Your Favorite Modern Day Political Leader(s)

[Calimera II]

Nac&Pop is the abbreviation of ''Nacional y Popular'', a term frequently used in South American countries to refer to politicians who share the views of Lula, Kirchner, Morales, Correa, Mujica.


Oh hell yea, he is a big fan of Chavez.

Mujica on Chavez: "The motives remain but we lost the symbol" (Referring to Hugo Chavez)
Mujica talks about his deep friendship with Chavez
"Pepe" Mujica: ''Why wouldn't I miss Chavez?''
''He (Chavez) left an open space difficult to fill''

Well, I was previously unaware of that. I knew his administration wasn't hostile towards Chavez, but I never knew he was that friendly towards him.

They were very good friends actually. Just like he is with Fidel Castro: President Mujica: ''Fidel Castro is still brilliant''

You didn't provide any information on Maduro, though.

Here you are:
''President Mujica will give his support to Maduro''
''Mujica Backs (Maduro's) Venezuela

-Nac&Pop-
Also, I've never heard that term. Maybe it's popular in Spanish South America.

Yup, you are right there. That term is Spanish.

[Fortschritte]

Well, I was previously unaware of that. I knew his administration wasn't hostile towards Chavez, but I never knew he was that friendly towards him.

They were very good friends actually. Just like he is with Fidel Castro: President Mujica: ''Fidel Castro is still brilliant''

You didn't provide any information on Maduro, though.

Here you are:
''President Mujica will give his support to Maduro''
''Mujica Backs (Maduro's) Venezuela

That's given me more to consider. Thanks.

[Estado Nacional]

Well, I was previously unaware of that. I knew his administration wasn't hostile towards Chavez, but I never knew he was that friendly towards him.

You didn't provide any information on Maduro, though. Regardless, I now have multiple things to consider. I still admire Mujica, given what he's done for the people of Uruguay, but I can't say I'll like him as much as I used to.

And what has he done for the people of Uruguay, exactly? He legalized pot. Statist, government-controlled pot, that is.

Haha, that's true. If I were Uruguayan, I'd rather buy weed from organized crime.

[Arlenton]

Would Newt Gingrich be considered "Modern day"? He ran in the 2012 primaries but has been out of office for a while.

[Greater Weselton]

Putin is my favorite.

[Lalaki]

I was unaware that Jose Mujica supported those leaders in Central/South America. I disagree with him on that front.

However, that does not detract from his accomplishments.

[Fortschritte]

Would Newt Gingrich be considered "Modern day"? He ran in the 2012 primaries but has been out of office for a while.

He's still politically active, so sure. I can't say I'm a fan of him, though. Not only do I disagree with him on nearly all political issues, but he's had a terrible personal life.

[MERIZoC]

Putin is my favorite.

…Why?

[Fortschritte]

Putin is my favorite.

…Why?

They're both authoritarians and socially conservatives?

[Greater Mackonia]

Vladimir Putin.

Why do you admire a man who invaded Ukraine, suppresses journalism, abuses human rights, and is vehemently opposed to LGBT rights?

Putin is the only leader in the world today with the spine to deny the nauseatingly self-righteous moraline drivel that is 'international law' and is leading the way for a new, pragmatic, innovative, post-moral politics. The only reason he is demonised is because the so-called 'leaders' of the West are cowardly democratic sheep terrified of even a shot of ambition. He is a pragmatist and that is what I like. You say 'invaded Ukraine' like it was a bad thing-it was an excellently planned and executed invasion and cunning political move which finally undermined the toxic slumber gripping Europe. Suppresses journalism? Any sensible leader does. Human rights do not exist.

On the matter of LGBT rights that is the one major area of disagreement I have with him. However it is obvious the man has no genuine quarrel with homosexuals and is only doing it as a cunning political tactic to win the conservative vote-chattel to gain time to finally do away with the farce that is Democracy.

I never said I liked or admired the man, he is just the best possible alternative to the gang of insipid, incompetent, feeble-minded hypocrites that are praised in the west today. It is truly a symptom of the utter degeneracy of our times that healthy ambition and self-interest are demonised and condemned.

[Greater Weselton]

Putin is my favorite.

…Why?

He wants to save his country from the New World Order.

[Greater Mackonia]

…Why?

They're both authoritarians and socially conservatives?

I am definitely not a social-conservative and while I am certainly anti-democratic would not call myself an authoritarian though I do not shirk so much at that comment then the second.

[Arlenton]

…Why?

He wants to save his country from the New World Order.

Oh boy...

[Calimera II]

He oversaw a reduction of poverty thanks to increased government spending,

Very true, and I absolutely think that's positive. However, we must make a difference between 'just spending money' and a 'long-term investment'. I am not sure whether it was really an investment.

I was unaware that Jose Mujica supported those leaders in Central/South America. I disagree with him on that front.

However, that does not detract from his accomplishments.

And what has he done for the people of Uruguay, exactly? He legalized pot. Statist, government-controlled pot, that is.

He oversaw a reduction of poverty thanks to increased government spending, and his government was committed to LGBT rights and a reduction of inequalities. That's not a bad legacy.

But so did Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner, and do you like her?

[MERIZoC]

…Why?

He wants to save his country from the New World Order.

…….

[Sebastianbourg]

…Why?

He wants to save his country from the New World Order.

[Herrebrugh]

Not all supporters of the American Republican Party are against same-sex marriage, you know.

