How do we reduce obesity?

[The Serbian Empire]

I believe the public transit was killed back in the 1940s when the oil companies and car makers colluded with each other. The US has suffered this ever since.

Or, perhaps, it has to do with the absolutely massive size of the US. Texas, alone, is larger than the entirety of France.

How precisely do you plan on "stopping suburban expansion"? There isn't enough housing in cities to allow for the number of people, whom number much vaster than the urban population, to settle down in the same area. Crime and poverty would skyrocket, as would unemployment, as you devastate a lot of the small town.

Cars are an inevitability for the US, considering its geographic size.

I would point out Russia as the example as how cars can be prevented.

[Estva]

Or, perhaps, it has to do with the absolutely massive size of the US. Texas, alone, is larger than the entirety of France.

How precisely do you plan on "stopping suburban expansion"? There isn't enough housing in cities to allow for the number of people, whom number much vaster than the urban population, to settle down in the same area. Crime and poverty would skyrocket, as would unemployment, as you devastate a lot of the small town.

Cars are an inevitability for the US, considering its geographic size.

I would point out Russia as the example as how cars can be prevented.

Russia isn't a comparable example. Much of its infrastructure was gained from the demographic shifts forced by Stalin that mandated urbanization. This was then continued by the Soviet state, as its poor consumer market meant they had to provide public transport.

Do you really want that kind of urbanization, when it is not needed?

[Atlanticatia]

I believe the public transit was killed back in the 1940s when the oil companies and car makers colluded with each other. The US has suffered this ever since.

Or, perhaps, it has to do with the absolutely massive size of the US. Texas, alone, is larger than the entirety of France.

How precisely do you plan on "stopping suburban expansion"? There isn't enough housing in cities to allow for the number of people, whom number much vaster than the urban population, to settle down in the same area. Crime and poverty would skyrocket, as would unemployment, as you devastate a lot of the small town.

Cars are an inevitability for the US, considering its geographic size.

Well, it's not necessarily suburbs that are the problem, but that suburbs are sprawling. There's no reason why we can't shop in walkable town centers instead of strip malls, why we need urban sprawl housing, etc.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

We reduce obesity by banning genetic and chemical food.

Do you have a (credible, as in not whale.to) source to back up your claim that obesity is caused by genetically modified food? (I assume that's what you're referring to when you say "genetic and chemical" food)

Well, HFCS is worse for you than refined sugar. But I know he's not talking about that.

[Estva]

Or, perhaps, it has to do with the absolutely massive size of the US. Texas, alone, is larger than the entirety of France.

How precisely do you plan on "stopping suburban expansion"? There isn't enough housing in cities to allow for the number of people, whom number much vaster than the urban population, to settle down in the same area. Crime and poverty would skyrocket, as would unemployment, as you devastate a lot of the small town.

Cars are an inevitability for the US, considering its geographic size.

Well, it's not necessarily suburbs that are the problem, but that suburbs are sprawling. There's no reason why we can't shop in walkable town centers instead of strip malls, why we need urban sprawl housing, etc.

I have no doubt some of the suburbs could stand with downsizing, but I don't see a solution which will really fix the problem rather than slightly mitigate it.

[The Serbian Empire]

Well, it's not necessarily suburbs that are the problem, but that suburbs are sprawling. There's no reason why we can't shop in walkable town centers instead of strip malls, why we need urban sprawl housing, etc.

I have no doubt some of the suburbs could stand with downsizing, but I don't see a solution which will really fix the problem rather than slightly mitigate it.

Zoning laws... it's how to stop sprawl expansion.

[Imperializt Russia]

In England, it costs me best part of £5 to buy a large McDonalds meal (I prefer the quarter-pounder with cheese, myself).

For less money, I can buy some highly nutritious Quorn Chicken-style pieces (low in fat, high in protein, also significantly cheaper than real meat), a bag of stir-fry vegetables, a bag of beansprouts, a bag of egg noodles and more than one back of sauce. All premade, brand-name (apart from the veg, weirdly own-brand veg is pretty good) ingredients, cooked in a pan for all of twenty minutes with all the prep done for me by a corporation.
Personally, I throw in a half of an 80p bell pepper too. Bell peppers are awesome. The beansprouts are superfluous too - almost all stir-fry veg packs will include beansprouts. But hey, it adds bulk.

That can serve four people.
McDonald's is literally four times as expensive.

I don't think the difference is as extreme in the US, but cooking from scratch is cheaper here too. I live in one of the most expensive states in the whole country, and I still have no clue where the "healthy food is expensive" crowd gets their produce prices. Frozen corn is $1 for a 1lb bag. I don't know about corn on the cob because I haven't bought it for about 3 or 4 years.

I buy at name-brand stores, I could easily save more money by going to off-brand stores, budget stores or work out where Costco is in Liverpool (and source a card).

[Sheltopolis]

Anytime you start a sentence with "should the government intervene", I am going to stop you right there because the answer is almost always no, no they fucking shouldn't.

[Utceforp]

Anytime you start a sentence with "should the government intervene", I am going to stop you right there because the answer is almost always no, no they fucking shouldn't.

How else will the issue be solved? It's not going to go away on its own.

[Southern Hampshire]

For the UK (public healthcare)
We deny them healthcare if they are above a certain BMI. They can go private or pass away. That is guaranteed to pull people who aren't obese yet away from obesity. Save some costs, too.

Sure, if you're okay with denying people human rights.

Yeah I'm fine with that - where do I vote??

[Imperializt Russia]

Anytime you start a sentence with "should the government intervene", I am going to stop you right there because the answer is almost always no, no they fucking shouldn't.

The "free market" sure as shit isn't going to fix it, and grassroots parenting can't, if the "free market" is allowed to do what it does.

[Trevor Phillip Enterprises]

Anytime you start a sentence with "should the government intervene", I am going to stop you right there because the answer is almost always no, no they fucking shouldn't.

And your solution to this problem?

[WestRedMaple]

Eat better, be active.

[Patridam]

I think that reducing obesity would be great, but it's not really something that the government should be intervening in besides improving school meal programs (which, even after recent reform are perhaps worse than ever). I figure someone on here's posted data regarding it, but I wouldn't be surprised if obesity levels are at least stagnant if not decreasing. I do recall hearing that soda sales have been decreasing and that soda companies (especially Coke, lacking the diversification Pepsi has) are having more and more difficulty in the US.

Anytime you start a sentence with "should the government intervene", I am going to stop you right there because the answer is almost always no, no they fucking shouldn't.

And your solution to this problem?

People's weight is their own problem, not the business of the government. Perhaps decreases in their health insurance subsidies if they are obese, because that directly impacts government. Otherwise they shouldn't really step too much into what people choose to eat other than school food and making sure food is safe to eat (FDA).

[Farnhamia]

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