how is this an example of corruption? How does democracy prevent ruinous government action?
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by Distruzio » Fri Nov 28, 2014 2:03 pm
by Seleucas » Fri Nov 28, 2014 2:14 pm
by Sebastianbourg » Fri Nov 28, 2014 4:32 pm
by Old Tyrannia » Fri Nov 28, 2014 4:34 pm
by Sebastianbourg » Fri Nov 28, 2014 4:34 pm
Distruzio wrote:It is, aside from anarchy, the most moral form of government.
by Sebastianbourg » Fri Nov 28, 2014 4:36 pm
by Old Tyrannia » Fri Nov 28, 2014 4:49 pm
Sebastianbourg wrote:Old Tyrannia wrote:Of course they don't, they didn't even know what "republicanism" was early in the thread. And they misspelt "fascism."
Old Tyrannia, what's your view on this system I've recently discovered?
by Sebastianbourg » Fri Nov 28, 2014 4:52 pm
Old Tyrannia wrote:Sebastianbourg wrote:Old Tyrannia, what's your view on this system I've recently discovered?
I've often said that I consider the model of executive constitutional monarchy to be closer to the ideals of classical republicanism as "mixed government" than the modern democratic republic. That the best form of government is mixed government is a mantra that goes all the way back to ancient Greece. However, I object to the idea that the Florentine Republic was necessarily a superior form of government to the monarchy of Milan.
by Old Tyrannia » Fri Nov 28, 2014 5:08 pm
Genivaria wrote:For the same reason people like the idea of dictatorships.
They think it will be amazing and glorious because they buy into the propaganda from games and movies.
by Forsher » Fri Nov 28, 2014 5:16 pm
Genivaria wrote:For the same reason people like the idea of dictatorships.
They think it will be amazing and glorious because they buy into the propaganda from games and movies.
by Sebastianbourg » Fri Nov 28, 2014 5:19 pm
Forsher wrote:Old Tyrannia wrote:Of course they don't, they didn't even know what "republicanism" was early in the thread. And they misspelt "fascism."
Maybe they meant facism.
The Queen isa facist leader. Her tyrannical regime is based on the idea that people just can't bring themselves to throw darts at a picture of her face. She bred Princes Philip and Charles to take the darts for her pictures.
John Key is also a facist leader. His entire political career is based on his ability for people not to associate his face with corruption or other negative traits. This is why in his business life he was known as the smiling assassin. He also uses his face to stand in for policies.
by The Austrians and Slovenes » Fri Nov 28, 2014 9:53 pm
Sebastianbourg wrote:Old Tyrannia wrote:I've often said that I consider the model of executive constitutional monarchy to be closer to the ideals of classical republicanism as "mixed government" than the modern democratic republic. That the best form of government is mixed government is a mantra that goes all the way back to ancient Greece. However, I object to the idea that the Florentine Republic was necessarily a superior form of government to the monarchy of Milan.
I found this ideal of mixed government/classical republicanism (civic humanism doesn't seem right to me) in the second edition of Sir Bernard Crick's translation of Machiavelli's Discourses and have followed it ever since. I agree with you on the question of whether the Florentine Republic's government was superior to Milan's.
by The Liberated Territories » Fri Nov 28, 2014 9:59 pm
by Vazdaria » Fri Nov 28, 2014 10:00 pm
The Austrians and Slovenes wrote:I've been a lurker on this forum for a while and somehow I've managed to resit the urge to register and post. I've noticed there's a large number of monarchists (along with people with other eccentric political opinions).
When one looks-up 'benefits of monarchy' on Google one will be surprised at how many websites seem to have articles dedicated to this relatively-obscure subject. They all tell us the same thing; monarchies unite the people with the personification of the nation (the monarch) which is independent of politics and may cost less than ceremonial presidencies while serving as permanent (or long-term) ambassadors of the country and its people. Generally, I tend to sympathise with monarchies just because of possibly-anachronistic sentimentalism (and not because of the reasons presented above) but I'd like to know what the monarchist members and denizens of NSG have to say on why they support the aforementioned system of government.
I know there is no thread ownership in the NSG but I wouldn't like this thread to simply criticize or praise monarchies blindly; I want to know why NSG's monarchist are in fact monarchists. The arguments for a republic are quite repetitive and obvious so unless you've got an argument for a republic which you think will be unknown to the majority I'd recommend you don't post.
by The Austrians and Slovenes » Fri Nov 28, 2014 10:01 pm
The Liberated Territories wrote:Long live the republic, biotches.
by Sebastianbourg » Fri Nov 28, 2014 10:01 pm
Vazdaria wrote:The Austrians and Slovenes wrote:I've been a lurker on this forum for a while and somehow I've managed to resit the urge to register and post. I've noticed there's a large number of monarchists (along with people with other eccentric political opinions).
When one looks-up 'benefits of monarchy' on Google one will be surprised at how many websites seem to have articles dedicated to this relatively-obscure subject. They all tell us the same thing; monarchies unite the people with the personification of the nation (the monarch) which is independent of politics and may cost less than ceremonial presidencies while serving as permanent (or long-term) ambassadors of the country and its people. Generally, I tend to sympathise with monarchies just because of possibly-anachronistic sentimentalism (and not because of the reasons presented above) but I'd like to know what the monarchist members and denizens of NSG have to say on why they support the aforementioned system of government.
I know there is no thread ownership in the NSG but I wouldn't like this thread to simply criticize or praise monarchies blindly; I want to know why NSG's monarchist are in fact monarchists. The arguments for a republic are quite repetitive and obvious so unless you've got an argument for a republic which you think will be unknown to the majority I'd recommend you don't post.
I am a monarchist for a variety of reasons, its primary because I don't believe the executive should be subject to political sway, as republics do. I'm also non-egalitarian, I don't believe everyone is equal. Finally, monarchies are just cool
by The Liberated Territories » Fri Nov 28, 2014 10:02 pm
by Vazdaria » Fri Nov 28, 2014 10:02 pm
Sebastianbourg wrote:Vazdaria wrote:I am a monarchist for a variety of reasons, its primary because I don't believe the executive should be subject to political sway, as republics do. I'm also non-egalitarian, I don't believe everyone is equal. Finally, monarchies are just cool
It is a reality many refuse to recognise.
by Sebastianbourg » Fri Nov 28, 2014 10:03 pm
The Liberated Territories wrote:The Austrians and Slovenes wrote:God Save the Emperor/Tsar//King/Queen/Prince/Princess/Grand Duke/Grand Duchess.
That's a lot of fancy titles that essentially amounts to "dictator."
Why don't you slap on some separation of powers and a constitution on that bad boy and then we can start talkin.'
by The Liberated Territories » Fri Nov 28, 2014 10:04 pm
by Sebastianbourg » Fri Nov 28, 2014 10:07 pm
The Liberated Territories wrote:Vazdaria wrote:Its an apparent reality. Everyone is unequality. LONG LIVE INEQUALITY!
Equality is good if it's equality under the law. This way we can assure that no one minority (or majority) transpose their values onto society and the true merits of the individual can shine.
by Snowfall the Unicorn » Fri Nov 28, 2014 10:07 pm
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