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Postby Vamtrl » Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:43 pm

Olthar wrote:Wait...there are furry conventions?


There are my little pony conventions too, you dont get to judge bruh

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Postby MERIZoC » Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:43 pm

Olthar wrote:Wait...there are furry conventions?

Can't do everything on the internet. :p

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Postby Twilight Imperium » Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:43 pm

How sure are we this was furry-related and not just some nutjob who wanted to gas a hotel for whatever reason?

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Postby Torisakia » Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:44 pm

Margno wrote:
Torisakia wrote:Why care about people who have no impact on you? Let the people who were involved/associated with those involved be deeply affected.

Why treat yourself one way, and every other human being in the world another way? In what sense are so you fundamentally different from every other human on earth as to merit being considered the only important human?

I just think others are undeserving of my empathy. Many probably don't feel the same way. It's just a truth I face.
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Postby Val Halla » Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:44 pm

Torisakia wrote:
Merizoc wrote:Maybe you could have some fucking empathy then. You know, for the people who may or may not die?

Why care about people who have no impact on you? Let the people who were involved/associated with those involved be deeply affected.

Because they are still people. Just because you don't know them doesn't stop what happened to them unimportant. I feel for those who were affected by anyone who is attacked, because at the end of the day, they are all human just like me.
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Postby Zathganastan » Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:44 pm

Torisakia wrote:
Merizoc wrote:Maybe you could have some fucking empathy then. You know, for the people who may or may not die?

Why care about people who have no impact on you? Let the people who were involved/associated with those involved be deeply affected.


Because glaring indifference to human suffering simply because you're not being affected has repeatably lead to many crimes against humanity the world over.
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Postby Margno » Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:45 pm

Torisakia wrote:
Margno wrote:Why treat yourself one way, and every other human being in the world another way? In what sense are so you fundamentally different from every other human on earth as to merit being considered the only important human?

I just think others are undeserving of my empathy. Many probably don't feel the same way. It's just a truth I face.

In what way are they undeserving of your empathy, while you are deserving of your care? What is the distinction?
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Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:46 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:I'm not fan of furries, but I'm not sure I can condone gassing them.

Why would one who hates furries choose to get in close enough contact with them to deliver poison gas? I express my dislike of furries by generally ignoring their existence.


Maybe the person who did it has a fantasy where they are an exterminator...


I doubt it, they didn't bring any large traps to allow for relocation of the vermin.
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Postby Fortschritte » Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:46 pm

Torisakia wrote:
Merizoc wrote:Maybe you could have some fucking empathy then. You know, for the people who may or may not die?

Why care about people who have no impact on you? Let the people who were involved/associated with those involved be deeply affected.


I find your sentiment incredibly narcissistic and narrow minded. You should care because you aren't the only human capable of feeling pain, emotions, and other things. You should care because you don't matter more than everyone else, the well being of everyone matters.
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Postby Zakuvia » Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:46 pm

In all honesty, this is more than likely an inside job. Not being Truther about it, but the fandom does tend to attract unstable personalities and, combined with the petty jealousies and infighting that occurs in any clique, it's inevitable that something like this would happen.

What do I mean? Something like this:

1. People meet at furry con
2. People 'meet' after furry con
3. People 'cheat' after furry con
4. Person vows vengeance upon furry con
5. Psychotic in a fursuit gasses furry con
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Postby Twilight Imperium » Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:46 pm

Margno wrote:
Torisakia wrote:I just think others are undeserving of my empathy. Many probably don't feel the same way. It's just a truth I face.

In what way are they undeserving of your empathy, while you are deserving of your care? What is the distinction?


Don't sociopath-shame. It's not their fault they were born without empathy :(

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Postby Torisakia » Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:47 pm

Margno wrote:
Torisakia wrote:I just think others are undeserving of my empathy. Many probably don't feel the same way. It's just a truth I face.

In what way are they undeserving of your empathy, while you are deserving of your care? What is the distinction?

I follow a "treat people how they treat you" ideal. Take that as you wish.
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Postby Trevor Phillip Enterprises » Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:47 pm

Zakuvia wrote:In all honesty, this is more than likely an inside job. Not being Truther about it, but the fandom does tend to attract unstable personalities and, combined with the petty jealousies and infighting that occurs in any clique, it's inevitable that something like this would happen.