His signature says that he is.

It sounded like they claimed somebody'd be opposed to same-sex marriage because they'd be Republican, so I acted on that. My mistake.

Ben van Herwijnen.

All the links are in Dutch! Is he a republican?

Ben van Herwijnen.

He sounds very Dutch.

Anyways, I'm unfamiliar with him, can you tell me about him?

I'm kidding just a bit.

He is a republican (in the non-American sense of the word), but he is just about the least inspiring and charismatic person roaming the polders. You don't need to understand the Netherlands language to hear (and see) why.

[Calimera II]

Nac&Pop is the abbreviation of ''Nacional y Popular'', a term frequently used in South American countries to refer to politicians who share the views of Lula, Kirchner, Morales, Correa, Mujica.


Oh hell yea, he is a big fan of Chavez.

Mujica on Chavez: "The motives remain but we lost the symbol" (Referring to Hugo Chavez)
Mujica talks about his deep friendship with Chavez
"Pepe" Mujica: ''Why wouldn't I miss Chavez?''
''He (Chavez) left an open space difficult to fill''

I don't think Lula and Mujica are as retarded as the other people you mentioned.

So you really think that Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner is retarded? And you really think that Correa is retarded? Why so? Why would they be 'worse' than Lula and Mujica?

[Sebastianbourg]

He is a republican (in the non-American sense of the word), but he is just about the least inspiring and charismatic person roaming the polders. You don't need to understand the Netherlands language to hear (and see) why.

Has he proclaimed himself the President of the 'Republic' of the Netherlands?

[Herrebrugh]

He is a republican (in the non-American sense of the word), but he is just about the least inspiring and charismatic person roaming the polders. You don't need to understand the Netherlands language to hear (and see) why.

Has he proclaimed himself the President of the 'Republic' of the Netherlands?

He says that he is prepared to become the first president of the Republic of Netherland through a referendum.

To roughly three hundred people.

[Sebastianbourg]

Has he proclaimed himself the President of the 'Republic' of the Netherlands?

He says that he is prepared to become the first president of the Republic of Netherland through a referendum.

To roughly three hundred people.

I frankly don't see the point of republicans in constitutional monarchies; we've got other things to worry about and that's without taking into accounts the benefits of the monarchy.

[Fortschritte]

Why do you admire a man who invaded Ukraine, suppresses journalism, abuses human rights, and is vehemently opposed to LGBT rights?

Putin is the only leader in the world today with the spine to deny the nauseatingly self-righteous moraline drivel that is 'international law' and is leading the way for a new, pragmatic, innovative, post-moral politics. The only reason he is demonised is because the so-called 'leaders' of the West are cowardly democratic sheep terrified of even a shot of ambition. He is a pragmatist and that is what I like. You say 'invaded Ukraine' like it was a bad thing-it was an excellently planned and executed invasion and cunning political move which finally undermined the toxic slumber gripping Europe. Suppresses journalism? Any sensible leader does. Human rights do not exist.

On the matter of LGBT rights that is the one major area of disagreement I have with him. However it is obvious the man has no genuine quarrel with homosexuals and is only doing it as a cunning political tactic to win the conservative vote-chattel to gain time to finally do away with the farce that is Democracy.

I never said I liked or admired the man, he is just the best possible alternative to the gang of insipid, incompetent, feeble-minded hypocrites that are praised in the west today. It is truly a symptom of the utter degeneracy of our times that healthy ambition and self-interest are demonised and condemned.

You call invading a country pragmatic? That's not pragmatic, nor is it innovative, it's reckless. It threatens the safety of the world, and kills people. How the fuck is that a positive thing? It's as if you like Putin because you have an irrational hatred of the West and a irrational love of war.

[Herrebrugh]

He says that he is prepared to become the first president of the Republic of Netherland through a referendum.

To roughly three hundred people.

I frankly don't see the point of republicans in constitutional monarchies; we've got other things to worry about and that's without taking into accounts the benefits of the monarchy.

Eh. I'm a soft republican myself, and I wouldn't mind seeing the king go, but I'll agree that it's not really a priority. And it's not really feasible either, with the support the royal house currently has.

[Fortschritte]

He oversaw a reduction of poverty thanks to increased government spending,

Very true, and I absolutely think that's positive. However, we must make a difference between 'just spending money' and a 'long-term investment'. I am not sure whether it was really an investment.

I was unaware that Jose Mujica supported those leaders in Central/South America. I disagree with him on that front.

However, that does not detract from his accomplishments.

He oversaw a reduction of poverty thanks to increased government spending, and his government was committed to LGBT rights and a reduction of inequalities. That's not a bad legacy.

But so did Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner, and do you like her?

No, because she's corrupt, and because of her numerous failed economic policies. But, Mujica hasn't been corrupt, and Uruguay has seen it's economy grow pretty rapidly under his tenure. Mujica isn't perfect, but his administration's impact on Uruguay was largely positive. I view his presidency as a success.

[Sebastianbourg]

I frankly don't see the point of republicans in constitutional monarchies; we've got other things to worry about and that's without taking into accounts the benefits of the monarchy.

Eh. I'm a soft republican myself, and I wouldn't mind seeing the king go, but I'll agree that it's not really a priority. And it's not really feasible either, with the support the royal house currently has.

I'm a monarchist but that isn't rare in this country since the majority are.