Terrorist attack on Furry convention

[Nazi Flower Power]

I just really hope Christians weren't responsible, we have a bad enough rap as it is....

Don't worry, we almost certainly weren't. Doesn't fit the profile.

You said you thought it was the KKK or something like that. The KKK are Christians. They also believe a lot of other stuff besides Christianity, but their other beliefs don't change the fact they are Christian.

[Arkiasis]

Alright, everyone is overreacting.

http://www.arlingtoncardinal.com/2014/1 ... -rosemont/

At 1:04 a.m. firefighters reported that the source is a plain glass jar with a white powdered substance as contents. In the open air environment of the vestibule, firefighters detected a reading of 4 on the chlorine meter"

Powdered chlorine, (Calcium hypochlorite) is the typical substance used in pools. It will irritate you and it is smelly, but it's stable and won't kill you. This was hardly "chlorine gas" which would overtake you quickly and bring you to your knees in chest pain before you can get away from it. You'd be hospitalized for weeks as you cough up gallons of puss as your lungs burn.

[Olerand]

Yes. Muslims attacking "furries" in America is much too common of an occurrence. I mean, if fundamental Muslims wanted to attack someone or something in the United States, it would be individuals who like to dress up as animals.

Where did I say kebabs did it? I said Islam is the religion, in its Shariah/fundamentalist form, that encourages violence against perceived vices (like women who don't wear their dress code), that is going to kill those who don't match their worldview. I never said this was done by a Muslim. I said that it was beyond retarded to somehow blame Christianity and/or the far-right.

The other person is blaming individuals. You are blaming a religion, which is not an entity on Earth and cannot take out actions by its own, not having, you know hands, or a body.

Also, kebabs? Is that a new term by the American far-right to refer to Muslims? Seems cute.

[Tyrandel]

Chicago Tribune has people describing it as having a pool smell and hazardous materials technicians finding powder chlorine.
ABC News is talking about 'Furry Animal Lovers' and says things have been decontaminated.

And this thread is the fourth result for me searching 'furry terrorist attack' on Google.

Furries do to, just most are on the net and not out in the open as the pony fandom.

Like that one that makes and sells dragon-shaped dongs?

They also sell pens. Quite fun to put on your desk and see who reacts to them.

[Skinia]

Alright, everyone is overreacting.

http://www.arlingtoncardinal.com/2014/1 ... -rosemont/

At 1:04 a.m. firefighters reported that the source is a plain glass jar with a white powdered substance as contents. In the open air environment of the vestibule, firefighters detected a reading of 4 on the chlorine meter"

Powdered chlorine, (Calcium hypochlorite) is the typical substance used in pools. It will irritate you and it is smelly, but it's stable and won't kill you. This was hardly "chlorine gas" which would overtake you quickly and bring you to your knees in chest pain before you can get away from it. You'd be hospitalized for weeks as you cough up gallons of puss as your lungs burn.

Ah, that's good. I feel better already.

[Orangi]

Where did I say kebabs did it? I said Islam is the religion, in its Shariah/fundamentalist form, that encourages violence against perceived vices (like women who don't wear their dress code), that is going to kill those who don't match their worldview. I never said this was done by a Muslim. I said that it was beyond retarded to somehow blame Christianity and/or the far-right.

The other person is blaming individuals. You are blaming a religion, which is not an entity on Earth and cannot take out actions by its own, not having, you know hands, or a body.

Also, kebabs? Is that a new term by the American far-right to refer to Muslims? Seems cute.

Nah, it's a polandball thing.

[Olerand]

Nah, it's a polandball thing.

Come again?

[Soviet Haaregrad]

Yes. Muslims attacking "furries" in America is much too common of an occurrence. I mean, if fundamental Muslims wanted to attack someone or something in the United States, it would be individuals who like to dress up as animals.

Where did I say kebabs did it? I said Islam is the religion, in its Shariah/fundamentalist form, that encourages violence against perceived vices (like women who don't wear their dress code), that is going to kill those who don't match their worldview. I never said this was done by a Muslim. I said that it was beyond retarded to somehow blame Christianity and/or the far-right.

The Christian far-right is still the largest source of domestic terrorists in North America, they're never not a reasonable guess when assigning blame for terrorism. If they don't like it they should stop all the militant bullshit talk and disown people who promote violence within their cause.

But they won't, ever.

[Olthar]

Like that one that makes and sells dragon-shaped dongs?

Like bronies dont make MLP porn

Yes, but our porn is hot. *nods*

[Orangi]

Nah, it's a polandball thing.

Come again?

Incredible. Somebody who doesn't know about Polandball, but frequents NS. Look it up, it's hilarious stuff.

[Nazi Flower Power]

Gas is too random for the Christian Right. They hate collateral damage.

Sweetie, when was the last time we at the Christian Right tried to kill someone we didn't like? Wasn't the last clinic bombing in the nineties? Do you really believe that reactionaries and Christian fundamentalists are out to get you? Are you so swayed by the BS and propaganda against the far-right that you really think we'd do this? If any religion is behind this, it's Islam, not Christianity.

They're our neighbors as much as like-minded people are. In fact, it is much more pleasing to God to treat the ones you despise with love and civilized behavior than the ones you like. Anyone can like people like them. It takes a whole lot more effort to like people who don't think like you.

Why are you making this post addressed to Margno?

[Soviet Haaregrad]

Like bronies dont make MLP porn

Yes, but our porn is hot. *nods*

No. Just no.

[Orangi]

Like bronies dont make MLP porn

Yes, but our porn is hot. *nods*

Olthar, not here please.