What do I mean? Something like this:

1. People meet at furry con
2. People 'meet' after furry con
3. People 'cheat' after furry con
4. Person vows vengeance upon furry con
5. Psychotic in a fursuit gasses furry con


...what?
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Postby Urran » Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:47 pm

I really don't understand the fandom, but I'm not against it. I don't understand how someone could be so cruel. I pray they find whoever is responsible.

I guess that this just goes to show that it's true that our culture has accepted a great lie, "You must hate and fear what you don't understand."
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Postby Margno » Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:47 pm

Twilight Imperium wrote:
Margno wrote:In what way are they undeserving of your empathy, while you are deserving of your care? What is the distinction?


Don't sociopath-shame. It's not their fault they were born without empathy :(

I won't shame lack of feelings. I will shame irrationality.
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Postby MERIZoC » Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:49 pm

Torisakia wrote:
Margno wrote:In what way are they undeserving of your empathy, while you are deserving of your care? What is the distinction?

I follow a "treat people how they treat you" ideal. Take that as you wish.

I can give you a 99% guarantee that most of these people would be outraged and sympathetic for you if you were gassed.

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Postby Val Halla » Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:50 pm

Zakuvia wrote:In all honesty, this is more than likely an inside job. Not being Truther about it, but the fandom does tend to attract unstable personalities and, combined with the petty jealousies and infighting that occurs in any clique, it's inevitable that something like this would happen.

What do I mean? Something like this:

1. People meet at furry con
2. People 'meet' after furry con
3. People 'cheat' after furry con
4. Person vows vengeance upon furry con
5. Psychotic in a fursuit gasses furry con

No. If you think like this, it can be applied to any case. Implying that furries are cheating psychopaths is really, really wrong.
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Postby Urran » Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:50 pm

Torisakia wrote:I follow a "treat people how they treat you" ideal. Take that as you wish.


And I follow a, "treat people how you want to be treated" rule. works for me.
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Postby Estado Nacional » Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:51 pm

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"Meh, I don't see how 9/11 affects me one way or another."


9/11 caused two wars, the Patriot Act, the loss of half a million jobs and many other things. I doubt this attack will cause anything similar.
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Postby Torisakia » Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:51 pm

Merizoc wrote:
Torisakia wrote:I follow a "treat people how they treat you" ideal. Take that as you wish.

I can give you a 99% guarantee that most of these people would be outraged and sympathetic for you if you were gassed.

Good for them. I fail to see how that changes how I should think, though.
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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:51 pm

Trevor Phillip Enterprises wrote:
Zakuvia wrote:In all honesty, this is more than likely an inside job. Not being Truther about it, but the fandom does tend to attract unstable personalities and, combined with the petty jealousies and infighting that occurs in any clique, it's inevitable that something like this would happen.

What do I mean? Something like this:

1. People meet at furry con
2. People 'meet' after furry con
3. People 'cheat' after furry con
4. Person vows vengeance upon furry con
5. Psychotic in a fursuit gasses furry con


...what?

Someone has an affair at convention, other partner flips their shit.
At least that's what I think he said.
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Postby Digital Planets » Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:52 pm

I bet anti-bronies and fur haters feel bad now.
So you decide to open it anyway? What the heck, man?

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Postby Marcurix » Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:52 pm

Agree with the hobby or not people shouldn't be attacked for it. Particularly with chlorine.
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Postby Tyrandel » Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:52 pm

Zakuvia wrote:In all honesty, this is more than likely an inside job. Not being Truther about it, but the fandom does tend to attract unstable personalities and, combined with the petty jealousies and infighting that occurs in any clique, it's inevitable that something like this would happen.

What do I mean? Something like this:

1. People meet at furry con
2. People 'meet' after furry con
3. People 'cheat' after furry con
4. Person vows vengeance upon furry con
5. Psychotic in a fursuit gasses furry con


Let's ask Tumbles the Stairdragon!
But yeah, the furry fandom definitely attracts some unique personalities. It would not be completely surprising if a disgruntled furry decided to seek vengeance or something. Usually that just involves gossip and shunning rather than chemical warfare though, so there would definitely have to be some major underlying issues as well. In which case those issues would be at fault, rather than furriness. Most furry fights are on-par with cliques of teenage girls not terrorist organizations.
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Postby MERIZoC » Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:52 pm

Torisakia wrote:
Merizoc wrote:I can give you a 99% guarantee that most of these people would be outraged and sympathetic for you if you were gassed.

Good for them. I fail to see how that changes how I should think, though.

So, you don't follow a "treat people how they treat you" ideal.

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