What do you think about anarchists?

[Sinuessa en Valle]

Honestly every time I hear someone say anarchy is good or a better system than anything currently being implemented what I really hear is a fourteen year old kid screaming: "I'm sick of these rules man! Down with the system! I wanna stay up until 10 and I can stay home by myself and rules are stupid man!"

I cannot take the pro-anarchist argument seriously.

[Unified Imperial States]

I understand why, we should but many leftists, myself included, don't really want to compromise our views. The biggest divide at the moment is the role of the state in a revolution. I don't think it is possible for the left to properly unite unless a lot of leftist shrug off their idea of having a socialist state or a stateless revolution.

Revolution, please.
Your revolutions have ultimately led China at best and Cuba at worst, and unfortunately I don't see any clear distinction from the two other than that China is larger and Cuba is lapsing back into the room of the same choices that China had been required to make before. Also, it seems to be having a lot of bad luck for being too chill, and being too close to the United States.

I wouldn't call China the best example of communism. Pseudo-capitalist today, and back when it actually was a true communist state, it was just as wacko as the Soviets.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

Revolution, please.
Your revolutions have ultimately led China at best and Cuba at worst, and unfortunately I don't see any clear distinction from the two other than that China is larger and Cuba is lapsing back into the room of the same choices that China had been required to make before. Also, it seems to be having a lot of bad luck for being too chill.

Oh god, please tell me about a successful anarchists revolution. Cuba's problem is not in the government itself but the Cuban embargo.

All countries and all systems have problems.

[The Liberated Territories]

Until it's collectivism towards a united human race.

And if you think being a disorganized tribal species is going to get us any closer to becoming a space-faring race that can help us spread our roots throughout the stars, then all I have to say is the following.

WAAAAGH DA ORKZ IZ DA BIGGEZT UND DA STRONGEZT

But seriously, no.

No, don't be like that. My tribalism is the tribalism of the self, and the eliminate of the concepts such as "war" and "pride".
Moderate anarchism, which posits that all individuals are about as human as each other, is at the core of civil rights. Everything else, such as civil development, dedicated to improving conditions for all individuals, follows. Without "moderate anarchy", we'll have had several Roman Empires fighting each other until the sun explodes, because weapons are the only things that are necessary to ensure glory and order.

Nature woo?

Woo, woo, woo!

I never heard of moderate anarchism before. I thought all anarchists are radicals?

[Unified Imperial States]

Oh god, please tell me about a successful anarchists revolution. Cuba's problem is not in the government itself but the Cuban embargo.

All countries and all systems have problems.

Truth. There is no exception.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

Honestly every time I hear someone say anarchy is good or a better system than anything currently being implemented what I really hear is a fourteen year old kid screaming: "I'm sick of these rules man! Down with the system! I wanna stay up until 10 and I can stay home by myself and rules are stupid man!"

I cannot take the pro-anarchist argument seriously.

Well, your attitude is really an ageist stereotype.

Ludicrous children often are just a reflex of ludicrous parents.

[Sibirsky]

Business owners and managers do not rule over all of society. This isn't double think, this is common fucking sense.

How would you get rid of private property?

How would you protect private property without a state?

Private protection services?

Have you ever been in a bank, casino or jewelry store? Have you ever seen security?

Expand on that idea.

[Servica]

It's a trap.

The fact that they rule at all makes capitalism anti-anarchist.

Cooperatives and self-employment.

Tell that yellow-assed dastard what's objective.

[Unified Imperial States]

It's a trap.

The fact that they rule at all makes capitalism anti-anarchist.

Cooperatives and self-employment.

Tell that yellow-assed dastard what's objective.

........... What?

Dafuq did I just read

[Servica]

How would you protect private property without a state?

Private protection services?

Have you ever been in a bank, casino or jewelry store? Have you ever seen security?

Expand on that idea.

Who needs jewelries? who needs casinos? How are they going to eliminate misery and suffering? What's the point of your anarchism, really?

[Sinuessa en Valle]

Honestly every time I hear someone say anarchy is good or a better system than anything currently being implemented what I really hear is a fourteen year old kid screaming: "I'm sick of these rules man! Down with the system! I wanna stay up until 10 and I can stay home by myself and rules are stupid man!"

I cannot take the pro-anarchist argument seriously.

Well, your attitude is really an ageist stereotype.

Ludicrous children often are just a reflex of ludicrous parents.

So the kid I hear as I read all the post by the anarchists are really just kids complaining about having to follow rules and systems?

[Sibirsky]

Business owners and managers do not rule over all of society. This isn't double think, this is common fucking sense.

How would you get rid of private property?

The fact that they rule at all makes capitalism anti-anarchist.

No, it doesn't. Their rule does not cover the entire nation.

Cooperatives and self-employment.

Bullshit. They still have managers and bosses. They still have a hierarchy. Except I do not claim that it is not anarchy. Because I understand what anarchy is.

[Sibirsky]

Honestly every time I hear someone say anarchy is good or a better system than anything currently being implemented what I really hear is a fourteen year old kid screaming: "I'm sick of these rules man! Down with the system! I wanna stay up until 10 and I can stay home by myself and rules are stupid man!"

I cannot take the pro-anarchist argument seriously.

Because you do not understand what the arguments are.

[Greater Weselton]

Anarchists should seek a society based on God's law.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

So the kid I hear as I read all the post by the anarchists are really just kids complaining about having to follow rules and systems?

https://www.google.com.br/search?q=what%27s+systematic+oppression&oq=what%27s+systematic+oppression&aqs=chrome..69i57.1293j0j9&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8

[Servica]

It's a trap.

Tell that yellow-assed dastard what's objective.

........... What?

Dafuq did I just read

I told you it's a trap. Maybe you should've listened?
#Empathy4TheEnemy2014

That aside, I was referencing something called "objectivism", the love-making book of capitalists and republicans alike.

[Flyover]

I don't have any particular fondness for Anarchism, but I can't say I'd hate living under it 100% of the time. I don't see the State as a morally useful End in and of itself, but I don't see a lack of State as such either. Any government -or lack thereof- that can best protect the members of that society while also respecting democratic rule and as much freedom as possible gets my support. However, I haven't seen any examples of Anarchy ever accomplishing that in a way that democratic states can't do better in the real world.

I also don't buy into the "tax-as-theft" thing, since I tend towards Social-Contractesque thinking for that kind of stuff.

[Servica]

Anarchists should seek a society based on God's law.

Get rekt skrub

[Unified Imperial States]

Anarchists should seek a society based on God's law.

Even as a Christian, my first reaction is "Troll". Anarchy opposes organised religion just as much as an organised society.

[Sibirsky]

Private protection services?

Have you ever been in a bank, casino or jewelry store? Have you ever seen security?

Expand on that idea.

Who needs jewelries? who needs casinos? How are they going to eliminate misery and suffering? What's the point of your anarchism, really?

People that like jewelry? People that like gambling? By providing jobs and profits?

A voluntary society, obviously.

What's the point of your clueless post?

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

Anarchists should seek a society based on God's law.

As a quasi-anarchist: there's no God and the Bible is an Iron Age fairy tale no self-respecting 21st century person should look for as any remotely meaningful moral or life guide whatsoeverfuck.

But I digress, also, I respect religion as long as it does respect me. The flavor that you advocate doesn't, though.

[Sibirsky]

Anarchists should seek a society based on God's law.

What about atheist anarchists?

[Aixa]

[Unified Imperial States]

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[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

:rofl:

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