[Las Palmeras]

Where did I say kebabs did it? I said Islam is the religion, in its Shariah/fundamentalist form, that encourages violence against perceived vices (like women who don't wear their dress code), that is going to kill those who don't match their worldview. I never said this was done by a Muslim. I said that it was beyond retarded to somehow blame Christianity and/or the far-right.

The other person is blaming individuals. You are blaming a religion, which is not an entity on Earth and cannot take out actions by its own, not having, you know hands, or a body.

Also, kebabs? Is that a new term by the American far-right to refer to Muslims? Seems cute.

Eh, if I think "kebab" I think "Turks". And Turks are...fairly secular...and not Arab.

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So...it's possible it was an accident? It's relieving that it's highly likely that nobody bears murderous grudges on fan groups.

[Urran]

I think by now we have all established and agreed that this is a disgusting and vile act. Now the question is, who and why? I don't think whoever it was meant to kill. Why go through the trouble of using chlorine gas when one could have used a handgun, scissors, a knife, or various other objects to kill? To me at least, it seems like a scare tactic.

[Olerand]

Where did I say kebabs did it? I said Islam is the religion, in its Shariah/fundamentalist form, that encourages violence against perceived vices (like women who don't wear their dress code), that is going to kill those who don't match their worldview. I never said this was done by a Muslim. I said that it was beyond retarded to somehow blame Christianity and/or the far-right.

The Christian far-right is still the largest source of domestic terrorists in North America, they're never not a reasonable guess when assigning blame for terrorism. If they don't like it they should stop all the militant bullshit talk and disown people who promote violence within their cause.

But they won't, ever.

Why would one disown something they believe in? Oh, I forgot, Christians are goodTM.

Christian extremists are a real threat in America, today, in 2014. And frankly, they get much more of a pass than anyone else does, and that's very worrisome.

[MERIZoC]

Like bronies dont make MLP porn

Yes, but our porn is hot. *nods*

Let's not go there.

[The Nihilistic view]

So I came to this thread expecting some kind of bombing or shooting and it's somebody letting rip with tear gas!

[Margno]

No, the WBC never uses terrorism, they're purely a hate-speech organization. Gas is too random for the Christian Right. They hate collateral damage.

Firebombing tends to create collateral damage, and they have no problems with that.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christia ... _extremism
Usually it'll be specific assassinations. Anti abortion terrorism has involved some bombings (usually it's shootings, shootings, and more shootings,) but they've almost exclusively killed staff at abortion clinics.
Hate to say it, but guys like the Army of God don't see people who work at or patronize abortion clinics as collateral damage. Those are their intended targets.
But gas, in a convention, can't be controlled to nearly the extent a bomb can. Besides, which Christian terrorist group has shown any interest in killing furries? They've attacked a lot of abortion clinics and some gay clubs, but I can't find a single case of any of them breaking their usual targets like this.
I think it's super unlikely that this is Identity or Christian Patriot. Like I said, it sounds like KKK, if anything, but could well be a lone crazy person judging by the lack of particularly realistic political motivations.

[Orangi]

Yes, but our porn is hot. *nods*

Let's not go there.

^^^^^

Even if people here do think it appealing, this is not the place. NS isn't the place, period.

[TurtleShroom]

There seems to be some sort of new "culture war" of sorts going on in America between some niche groups and their opponents.

The American "culture war" is generally a term used by reactionaries and Christian fundamentalists to refer to a peacible dissent and opposition to things such as abortion and homosexuality. It's called a "war" not because it requires violence, but because it's a battle for the hearts and minds of the court of public opinion. (-and in the case of abortion, the Church is winning in the USA.) It's a strictly nonviolent debate, not a bloodied war.

[Anollasia]

There's a furry convention?

[Nazi Flower Power]

Alright, everyone is overreacting.

http://www.arlingtoncardinal.com/2014/1 ... -rosemont/

At 1:04 a.m. firefighters reported that the source is a plain glass jar with a white powdered substance as contents. In the open air environment of the vestibule, firefighters detected a reading of 4 on the chlorine meter"

Powdered chlorine, (Calcium hypochlorite) is the typical substance used in pools. It will irritate you and it is smelly, but it's stable and won't kill you. This was hardly "chlorine gas" which would overtake you quickly and bring you to your knees in chest pain before you can get away from it. You'd be hospitalized for weeks as you cough up gallons of puss as your lungs burn.

Well, that changes things... Maybe just some bored teenagers doing it for the "lulz." That theory that it was a disgruntled person from within the furry community is also more plausible if it's not a deadly weapon.

[Meryuma]

It does of Westboro Baptist Cult...I mean Church.

No, the WBC never uses terrorism, they're purely a hate-speech organization. Gas is too random for the Christian Right. They hate collateral damage.

Plus the WBC have never talked about furries.

Let me clarify that not EVERYBODY who dresses like a Sonic the Hedgehog fan-character and dances in disturbing groupings of like-minded people is inherently insane. I will, however, stand by my assertion that such a group of individuals is more likely to include those who would objectively be deemed mentally unstable. And, with the proliferation of information in this day and age, it wouldn't surprise me if this gassing was done by an unhinged furry.

More mentally ill people are victims of violence than perpetrators of violence.

Like bronies dont make MLP porn

Yes, but our porn is hot. *nods*

Sexualizing ponies makes less sense than furry stuff imo. I mean, they're quadrupeds with no real sexual traits. I guess they have butts? idk

[Olerand]

Come again?

Incredible. Somebody who doesn't know about Polandball, but frequents NS. Look it up, it's hilarious stuff.

I did so. Interesting.