extend its profiteering.

Well... At least you admitted to the conspiracy theory part.

In any event, it's nice to see oil prices dropping. It probably won't last, but whatever.
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Postby Calimera II » Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:10 pm

Shilya wrote:
Condunum wrote:What country are you from?

I'm from Germany, and am regulary amused at american complaints about gas prices as well. We pay approximately 6 Euro ($7.50) per gallon, and used to be higher as well.

Indeed. The Gas Price in the US is extremely low. In The Netherlands, were I am living, it is US$9,46 currently.
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Postby Estva » Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:26 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Anglo-California wrote:I live in California, where gas prices have been extremely high (it's been mostly above $4.00 since the Recession. Hell, I still remember when it was like $5.00 in 2008).

Anyways, gas prices are now below $3.00, for the first time since like 2006. I like this.


:rofl:

When fuel costs you about $10 a gallon then you have something to moan about it being high.

You also need a car to really get any job here in the US.

I mean, Texas is the size of France.
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Postby The Confederacy of Nationalism » Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:29 pm

Falling oil is fucking lovely...
I like my $2.00 gasoline
I like low prices so I can invest in oil too
and I certainly love that the ruble crisis might give Russia an incentive to back the ruble with gold, which would be a slap in the face to dollar imperialism.
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Postby The Confederacy of Nationalism » Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:29 pm

Calimera II wrote:
Shilya wrote:I'm from Germany, and am regulary amused at american complaints about gas prices as well. We pay approximately 6 Euro ($7.50) per gallon, and used to be higher as well.

Indeed. The Gas Price in the US is extremely low. In The Netherlands, were I am living, it is US$9,46 currently.
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and in Venezuela it's $0.12
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Postby The Confederacy of Nationalism » Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:35 pm

Skeckoa wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:When fuel costs you about $10 a gallon then you have something to moan about it being high.
It deffy does not help when American urban areas are some of the lowest density in the world, and require you to take a car to do essentially anything.

Also doesn't help that houses are more spread out as well and therefore more costly to heat as compared to apartments such as in most European cities.

Nah man, nobody lives in the decaying urban areas anymore, Americans need cars because of the suburban flight in the 50s. Suburban America dwarfs urban and rural America.
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Postby Calimera II » Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:51 pm

The Confederacy of Nationalism wrote:
Calimera II wrote:Indeed. The Gas Price in the US is extremely low. In The Netherlands, were I am living, it is US$9,46 currently.
Source: http://www.statista.com/statistics/2213 ... the-world/

and in Venezuela it's $0.12


Indeed. That's a bit too perfect.

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Postby The Confederacy of Nationalism » Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:56 pm

Calimera II wrote:
The Confederacy of Nationalism wrote:and in Venezuela it's $0.12


Indeed. That's a bit too perfect.

No, it's because gasoline is heavily subsidized there. It's heavily taxed in northern Europe, and it's lightly taxed in America.
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Postby Second Blazing » Sun Dec 21, 2014 4:01 pm

Keep on dropping, 2.19 right now, I heard its 1.99 in Sioux Falls. I got a 10-12 hour drive to Chicago next weekend, the more it drops, the cheaper it will be.
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Postby The Confederacy of Nationalism » Sun Dec 21, 2014 4:02 pm

Second Blazing wrote:Keep on dropping, 2.19 right now, I heard its 1.99 in Sioux Falls. I got a 10-12 hour drive to Chicago next weekend, the more it drops, the cheaper it will be.

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Postby Rio Cana » Sun Dec 21, 2014 5:36 pm

Valica wrote:Hopefully when the prices slingshot back, people will have been so used to low prices that they invest that saved money in renewable methods for cars.

Tesla, water engines, clean-burning fuels.
All of it needs to come so we can kill oil and have a shot at saving our godforsaken planet.


Seem you did not see the news. Seems that in the US the sale of SUV's, which consume gasoline, have gone up because of lower gasoline prices.

And here on our island, they need money badly so they passed a law which increases the tax on a barrel of oil from $9.50 US dollars to $15.50 US dollars. It goes into effect in March 15. They say people will not notice since the price of gasoline per litre has gone down. The problem is what happens when the price of oil goes back up.
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Postby The Confederacy of Nationalism » Sun Dec 21, 2014 5:39 pm

Valica wrote:Hopefully when the prices slingshot back, people will have been so used to low prices that they invest that saved money in renewable methods for cars.

Tesla, water engines, clean-burning fuels.
All of it needs to come so we can kill oil and have a shot at saving our godforsaken planet.

Why should we as a species desire to stay on our mundane planet when hopefully within the next thousand years we can conquer others?
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